Charles4515

That is not something that requires iOS 17. I have had apps that I make purchases in that saved credit cards and default payment or Apple Pay info for years.

I agree that is probably requirements creep. Also I don’t see why the guest wallet feature would require iOS 17 or could not be modified to work with iOS 15 and iOS 16 but maybe it makes the phone work with tap to pay or open doors?

If they don’t have their apps on automatic update, most people do, then it might keep working, for a bit. Eventually it won’t work because what they are really saying when they require iOS 17 is they don’t test their update on earlier versions. As you have noted they most likely outsource the app so they don’t likely don’t want to spend money to pay engineers to support old software or hardware.

I have read that 70% of iPhone users have updated to iOS 17 but that is still a lot being left out. What is really problematic is making a new version that only works on iOS 17. I bunch of apps I use have been updated many times yet would still work on iOS 13 according to their developer notes.

I overlooked that they might have a Canadian BC but just because they have a Canadian passport does not preclude them having a US BC. Or other documents. This all sounds complicated but it should not be since they have a valid US passport. Bermuda does not require 6 months if coming on a cruise and the US has no requirement at all except a valid passport. I personally have used a passport on a Caribbean cruise that had less than six months on it about six years ago because I had a combination of cruises and land trips so I didn’t have a six months window. No one batted an eye or said anything about the expire date.

I don't think a Canadian BC would work. The BC is to prove US citizenship.

Vintage means it can’t get replacement parts. Hardware can’t be repaired. The iPhone 8 Plus can be repaired. Software support has different dates. While it can’t get iOS 17 it still gets some software support. Celebrity has decided not to support earlier than iOS 17. But they could. What was in their last update that requires an iOS 17 feature? According to their release note for the version released a week ago Celebrity added a guest wallet to manage payment methods. It does sound like a major feature addition to their app. I don’t know why that would require iOS 17 but I am not an Apple developer so perhaps it does.

Just so people don’t get confused if they have a iPhone SE there are 3 generations of iPhone SE. 2016, 2020 and 2022. iOS 17 will run on the iPhone 2020 and the iPhone phone 2022. So Celebrity is only not supporting their app on the 1st gen iPhone SE 2016 an 8 year old phone.

If I might make a suggestion for everyone. When going on a cruise I have made it a habit to go to settings and under App Store toggle off App Updates because that was something I didn’t want to happen on very slow internet or without warning when away from home.

You have more faith in Celebrity than I do. I think they don’t have a clue. That’s why they did it. I think it would be a simple fix. Probably a word or two of code.

So true. The iPhone OS upgrades the last 4, 5 or 6 years have been incremental. The next os upgrade though is looking to be huge. I bet though it will still be recognizable and easy to pick up on the changes.

Would be kind of stupid of them to deny boarding when you can use a birth certificate to deny boarding with a valid passport. The RCL call center people are brain dead. I don’t the check in people at the dock are brain dead, I don’t think they would deny boarding but bringing the Birth Certificate will give you peace of mind.

App developers for smartphones put that info on their web sites but they don't send out notifications. You might get a notification when you open the app if the devolpoper still exists. As I mentioned in a couple of posts Celebrity could have continued to update thier app to updated versions that would still run on your phone. I have apps that support iOS 13 and maybe earlier, I only checked a few apps. Apparently they did not want to pay their developer to do that.

You use the Celebrity app. Celebrity killed their app on your phone. I have apps that run will lon iOS 13 and are still updated. FaceBook for example. While your phone hardware is obsolete Celebrity decided to make their app obsolete.

Apple still supports older versions of iOS 17 for security uodates and bug fixes. Celebrity has decided not to support older versions than iOS 17. I have plenty of apps that are years old and still run fine. iOS 17 did add features but 14, 15, 16, are not that different.