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I think the real point is that Princess market and CCL market are not the same, experience or cost.

I do not see anybody defending anything, just stating facts. Comparing land resorts and their wifi capability, costs etc to cruises is an apple to orangutan analogy. The cost for a resort to get and offer broadband wifi compared to Starlink costs for cruises is just different. To equivocate wifi costs on land to see is just silly. I get that you think you want it, but expecting EVERYONE to bear the cost for your want, just seems over the top, but agree on the last line. If not having it for free makes you go land, then I guess you made your choice.

LOL same here, my heavy drinking days are behind me and was never a heavyweight (drinker….)😅

To some, all of this is important. To me….meh. We cruised on Celebrity Aqua class and had included drink package. To be honest, not really a big deal and certainly recognized that the price difference made it that way. Others may have a different view.

Guess what. If you want it you will pay.

Because some things are included in base fare and some are not.. It is not up to us to decide what is included in base fare and what is not. Internet is not. Does not matter if you use a pool, it is included. Does not matter if you think hot tubs, they are included. Same for the rest. Has absolutely nothing to do with you putting a word like luxury on it. Still makes no sense.

SI think you just proved the post you quoted point. If it is a necessity for you (might be close to such for me) than you (or I) can purchase it. For those who less inclined, they can say no thanks. Hvaning everybody pay for it makes no sense.

Thanks for sharing your review. Looks like you had a great cruise.

Long ago in a past life (business life that is) I attended a data security conference. One of the key speakers was a guy names Ed Amaruso (I think) who was the chief security officer for ATT. In a key note speaker h he talked to the plan (never happened) where the internet was two distinct levels, one for everyone and one much more structured and secure. There are was of addressing security now which is really a hybrid of his plan but his offered lots more. We are where we are.

As always, your expertise is appreciated.

My point is that those things I mentioned are things they have to pay for in addition to everything they have ever provided (things like you mentioned). They have to pay for starlink. A lot. Internet is DEF not a necessity, it is a luxury. To ask to have them raise fares for all so that the few are not burdened (and in fact openly state they do not want it) is fool hardy at best.

And you totally missed the point

Sorry I was not more clear. I was really looking for something on cruise line (or any sea farer vessels) responsibilities when finding adrift crafts at sea.

Is the internet they offer under these programs free to them? NO. Will it ever be free to their customers? NO. Should it be? NO

I have a hard time thinking that it is equal. Cruisers pay list fare for their cruisers and what their loyalty program attainment is baed in that. Casino programs highly discount (according to some, they are free) rooms and this counts exactly the same. Apples and elephants.