sppunk Posted July 12, 2016 #1 Share Posted July 12, 2016 [/url]Holland America Line celebrated a significant construction milestone Friday as the first steel was cut for ms Nieuw Statendam, due for delivery in November 2018. The ceremony took place at Fincantieri’s shipyard in Palermo, Sicily, Italy, and the block being built there will later be moved to the Marghera yard where the ship will be constructed. Holland America Group’s Executive Vice President of Fleet Operations Keith Taylor was at the yard for the event. http://www.hollandamericablog.com/2016/07/12/and-so-it-begins-first-steel-cut-for-holland-america-lines-new-ms-nieuw-statendam/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Vict0riann Posted July 12, 2016 #2 Share Posted July 12, 2016 That's exciting! I'm glad there will be a Nieuw Statendam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sppunk Posted July 12, 2016 Author #3 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Rumor has it HAL actually has much more involvement in this newbuild whereas Koningsdam was essentially Carnival Corp. led from start to finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted July 12, 2016 #4 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Sounds wonderful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted July 12, 2016 #5 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Thanks for the heads up Mr. Spunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted July 12, 2016 #6 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Another big ship. :(:(:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ski ww Posted July 12, 2016 #7 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Should be interesting to watch her grow & come together as they. Wonder if some of the changes suggested by posters on CC will be carried out. Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheWASide Posted July 12, 2016 #8 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Should be interesting to watch her grow & come together as they. Wonder if some of the changes suggested by posters on CC will be carried out.Allan Not likely that the entire structure would be changed to modify the promenade. You're talking changes to decks, tons of public rooms, lifeboat placement, etc. Explorations Cafe - possibly. It would simply rework the space. I think having travel books, atlases and resources for the places the ship is going is plenty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkacruiser Posted July 12, 2016 #9 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Rumor has it HAL actually has much more involvement in this newbuild whereas Koningsdam was essentially Carnival Corp. led from start to finish. Thanks for sharing that rumor. I find that interesting inasmuch as I have never really understood what role the Carnival Shipbuilding division plays in the Company. When I disembarked from the Statendam in Singapore, I saw men wearing polo shirts with "Carnival Corporation" printed on the shirts embarking and assumed they "might" be with Carnival Shipbuilding, involved with the transition of the ship from Statendam to Pacific Eden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sppunk Posted July 12, 2016 Author #10 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Thanks for sharing that rumor. I find that interesting inasmuch as I have never really understood what role the Carnival Shipbuilding division plays in the Company. When I disembarked from the Statendam in Singapore, I saw men wearing polo shirts with "Carnival Corporation" printed on the shirts embarking and assumed they "might" be with Carnival Shipbuilding, involved with the transition of the ship from Statendam to Pacific Eden. They control the entire newbuild process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkacruiser Posted July 12, 2016 #11 Share Posted July 12, 2016 They control the entire newbuild process. Thank you for your response to my post. So, if I am correct in understanding what you have said, Carnival Shipbuilding is responsible for the physical construction of the ship. But, they are not responsible for the interior passenger area design of the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sppunk Posted July 13, 2016 Author #12 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Thank you for your response to my post. So, if I am correct in understanding what you have said, Carnival Shipbuilding is responsible for the physical construction of the ship. But, they are not responsible for the interior passenger area design of the ship. They from what I understand actually are. They hire designers to match the specific line metrics but have a pretty heavy hand in things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkacruiser Posted July 13, 2016 #13 Share Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) They control the entire newbuild process. Tagging on to my prior post, there was much ado about HAL engaging a noted marine architict to assist in the design of the Koningsdam's interiors. (Photos of the MDR of the Kongingsdam remind me much of what I saw on Celebrity Eclipse.) So, with regard to the rumors of HAL being "more involved" in the planning for the M. S. Nieuw Statendam, place me in the skeptical column. Why were they not originally involved in the Koningsdam's interior design? And, if they were not, who was? As the fleet grows older and ships are retired, the "short cruise designed vessels" are likely to become ships that travel longer cruises, i.e. the change in some of the itineraries for the Nieuw Amsterdam in late 2016-and early 2017: 10, 12 day cruises.) Maybe I am mistaken, but this will happen to the Pinnacle Class ships as well. So, HAL, outfit them for the type of service that they will likely experience throughout their career. I am one who does believe that HAL listens to their guests and does respond, as they can, appropriately. A proper library as part of the Explorations Cafe is required. I hope someone in Seattle is understanding what is being said. Edited July 13, 2016 by rkacruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestyling Posted July 13, 2016 #14 Share Posted July 13, 2016 I agree with RKAcruiser. Hoping that a larger quite sitting area in library is obtained. I haven't sailed on her yet but will be soon. I'll keep an open mind until I experience it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic The Parrot Posted July 13, 2016 #15 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Another big ship. :(:(:( Yep And one with another inappropriate, made-up name. :rolleyes: :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Gail & Marty sailing away Posted July 13, 2016 #16 Share Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) It will be here soon. I hope Holland will continue offering long cruises. Edited July 13, 2016 by we're sailing away.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthC Posted July 13, 2016 #17 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Yep And one with another inappropriate, made-up name. :rolleyes: :( Yep. Makes a statement, doesn't it. Hi, Vic. Long time/no see. Nice to have you around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Alphen Posted July 13, 2016 #18 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Yep And one with another inappropriate, made-up name. :rolleyes: :( Of the current and or recent ships, only (Nieuw) Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Zaandam, Veendam, Volendam and Maasdam are not made up names and named after actual city's. All of the others, although some with long(er) history, are and have been made up names, including Prinsendam and also the ones that have recently left the fleet (Ryndam and Statendam). If the recent choice of name(s) are to everybody’s liking, is quite personal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrooveInWhichWeMove Posted July 13, 2016 #19 Share Posted July 13, 2016 I would have liked to name the new ship the MS Edam, but others thought it was too cheesy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted July 13, 2016 #20 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Of the current and or recent ships, only (Nieuw) Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Zaandam, Veendam, Volendam and Maasdam are not made up names and named after actual city's. All of the others, although some with long(er) history, are and have been made up names, including Prinsendam and also the ones that have recently left the fleet (Ryndam and Statendam). If the recent choice of name(s) are to everybody’s liking, is quite personal. I still would have preferred Spaarndam or just plain Statendam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlsSalt Posted July 13, 2016 #21 Share Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) The ominous message to me is HAL is leaving Oud HAL behind and wants the public to know the Oud HAL is no more. :(:(:( Our last cruise on the Vista class Zuiderdam, while fine on all counts lacked the "soul" of our prior smaller ship HAL ship cruises. It was functional and utilitarian, but it was not a grand cruising experience. It was a trip to interesting ports, a wonderful cabin, a variety of onboard options but the scale of the ship and the numbers, even at this relatively small size ship in the fleet, lacked that sense of day to day intimacy once finds on the smaller ships. Perhaps the combo of two 12 cruises added to that as well as most of our prior small HAL ship cruises have been a lot longer. Edited July 13, 2016 by OlsSalt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare TiogaCruiser Posted July 13, 2016 #22 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Of the current and or recent ships, only (Nieuw) Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Zaandam, Veendam, Volendam and Maasdam are not made up names and named after actual city's. All of the others, although some with long(er) history, are and have been made up names, including Prinsendam and also the ones that have recently left the fleet (Ryndam and Statendam). If the recent choice of name(s) are to everybody’s liking, is quite personal. So what was the origin of the names Prinsendam, Ryndam and Statendam then? Are they simply catchy vocables? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Alphen Posted July 13, 2016 #23 Share Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) So what was the origin of the names Prinsendam, Ryndam and Statendam then?Are they simply catchy vocables? No, not catchy vocables and not imaginary. As opposed to the other names, Vista class represent the four wind directions, both Prinsendam and Koningsdam refer to royalty (prince and king), Ryndam refers to a dam in the river Rhine, just spelled differently, since the river Rhine is spelled “Rijn” in Dutch, but also the river Rhine does not have a dam in it (not in Holland anyway), just a lot of dikes. The use of a Y instead of IJ is the way this letter is used internationally in ship names. Statendam is a reference to states as in United States or in old times the states in Holland, which Holland used to consist of. Eurodam is a reference to Europe, all the other names are actual city’s in Holland, with the exception of Nieuw Amsterdam, which is the original name that New York was known as. Edited July 13, 2016 by Alphen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare rafinmd Posted July 13, 2016 #24 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Yep And one with another inappropriate, made-up name. :rolleyes: :( Of the current and or recent ships, only (Nieuw) Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Zaandam, Veendam, Volendam and Maasdam are not made up names and named after actual city's. All of the others, although some with long(er) history, are and have been made up names, including Prinsendam and also the ones that have recently left the fleet (Ryndam and Statendam). If the recent choice of name(s) are to everybody’s liking, is quite personal. I'm not sure quite what makes it inappropriate. Names that are not cities have been in the HAL fleet for MANY years (thanks Wikipedia): Princendam (Prince's ship) from 1973 Westerdam from 1945 Ryndam from at least 1951 and Statendam from 1898 The only name I really don't like is Eurodam but liking names is a personal choice. I do though take issue with calling it inappropriate. Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted July 13, 2016 #25 Share Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) Current HAL ship names and meanings: Prinsendam - based on the princes of the House of Orange-Nassau, the royal house of the Netherlands Maasdam - city in province of Zuid Holland Veendam - city in province of Groningen Rotterdam - city in province of Zuid Holland Amsterdam - city in province of Noord Holland Volendam - city in province of Noord Holland Zaandam - city in province of Noord Holland Zuiderdam - compass heading south Oosterdam - compass heading east Westerdam - compass heading west Noordam - compass heading north Eurodam - based on HAL's origin in Europe Nieuw Amsterdam - based on the 17th-century Dutch settlement that became the current New York City Koningsdam - based on the king, in this case the King of the Netherlands Nieuw Statendam - based on the original seven Dutch provinces or "provinciale staten" (provincial states in Dutch - "Nieuw" = New in Dutch) Edited July 13, 2016 by Copper10-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now