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Sad to say that a passsenger died on oboard due to a virus. Sad to say that there were two different viruses that attacked passengers and crew. First was a deadly flu with high fever and cough. Did the Horizon Court have attendents in place to serve passengers at the first virus of course not. Then the Noro virus hit. I saw numerous ambulances at various Hawaii ports of call. Too bad Princess didnt up their game with the first virus.:confused:

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Sorry to hear that. How do you know someone died of the flu? Curious how that was verified.

 

Pam , the announcement was made on our Canadian TV network Gobal. I just disemarked this am and was thankful to leave. Both my wife and I received round one of the influenza virus. That was very nasty and I was not allowed out of my room for 48 hours. In my opinion, Princess needed to be more proactive at the outset. If it was there, it was not evident.

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Pam , the announcement was made on our Canadian TV network Gobal. I just disemarked this am and was thankful to leave. Both my wife and I received round one of the influenza virus. That was very nasty and I was not allowed out of my room for 48 hours. In my opinion, Princess needed to be more proactive at the outset. If it was there, it was not evident.

 

I didn't know Princess has a crystal ball... what was the staff supposed to do? Inoculate each passenger on every cruise? Passengers are the ones who bring viruses onboard. Should Princess have a special detector for sick embarking passengers?

 

Do you have any suggestions as to how Princess could have done better?

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I think that any TV announcement may have jumped the gun - Global, CBC and many other media are covering the story with updates within the last few minutes to few hours and none mention even a single death. Varying numbers of Noro cases from low 60s to high 70s, well below CDC threshold, in the stories - if there was anyone actually dead I'm sure the media would be leading with that instead of 'cruise ship delayed a few hours' as the current headlines read...

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We have just finished watching a news update here in Vancouver and there was no mention of a death. As of this moment we are watching the Star head for the Strait of Juan de Fuca with the golden sunset reflecting off her sides.

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We were on this cruise and never heard anything like that. Yes, we were notified about influenza and noro. Yes, the crew was taking safety precautions. Sadly, some ill passengers were too selfish to confine themselves to quarters, because every time we walked around the ship, we heard and saw passengers coughing and even loudly telling others how sick they were or how badly they felt. It is not a problem with the the crew every time there is sickness onboard a crew ship.

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Sad to say that a passsenger died on oboard due to a virus. Sad to say that there were two different viruses that attacked passengers and crew. First was a deadly flu with high fever and cough. Did the Horizon Court have attendants in place to serve passengers at the first virus of course not.

 

Flu virus is spread through the air. A person with it who coughs or sneezes anywhere on the ship is spreading the germs. Attendants serving food would not prevent the spread of a flu virus.

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I was reading a passenger's account on another site and they said that they were sick for a couple of days before calling the Medical Center. They then complained that Princess didn't respond quickly enough with precautions. Unfortunately, many people self-medicate and continue to board tour buses, go to shows, go to the buffet and/or dining room, etc. Yes, the ship has a responsibility but so do the passengers. Just look at all the people who don't wash their hands before entering the buffet and think that using the "sanitizer" will protect them.

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We were on this cruise as well. We had a great time. We did not see anyone ill and heard about the virus situation first via a note sent to all staterooms regarding flu and noro. Then Princess implemented their serious virus containment procedures and from that point on they served you in the Horizon Court and there there was no touching of anything that was not exclusively for your own use. No salt and pepper shakers, or sugar on any tables, no serve yourself condiments at the grill etc. They were constantly wiping down the slot machines in the casino.

 

We are in our late 40s but I would suggest the average age on this ship was close to 70 so age could have been a factor on how many people were impacted and how severely.

 

Even before the heightened procedures the staff were always asking us to wash our hands before even entering any restaurant spaces. We regularly saw people ignore them and wondered what the big deal of washing your hands was.

 

It was also a 15 day cruise so that many people in a single space for that long, with 5 sea days front and back certainly would contribute to the impact.

 

It was certainly not a hospital ship cruise, the public spaces were always full of people and activity right up to the last night.

 

Even at disembarkation this morning I never saw one person who appeared the least bit ill, not one sneeze. I am not discounting the impact on those who did get sick but it was a small number over all.

 

We saw several ambulances take people to hospital on Kauai but did not hear of any deaths and of course do not know the medical reasons. Crew indicated given the length of the cruise, the average age of the passengers, that a few medical issue were normal and expected.

 

Paul

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My sister and her two friends just got off this cruise. On day two, one of them approached management and suggested more sanitizer stations as she had noticed so many people sick, coughing ect. The reply was "its not our policy".. well, my sister and one of her friends ended up in there room for 7 days of the last 8 cruise days sick and i will spare you the details..... There were 28 people taken off the ship at the port in hawaii.... that is a lot of ambulances and sick passengers..... I feel so bad for all who got ill, and missed beautiful ports and excursions.... my sister finally is home and hope she is better soon...

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My sister and her two friends just got off this cruise. On day two, one of them approached management and suggested more sanitizer stations as she had noticed so many people sick, coughing ect. The reply was "its not our policy".. well, my sister and one of her friends ended up in there room for 7 days of the last 8 cruise days sick and i will spare you the details..... There were 28 people taken off the ship at the port in hawaii.... that is a lot of ambulances and sick passengers..... I feel so bad for all who got ill, and missed beautiful ports and excursions.... my sister finally is home and hope she is better soon...

 

We were on that sailing and we have not seen so many sanitizer stations around the ship. There was one at the entrance to every food based location, including the line to the grill and pizza station. The casino had one at every entrance. And this was from day 1. My wife an I even remarked on our first few days about the ship that we had not seen so many sanitizer stations on a ship, it seems there was one every 50 feet.

 

Did we see a lot of people using them, nope. We certainly did.

 

Paul

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I think one of the worst places on the ship is the elevators, which is why we stay off of them unless we are going many floors up. Other than that, we use the stairs. The air in elevators is usually warm, they are packed tight and when people cough I can almost see the germs flying...ugh!

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Hi. We were on the Star from August 29-September 5, following a 8 day tour in Alaska. For the land portion, we were a group of 36. By the end of the land tour, there were many people sick and coughing terribly (no fever though) The lodges were absolutely packed with people. Throughout our cruise there were many people coughing. My husband had it most of the trip. I got it two weeks after we got back, and still haven't stopped coughing. I was not surprised that the Star is going through a deep cleaning process. Probably the lodges should do the same!

 

I have gotten this cough, which I assume is not a flu, several times, and sure would like to try to avoid it. We wash hands often, take vitamins, and take plenty cold medicine with us. We are going to follow other advice, such as avoiding elevators and handrails, to see if it helps. Does anyone have any other ideas not already mentioned as preventative?

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We left the Star yesterday morning. DH and I both contracted the flu on the cruise. We are both very healthy and I have never had the flu before. We went to the medical center the morning we got go Honolulu, were diagnosed and got meds. The nurses we saw (at the center and the "house" calls) were great. The rest of the staff worked tirelessly. Once released, I was amazed at the amount of inconsiderate passengers we saw out and about. Maybe we were just on high alert, but I have never seen and heard so many hackers in my life - in all venues. I know nobody wants to miss any of their vacation time, but this stuff can be life threatening to some others. Oh, and to those wearing the masks in the Piazza, , I'm not a medical professional, but I don't think it is helpful if you don't have it over both your mouth and nose ;)

 

As a side note, we tried to get flu shots before we left home, but our doc said it was too early in the season. We didn't think to tell him we were going to be on a ship with a few thousand Canadians whose flu season is earlier than ours. Lesson learned by us!

 

Safe travels to all.

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We were on the Star at the beginning of August and contracted the flu on the last day of our cruise. There were sick people all over the place. They went back and forth with the silverware and salt/pepper. They also took away the cream pitcher at the IC and put it back out a few hours later. The captain made a number of announcements about flu and even offered for the Dr to come to your cabin. I've been watching postings since then and every cruise on the Star since ours they have had flu issues yet no deep cleaning until now that there is also noro. They could at least warn people to get flu shots before boarding. We couldn't because they weren't out then but if people were warned a few weeks out at this point in the year they could. I believe they said it was influenza A.

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Oh....so sorry for all those passengers that had to spend their precious vacation time being sick. We are taking my nephews on their first cruise ever on the Star early next month. Sure hope it is all spic and span by then. I would feel so horrible if they got sick on their first ever cruise.

 

We were on the Golden several years ago and did the 14 night Hawaii itinerary from LA - and we were delayed boarding because the cruise before us was a noro cruise. Well, it hit our 14 night cruise twice -- and it then hit the next cruise as well. To make things even worse on our cruise, it was particularly rough crossing the Pacific on our way to Hawaii. I heard, but didn't witness it personally, that hundreds of passengers got off in Hawaii and did not reboard. I know there were some and the ship was definitely less crowded on the way back but that could have been due to the rough waters. Everyone seemed to be getting sick. The poor captain got on the PA and pleaded with the passengers to wash their hands....if they ever wanted their tong privileges back. We went to a show one evening and there were literally only 7 people in the theater....and so many empty tables in the MDR at 7:00 PM no less.

 

We were so fortunate to not get sick on this cruise but were on the Star on a 15 night itinerary to Hawaii about 3 years ago. While their was no obvious norovirus outbreak, everyone seemed to be walking around hacking and coughing ... even our waiter didn't appear to be feeling well. So, of course, about 5 days in, my DH caught whatever URI bug that was going around -- about 3 days later, I caught it as well. Argh...it was just miserable.

We now won't sit next to anyone at a dinner table that is complaining about being sick. I just get up, head back to the front desk and ask to be reseated at a table for two and yes, we will wait. Hate to be that way but we were both so miserable that time we caught that awful cold onboard. It is just no fun to be sick on a cruise. Sorry for all those that had to experience it .... and keeping my fingers crossed for a happy and healthy cruise for next month, especially for my nephews.

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I was on the Star cruise to Hawaii. I spoke to one of the Medics in the elevator and he said that the biggest problem is "seasoned" passengers who lie on the medical form and get on board already sick. They lie because they know that they will be confined to their cabin until they are deemed not to be contagious.

 

On the first morning we were at breakfast in the dinning room and a man at the next table vomited right at the table. I had noticed his behaviour prior and I wondered why he didn't get up and go to a bathroom. I guess that he was one of the problem people that the Medic mentioned.

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My wife and I were on the 9/19- 10/4 cruise to Hawaii as well. We saw the same illnesses listed by everyone already so I won't bore you by repeating.

I would like to say to all the negative posting people - what makes you so unhappy? Are you like this with everything in your life?

The ship was extremely clean, staff were above friendly, food was good, Internet is much improved, tours were run efficiently and the only downside was inconsiderate passengers. We got flu shots 3 weeks prior to leaving, took massive doses of airborne and had a great time.

We are elites so this isn't our first rodeo and I couldn't have been more pleased with the way the Star handled the situation.

As we all grow older and we book well in advance we know it's a gamble with health matters. We have no clue what the future holds for our health tomorrow let alone 12 to 18 months in advance.

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Please be aware that their sanitizer is anti bacterial not anti viral. I can only find it online

 

 

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I'm glad somebody pointed that out! Nor and the Flu are viruses. The best defense against them are very warm water and soap, and use a paper towel to open the handle on a public restroom afterwards. The CDC has a great page on how to prevent the spread of the Noro virus. Warm water and soap are always a good idea!

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As a side note, we tried to get flu shots before we left home, but our doc said it was too early in the season. We didn't think to tell him we were going to be on a ship with a few thousand Canadians whose flu season is earlier than ours. Lesson learned by us!

 

 

 

Safe travels to all.

 

 

Just as an FYI, our flu season isn't any earlier here and we also have to wait until later this month to get our flu shots. Must be our temperate climate [emoji4]

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Just as an FYI, our flu season isn't any earlier here and we also have to wait until later this month to get our flu shots. Must be our temperate climate [emoji4]

 

Nobody ever called South Texas as being in a temperate climate, but flu shots were available here starting in late August.

 

I have no idea why they would only be available later where you live.

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I'm glad somebody pointed that out! Nor and the Flu are viruses. The best defense against them are very warm water and soap, and use a paper towel to open the handle on a public restroom afterwards. The CDC has a great page on how to prevent the spread of the Noro virus. Warm water and soap are always a good idea!

 

Flu virus is airborne transmitted, so the only defense on board (and on excursions) is not to breathe where someone with the flu has exhaled. Tough to do.

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