Dining apparel

Are black or white jeans appropriate for dinner.

Are black or white jeans appropriate for dinner.

According to the code, in the Grand Dining Room & Specialty Restaurants, dress Jeans are appropriate, casual jeans are not.

The Terrace (i.e. Buffet) Restaurant is always casual.

Are black or white jeans appropriate for dinner.

There are a couple of lengthy threads on this topic. As J&S said, according to Oceania's dress code dress jeans are appropriate. You can put "dress jeans" in the search bar to find the threads. Of course the controversy arises as to what constitutes "dress jeans". Most agree that Oceania cruisers are savvy enough to "get it". Then there are always a few who try to get away with stretching the rules. And lastly there are the "fashion police" who are horrified that ANY jeans would be tolerated.

There are a couple of lengthy threads on this topic. As J&S said, according to Oceania's dress code dress jeans are appropriate. You can put "dress jeans" in the search bar to find the threads. Of course the controversy arises as to what constitutes "dress jeans". Most agree that Oceania cruisers are savvy enough to "get it". Then there are always a few who try to get away with stretching the rules. And lastly there are the "fashion police" who are horrified that ANY jeans would be tolerated.

You may add in the people, I am among them, who believe that jeans just aren't a good choice for cruising. Too warm, too heavy, they take forever to dry-

I wear them at home too, but on a ship, particularly an upscale ship, There are just so many better choices.

Are black or white jeans appropriate for dinner.

A check of the dress standards , which sets country club casual Slacks collared shirt shoes no sandals... However, it also clealy states NO Jeans... and the simple definition of jeans is any pants made from denim or denim mix The white would most definitely be in appropriate in any dining venue on the ship escept Waves pool grill.... Dosent matter if you paid $9.95 or $500. Jeans are still jeans

How does this square with your statement that NO jeans are allowed in dining rooms ?? It doesn't.

From Oceania website today -

"Is there a dress code?

Recommended onboard clothing is resort or country club casual. For evening dining, elegant casual resort wear is suggested. We request that casual jeans, shorts, t-shirts or tennis shoes not be worn at dinner. "

From my very recent Riviera cruise documents

"In all evening dining venues, we request that guests adhere to the appropriate country club casual dress code. Shorts, casual jeans, t-shirts, athletic footwear or sandals are not permitted in the grand dining room or specialty restaurants."

To Jersan23, as you can see and as StanandJim posted above, CASUAL jeans are not allowed, but DRESS jeans are not exempt. On my recent cruise smart dress jeans were worn by some at dinner in every dining room. By dress jeans I mean monotone in colour, not faded or torn or fancily patched and more frequently I saw dark navy, black or white rather than a mid toned blue. No one cared, no one made a fuss. It was definitely ok. Wear them if you wish. It won't matter a jot, except to the fashion police on cruisecritic. And luckily, they don't really make the rules.

I posted at length about this just after my cruise -

http://boards.cruisecritic.co.uk/showthread.php?p=50305283#post50305283

The maître de at each restaurant, on every evening, decides what constitutes dress jeans versus casual jeans, NOT the cruiser, nor those of us here on cruise critic. Additionally, what might get by as dress jeans on night one may not pass as dress jeans the 4th time (or maybe even 2nd) you wear them unwashed and un ironed after that. The definition of "casual" jeans is not limited to the color blue. :rolleyes:

My gosh. Why fight it? Just go with the program and pack a pair or two of Dockers. They are lighter than jeans. Isn't all this ambiance the reason we choose O?

When they mean sandals aren't allowed, do they mean flip-flops or sandals you'd wear by the pool? What about wedge sandals?

My gosh. Why fight it? Just go with the program and pack a pair or two of Dockers. They are lighter than jeans. Isn't all this ambiance the reason we choose O?

I can agree with your first 5 words. The old guard is certainly fighting this quite hard.

The ambiance we chose is a relaxed code over the formal guidelines of many other cruise lines.

When they mean sandals aren't allowed, do they mean flip-flops or sandals you'd wear by the pool? What about wedge sandals?

Ladies can wear dress sandals

Pool like flip flops are just that for the pool deck same as those rubber clog shoes wear on the pool deck or in the Terrace would be OK

Ladies can wear dress sandals

 

Pool like flip flops are just that for the pool deck same as those rubber clog shoes wear on the pool deck or in the Terrace would be OK

While I completely agree with you this is one of the situations where a person could play semantics and say it only says sandals, not dress or casual. If the same thinking applied towards the wording of sandals as some people apply it to jeans then all sandals wouldn't be allowed in the dining room.

I'm amused as some are now defining "non casual jeans" as the way they want it to be, not as Oceania views it. :rolleyes:

As most of us know the reality is quite different than the way some people would like it to be.

While I completely agree with you this is one of the situations where a person could play semantics and say it only says sandals, not dress or casual. If the same thinking applied towards the wording of sandals as some people apply it to jeans then all sandals wouldn't be allowed in the dining room.

 

I'm amused as some are now defining "non casual jeans" as the way they want it to be, not as Oceania views it. :rolleyes:

 

As most of us know the reality is quite different than the way some people would like it to be.

Yes you can interpret the rules to suit your needs/wants

Pictures of what is acceptable by Oceania would work better that way there is no confusion

Maybe include them in the Blue Book :D

Ironically I have two pairs of leggings from Chicos, that are denim. One is white and the other a very dark blue. I actually was thinking on our Caribbean cruise that the white pair would be OK to wear to dinner, with a dressy blouse, and heels. I also have black jeans, that again with black heels I was considering wearing possibly to dinner. I will however be packing dresses to make sure I have an assortment of proper attire after I see what other ladies are wearing. I am a person that normally changes after dinner anyway, as I tend to be cold on cruise ships. Most likely my regular everyday leggings will come out of the suitcase, with a more comfortable top LOL I sure hope people will still talk to us! I find casinos usually are cold on ships, however with this ship being so much smaller I may save myself some money and stay away from the casino anyway. Once again I will probably overpack!

I live in San Diego, so some people wear sandals year-round (for me, it's mostly April through October). And I agree that pictures would be great. That is, picture of actual passengers, not Oceania brochure models.

I live in San Diego, so some people wear sandals year-round (for me, it's mostly April through October). And I agree that pictures would be great. That is, picture of actual passengers, not Oceania brochure models.

In point of fact, if you read your passage contract carefully, it gives Oceania the right to use your likeness, gratis naturally, for publicity purposes, and although they are not awash with such images, a few of the Brochures do include photographs of actual Oceania Passengers.

Another wish granted :D

Not sure why people make such heavy weather of all this.

I am a woman who never wears heels. I wear regular sandals (Naot) or just casual flats or if I feel dressy, a pair of sparkly cork-soled Mephistos. Never had a problem. I always change for dinner. I wear a slightly fancier tee shirt or top with pants or a skirt. (No slogans or similar!) Never had a problem. I don't mind re-wearing the same skirt on multiple occasions. My husband wears khakis and a long sleeved dress shirt. He puts on dressy shoes changing out of his walking shoes. (A tip - my husband changes into a clean shirt after our day out and then he wears it the next day. Saves on laundry. He discovered this on walking tours in France.)

We like to do this because dining on Oceania is an occasion! But I appreciate the looser guidelines and don't like "formal nights' on other cruise lines. I don't think we need diagrams and charts.

Have any of you been denied entrance into a dining room on Oceania? Can you see why or was it arbitrary? Just curious!

Have any of you been denied entrance into a dining room on Oceania? Can you see why or was it arbitrary? Just curious!

I have not but I dress in a nice pr of slacks & nice top no sparkles & DH wears a button down shirt with dockers or dress slacks

I HAVE seen people turned away for wearing shorts to the GDR for dinner

to each his own

I have seen people, more commonly men, turned away from the GDR and Specialties for attempting to wear jeans. It was always my feeling, along with others that were around at the time, that those turned away were in fact wearing casual jeans. Some times those jeans were very causal and others appeared to have been worn all day touring and didn't appear "dressy" at all . If you are a male, and maybe even a female, I doubt you'll get by any maître de wearing any models of Levi, Lee, or other such brands of blue jeans. Those 501s are not "dress" jeans.

I will add that when situations have gotten ugly, and the cruiser wants to argue the matter with the maître de, I have never seen a restaurant manager override the initial decision of the maître de. Go change your pants or go to the Terrace!

I have not but I dress in a nice pr of slacks & nice top no sparkles & DH wears a button down shirt with dockers or dress slacks

Is there something wrong with 'sparkles'?

Is there something wrong with 'sparkles'?

I personally don't wear them. To each his or her own!

Is there something wrong with 'sparkles'?

I am not a sparkle type person

YMMV

There's sparkles and then there's sparkles. Big difference between a nice top and a souvenir shirt.

How about this..if you would wear it to a nice restaurant at home..you can wear it on board..I always tell me friends think Chicos..

Jancruz1

When they mean sandals aren't allowed, do they mean flip-flops or sandals you'd wear by the pool? What about wedge sandals?

The dress code states that "athletic footwear or sandals" are not permitted in the Grand Dining Room or the specialty restaurants. Dressy sandals are totally appropriate, as that's what most women wear when dressed up. Just don't show up wearing flip flops, Crocs, those plastic slip ons, etc. It's common sense IMO.