We are off on Monday (19th) on the Round Britain cruise (Dover/Dover) fingers crossed that the weather will stay fine.
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For me there is something spiritual about being in Rhodes on Yom Kippur and that relates to the remembrance of so many people who perished or had to leave that area during WWII.Please forgive a slight off-topic question. Keith, did Rhodes have a large Jewish population before the war? We were there a few years back with friends and found the one (and only apparently?) synagogue, which was, unfortunately, closed that day.
Yes Rhoades did have a large Jewish population before the war. I used to know an older Jewish woman who grew up there. She said it was a good sized Jewish community.Interesting. I learned something new today. Thanks.
That being said on our trip there 8 years ago we experience some anti-semitism by a group of locals. When we asked directions to the synagogue we were cursed and run out of the man's store.
Not much of that left in Europe thank goodness.
Please forgive a slight off-topic question. Keith, did Rhodes have a large Jewish population before the war? We were there a few years back with friends and found the one (and only apparently?) synagogue, which was, unfortunately, closed that day.Larry, just to expand on Ilene's comments.
Hi Keith and All too soon,David, I too hope we get to meet up with you on a cruise.
Thanks for your replies which I appreciate. I suppose it is too much to expect Crystal to reschedule but thought they would have avoided the high holy days for a cruise visiting Israel. I suppose I will just have to look at an alternative line. I am not that orthodox but would feel a bit uncomfortable holidaying over that period.
On another note, our forthcoming cruise on Serenity will be our first as 'all inclusive'. It will be interesting to see if it has affected any of the service on board. For us Crystal has always been the best and long may it stay that way.
i have mentioned this before but I wish that they would have a round trip UK cruise.which goes south over 12 to 14 days rather than only going around Britain.
Keith I always enjoy reading your advice to other posters. It would be nice to meet up with you one day on a future cruise maybe.
Best wishes and good yomtov.
I suppose it is too much to expect Crystal to reschedule but thought they would have avoided the high holy days for a cruise visiting Israel. I suppose I will just have to look at an alternative line. I am not that orthodox but would feel a bit uncomfortable holidaying over that period.I remain a little surprised that the one cruise to the holy land occurred on such a holy day. Either Crystal faced scheduling constraints (as they always do), or assumes their demographic is not strictly observant, or simply didn't think to check. I have found enough minor scheduling glitches over the years to infer that the scheduling department doesn't look at holidays much (except for those they can sell). But other examples include hitting ports on days when everything is closed due to holidays, etc. It would be interesting to ask the boss how they do the scheduling (I'll bet even the Cruise Director might have some insight).
ATS, yes, many of the Cruise Directors should would be a good source to ask. This would be a good one to ask about to see if the timing of Yom Kippur was or was not considered.If you recall, Keith, the 2010 WC visited Israel on the first day of Passover, which also coincided with Christian Holy Thursday. We did the full day Jerusalem tour and that is one day, with a lot of good memories, that we will never forget! It is high on our list of places to visit again one day.
Another excellent source should be the Captains who are consulted for their input and if you sail with Captain Birger Vorland he would be an excellent source to ask because he was instrumental in planning the schedules for Crystal's fleet prior to his current assignment as Master of the Crystal Serenity.
As to the scheduling, it is a very iterative and complex process, which includes input from a variety of sources and there is a lot to factor in. It is highly complex and must take into account many items. I've asked about this before.
-Voyages that support the marketing and essentially voyages which will sell.
-Voyages with start and end point that are optimal for getting provisions to the ship and that are places that one can fly in and out of.
-Voyages that when pieced together will get each ship to their desired seasonal sailing locations.
-The availability of the actual ports. Israel is unique its own way as it has far more restrictions than most because of security reasons.
-Extensive research on any first time ports included on the itinerary from their ability to meet Crystal's security requirements to their ability to support shore excursions.
-Time of year and time of day for arrivals and departures including Tide Levels.
-Sufficient time at sea to make water for the ship.
- And a slew of other factors.
Some voyages do highlight being at places at the ideal times such as say the Harmony being in Sydney for its Olympics, the Serenity being in Rio for Carnaval, the Symphony being in Sydney and Hong Kong for New Years Eve. And there are times that the ships might not always be somewhere at the optimal time such as on a Holiday or say in a French port on a Sunday.
While some people might not sail on Yom Kippur you will find others of the Jewish Faith who would like to visit Israel around the High Holy Days even if it means being on the ship for Yom Kippur. I suspect that this will be a popular voyage. Again, I've sailed with Crystal over Yom Kippur and the ship was very full and I know there was a rather large number of people on board of the Jewish Faith as both the Yom Kippur and Friday night services were very full.
Anyway, like everything else each person who considers this sailing will factor in their own preferences.