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CleverFirst

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  1. Did you really just take an article, from 2015, from investor.com which has an extremely anti-union bias as seen later in the article, that itself does not cite any sources, and use that as evidence? Everything I'm seeing from current posted wages on glassdoor.com, salary.com, careers.com, etc, is showing in the 40-80k range, with 60k being very much the median. Which, is certainly not bad money, especially for the labor I'm seeing them do, lifting heavy luggage, bag after bag, for hours. https://www.salary.com/research/salary/posting/longshoreman-salary Again, you're retired out of the workforce, I just don't think you have a good idea of what current working conditions are like, what the current economy for younger working class people is like, etc. And btw I never claimed you specifically were fear mongering about bags going missing, but that the thread in general was. I do still stand by the fact (even moreso now, after that "evidence" you produced) that you're clearly out of date/out of touch with your info you're providing and not a good source to trust on these workers' wages.
  2. Yes, exactly. The whole point of my post was that the thread was going in a very ugly direction of villainizing these people and making outrageous claims that "luggage will go missing if a cruiser doesn't succumb to the extortion of these port workers who are actually making a base pay much higher than theirs, and then still demanding tips ontop of that base pay". Totally ridiculous.
  3. That person is retired out of the workforce, has made insulting posts multiple times in this thread about the workers, and is trying to imply they all make six figures. Maybe a handful do. But I just googled salaries for longshoremen in florida as well (just incase porter wasn't producing the correct results) , and that salary is still 70k at the high end. I do not trust their posts as a resource at all. Edit: everyone knows averages can be significantly skewed by outliers. The MEDIAN wage for a longshoreman in miami is 26k.
  4. I don't have any first hand experience with porters or longshoremen salaries, and it sounds like neither do any of you, but I do have experience being a union worker and being on the receiving end of the whole "they get paid too much already for what they do" manipulation tactics. The vast majority of laborers in the US make, and survive on, much less than what everyone else not intimately aware of the profession expects. I'm a union nurse who makes 65k a year. I do get great healthcare, retirement, and education benefits. But the narrative that nurses are making six figures, making more than residents and fellows, is absurd. And this tactic of shaming minimum and low wage workers for "getting paid too much" for the work they do, because one time you saw a person taking a nap or whatever, is just an example of turning the middle class against the lower class to prevent the middle and lower class from recognizing the true source of greed and injustice, the corporations. I did a google search of miami porter salary which shows the high end being 18 dollars an hour. That is certainly not six figures, and while it's.... I guess... a living wage.... to say they make more than most cruisers and are greedy for even expecting tips, let alone ASKING for them, and then creating a boogey man story that they are maliciously handling baggage if their "demands are not met" is so toxic. They are people, doing a physical labor job, just trying to make a buck. This isn't negotiating with terrorists. If you don't tip, fine, but this theme of villainizing them to make yourself feel better about not tipping is extremely ugly.
  5. Had the main dining room converted to the new menus for your cruise?
  6. The cost of cabs is a little confusing and I'm having trouble being sure what the most up to date information is. 1. Are there SUV sized cabs or only sedan? There will be 3 of us + luggage. 2. Is it metered or flat rate? Estimate? A Lyft XL may be cheaper if splitting cost 3 ways.
  7. A show about friendship, community, exceeding expectations, and boba fet? What's not to like? Also this would catapult royal firmly into the 20's-50's crowd and only the cool 50+ cruisers would still stick around. I'm for it tbh.
  8. I enjoy most musicals, including Grease, but agree it's a very misogynistic "happy ending". I prefer Royal as a line over NCL but NCL made an excellent choice going with SIX as a show for 2 ships in their fleet. Such an excellent, high energy, short (in terms of broadway musicals) show that is full of bops and promotes girl power. That show is doing for female-identifying audiences what Hamilton did for POC audiences and I'm so grateful for it.
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