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Thanks but that is what I was saying above, I thought I'd booked it direct but somehow I screwed up and hadn't booked it. It's sold out now.

Thank you @hallasm. Something like that is probably what we'll do. Walk around town, see the sites, maybe the petro museum, eventually sit and have a coffee or wine or small bite to eat. We'll also look into doing some hiking. I'd love to hike Preikestolen/Pulpit Rock, not sure if my wife can do it, but we'll see what else is available in the area. We'll enjoy ourselves no doubt.

I agree with all of this - been a while but I don't recall upsell at Fogo. I agree with Bird that it would annoying to deal with. And definitely agree on the quality. The national chains are much, much better than Moderno.

Now I am really, really bummed. I must have screwed up something and I never actually made the reservation for this excursion. And now it's sold out. Princess also offers a similar excursion (for 3 times the money and an hour less time), and it too is sold out. Now, I'm not sure what we'll do in Stavanger. Sigh.

And multiple cruise lines last year didn't participate. But now NCL apparently has joined the list. A couple more nickels saved on the expense side of the ledger.

We are doing the Rodne small boat cruise in the Lysefjord when we are in Stavanger in July (on Princess). We are doing it because quite frankly nothing else interested us in that town. I would love to hike Pulpit rock, but, my wife couldn't do it.

yep. We were in Vibe and there was always a long line outside seaside buffet (which we could see from Vibe) during this time frame. At least once, we saw the line going up the stairs to the speedway.

If you say so. Of course to the best of my knowledge, "variety of foodie" and beef aren't mutually exclusive. Except apparently in NCL's MDRs.

Funny, I don't recall seeing beef eliminated from the Cagney's or Q menus you posted. And I believe you said they had beef in the buffett. Eliminating beef options from the MDR menus has nothing to do with "contemporary cruisers" (just as the entertainment changes didn't) and everything to do with cost savings and revenue enhancement.

Actually, my comments here had nothing to do with bad cruise line or good cruise line. My comments were directed to a few specific people,who's opinions I generally respect, asking for clarity on an opinion they posted. My comments really had little to do with the specifics of this situation which quite frankly I don't care about.

presumably you feel the BMW equates to NCL? Ummm no. NCL and CCL are like Ford and Chrysler. Very similar products both targeting very similar demographics.

Agreed. Back in the day I'd find an excuse to see a customer in someplace like Brussels, just to avoid CDG when ultimately going into France.

But you end up in Tahiti!

Sure, if it's not known when the passengers will arrive of course you don't wait. But in this case supposedly there were passengers in the terminal. "how long do you wait" - not so long that you are late to the next port. not so long that you need to burn excessive amounts of fuel to get to next port. Not all itineraries are that tight. Have you ever looked at tracking for a cruise you were on? It's not uncommon to see ships travelling in circles to kill time, or, slowing down to a crawl or near standstill. As I write above, I'm OK with leaving the pier to maintain schedule and to avoid excessive costs. But leaving late doesn't automatically mean either. Not necessarily. See what I wrote above.

Direct flights definitely can have change of equipment (get off one plane and walk to another). The only thing that makes a flight a "Direct Flight" is common flight number.