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  1. So lets Summarize.......USA CDC has advised passengers not to travel on cruise ships. Canada has the same advisory issued. Several Molecular biologists were on the news today saying "Cruises are floating Petrie dishes". Now Italy, Whole country is closed....nobody in or out.....Italian cases top 9000. France, Spain and Germany are experiencing severe increases of cases day by day, according to Johns Hopkins tracker. Death toll worldwide has broken 4000.....which is not bad considering 36,500 people died in traffic accidents alone in USA last year. That said, the Spanish flu started mild and went on to kill 50-100 million people, which started off as a regular virus which changed and morphed become super deadly. IMHO, Most of the Med is going to close to cruiseships and the cruiselines are really in a pickle..... Celebrity has The constellation heading empty to Cadiz for it's edgeification....and then Silhouette, Edge, Reflection and Infinity are due to cross over.....Thats 5 ships in Europe where nobody may be able to get on or off at any ports for the next few months at least......Talk about a "Soft Season".......I think Celebrity needs to announce their plans ASAP as I believe they are going to cut capacity in Europe and keep more ships closer to the USA....."For those of us Waiting to hear".....I wish they would communicate intentions sooner rather then later. Safe sails to all!
  2. This is a DONE deal for us.....Virus is one thing, Gvt saying Don't go is a completely different stage.....I was a stalwart "definitely still going person" ......This really is making me reconsider.....Coupled with so many unknowns and lack of definitive treatment and these quarantine risks.....it is taking my "Fun" our of cruising. At least if I fly down to San Juan/Hawaii.....sit on the beach.....I can still fly home.....for now.....This quarantine on ships is looking like the dealbreaker......IMHO
  3. I have been monitoring our transatlantic and other cruises and it appears inventory has been "Frozen"......What is showing on my and my Travel agents websites is NOT the inventory we find when we called.........So I think, for certain cruises, Celebrity is not playing their hand showing what is and isn't available......They are under no legal obligation to show real inventory......Also in case of cancellations or unforseen circumstances....they are playing this close to the Vest. I agree with Jim that they are not lowering suite prices (thus keeeping them high) and the upgrade bidding is what they are going to accept. We shall see soon enough. Safe Sails to all!
  4. From an Environmental point of view, the USA has far less protective laws then Europe. Europe is Very tough to deal with for employment and environment....Even for foreign registered ships. I believe it will come down to Cancellation costs$ VS European bookings $....The European bookings are quite "Soft"for this season and the question is do they need 4 ships there? or maximize the revenue with 2 or 3 ships......I am sure the number crunchers are burning the midnight oil. During the 9/11 aftermath, they pulled many ships back to the Caribbean and were able to fill them as Americans like being closer to home in times of fear.....Economic/Political/Health....triple whammy here.... At this point, I believe cruiselines are getting more cancellations then bookings and the next 4-8 weeks are going to be eye opening.......This situation is a real tough one....... Safe Sails to all.
  5. That the following precautions are being taken.... "These temporary safety precautions will remain in place for a projected period of 30 days and will be reviewed daily. Until further notice, any person, regardless of nationality, who has traveled to, from or through mainland China, Hong Kong, Macau, Italy, Iran, or South Korea 15 days prior to embarkation, will be unable to board our ships. This includes traveling on connecting flights through these areas or coming in to contact with people who have traveled to, from or through mainland China, Hong Kong, Macau, Italy, Iran, or South Korea. The CDC characterizes contact with an individual as coming within six feet (2M) of a person." And the message from Celebrity states that this is being done for Passengers and Crew Safety. I would take note of Italy though, because we are on the re-positioning and Rome is were our Edge cruise Ends? So why would Celebrity allow the Ship, Passengers and Crew to exit in Italy and provision with all this contamination and the travel notice above?????? Me thinks one of the following is going to happen if the Virus continues to wreak travel havoc, which it will: 1) We will be bumped to another port.....and skip Italy.......Perhaps Athens or Barcelona? OR 2) Celebrity will cancel some of the transatlantic's opting to keep the ships "Closer to home" where they have more control.....Keep in mind that Europe is in it's virus infancy and just leaving the containment stages........if all the ports close like happened in Asia......Celebrity will have to bring the ships home anyway.....AND if one of the ships gets quarantined in Europe, they will have far less control then if it was quarantined in America where they are headquartered etc. I feel for what RF and LLP must be going through these days........ Neither of these decisions is great......I just hope they would notify us sooner rather then later as the rebooking of airfares with all these cancelled flights these days is going to be a bear for those of us who made independent travel arrangements. We are still excited to go and cruise and will make the best of whatever Celebrity does.......Time shall tell. Wishing everyone Safe travels.
  6. I believe the origin was originally ordered by Celebrity and they moved the order over to Silversea. Celebrity has the Flora....100 pasengers 5800 tons.....And Silversea will have Silver Origin 100 passengers 5800 tons....decked out in Silversea Style of course.....
  7. To answer your questions: We asked if RCL was going to "Buy" the last 1/3 of Silversea they do not own and nobody knows? Those investment decisions are kept close to the vest I would assume. Regarding Captains club and Silversea's Venetian society. The Ventian societies best benefit is free laundry after 100 nights and is cheap about their free cruises.....only offering a 7 night cruise after 350 nights sailing......Not sure how they would integrate but if they did I bet they would have many more "crossovers". When we brought up RCL buying Silversea, many of the long time Silversea passengers claimed they already see cuts? Not for us to say. Sometimes the whisper causes panic......We stopped talking about it as we didn't want to "rock the boat" Onboard sales was CLUELESS on anything Celebrity or Royal.....There is NO cross selling yet happening. This is strange to me as many of these passengers have grandkids and great grandkids and Royal is a Great line for Kids and family trips etc. Dress code: I squeaked in with a Jacket and Tie on formal nights. You do not necessarily need a "Suit" however most men were quite dressed up, actually more so then the Women on this cruise. Many many tuxedo's also in attendance. I hope this helps your packing. Lastly, I forgot something very nice to bring up. They had a few singles onboard well into their 80's and the butlers would wheel them into the dining room at night for dinner and then take them back to their cabins.....a Nice personal touch I thought. As far as Galapagos, I may be wrong but I think Celebrity sold the sister of Flora to Silversea to increase their footprint....adventure travel brings in BIG $$ for these cruiselines. Also, as you are in a national park, each cruiseline is only allowed a certain amount of "Medals" which allow the ships to sail there, so nobody has an unfair advantage and it controls pollution etc. So there are only so many ships that can go there.....FYI. Safe sails to all. Cheers!
  8. Silversea recently offered only a 10% single supplement on a series of cruises so we hopped onboard as Celebrity requires we pay for 2 PAX for single cabins and this was a far better deal for us, 42% less then Celebrity. Also the dates worked perfectly and we had done several Silversea Cruises years ago before we starting enjoying Celebrity. We were on the Silverspirit in Asia, just prior to the breaking of the Cornovirus. The ship had been recently "Stretched" to increase it's capacity to around 600+ passengers. We are usually sailing in a Sky Suite on Celebrity and we took a mid ship Veranda Suite on Silversea. Keep in mind that all rooms are suites onboard Silversea, the smallest of which is 300 square feet. Beautifully appointed, great beds, Huge soft puffy towels and a stand up shower as well as a bath. Single television, similar to Celeb Sky suite which pivots left and right. What is nice though is Silversea has a walk in closet. Every cabin onboard has full Butler and meal services included in your fare. All Alcohol was also included. Similar to a Celebrity 4 perk package. We LOVED our cabins. We did not love the smoking policy.....left side of the ship and outdoor public spaces....and yes, people smoked Cigars as well. Lots of pool chairs to be had and yes, same problem with chair hogs......One in the shade, one in the sun etc. There were several restaurants to chose from for included dining....Atlantide was like the "Main Dining room", then they had an Asian restaurant next door, A Buffet Restaurant that went alacarte Italian in the evenings and an out door grill with a pizza oven outside by the pool. There also was a jazz club spot which served food stuffs, but we did not try. Overall we found that the food was as good as Celebrity Luminae, Murano or even the main dining room some nights. They however offered more choice depending on our moods. We found the Celebrity Buffet to actually be better then what was offered on Silversea. Celebrity gives you vast options and the smaller ship really cannot compete. Where Silversea did compete is in the occasional high end ingredients. You could have Lobster every night if you wished, Sushi and Sashimi were standard everyday on the lunch Buffet. First lunch they had a Seafood extravaganza with snow crab claws and Giant King Crab legs that were delightfully sweet. That all said, the hot dishes were sitting around, the flavours were bland and the buffet overall was boring. Size wins with Celebrity on this one. Also, the sushi onboard was meh and we found Sushi on 5 a far nicer "option" on Celebrity. Clientele onboard was quite old, much older then Celebrity. Average age was probably upper 70's. 60% of our cruise were British Passengers, followed by Americans, Aussies and Canadians Germans etc. LOTS of plastic surgery was in evidence and several people had a variety of mobility issues, perhaps more evident then Celebrity as less guests? On Silversea buffet, they carried your plates back to your table for you and this was needed for large amounts of older SS passengers. Also, the night of the Brexit document signing, many of the British people marched around the ship with flags, requesting British songs to be played in the lounges to sing along to....it was quite a spectacle. It upset some other European cruisers visibly and was uncomfortable for many as it was like taking your politics on the road.....Never a good Idea. The dress code on Silversea nearly killed me. in 14 nights we had 2 formal (Jacket and tie)....no tie=NO ENTRY, fully enforced. 9 Informal nights, jacket required, no tie, fully enforced. 3 casual nights....long pants and button down shirts etc. I found the temperature of the ship to be warm in all public areas.....I complained but Silversea explained that as they have an older clientele, they like the ship kept warmer (hospital ship anyone?). This was Terrible for me sweating it out in my jacket and tie. I realized that here Celebrity wins out hands down over Silversea....the Chic nights are something for everyone.....Silversea's formailty is not for me anymore. IMHO. Every night in the hot jacket I kept thinking "I can't wait to get back to celebrity".... Internet is included in Everyone's fare. I will NEVER complain about Celebrity's internet again. Silversea's internet was an Abomination...... it took sometimes 5-7 minutes to pull up my gmail account, let alone answer emails. I was unable to work and had to get off in two ports schlepping my laptop to a local hotel to engage in simple emails. We were on an Asian Celebrity cruise to most of the same ports 1 year prior and had NO Problems.. Yet Silversea told us it was the "Area", I don't know what was going on, but this "Area" on Celebrity worked just fine last year? Very disappointing for this newly renovated ship. You could pay to "Upgrade" your email $30 per day, however it was just as slow...really ridiculous in this day and age. Bars and lounges were busy from 6PM on and dead after 9:30PM.....It's like the whole ship just goes to bed. There are small entertainers who come onboard but no "broadway style" shows. That said, this was quite a well heeled crowd and we felt that if this crowd wanted broadway, they would just go there and do a week in NYC. Lastly, we find Celebrity staff to be wonderful, friendly, warm and helpful on all the ships we have been on. We feel Celebrity Cruises staff is the best asset Celebrity Cruises has! The service was similar on Silversea however far more "Reserved". We never felt warmth or real caring from the Silversea staff onboard (except our most excellent butler) we rarely saw officers.......The whole Silversea experience was far "Cooler" to us then the Celebrity experience. Again, strictly our opinion. When this cruise was ending, we were happy to go on our way having once again experienced Silversea Cruises. We would return if the itinerary, date or price was right..... Overall, we enjoyed the positives that Silversea offers. That said, we missed the interesting people watching, the chic dress codes, several bars to drink in, so many public rooms to choose from, we missed Celebrity!!!! The Celebrity suite experience or even Aqua class gives us the "Small ship" in a big ship feeling and that is really the best of both worlds. Our next 4 cruises are all on Celebrity and we very much look forward to returning. Hope this is helpful! Safe Sails to all!
  9. I know LOTS of seasoned Celebrity staff who have jumped ship over to Virgin. Some wonderful people, quite sad that Celebrity let them go. That said, we all follow the paths best for us..... I wish everyone well.
  10. Le petit chef has been around in Dubai and Asia and Vegas for years.....This is nothing new or visionary.....Celebrity does a poor job of carrying it off IMHO. As a whole, we found the experience week in all venues over the years.....That said, we tried always expecting better and always found it all meh.......Use your $$ elsewhere IMHO. Safe Sails!
  11. Did this on Millennium and two of our three had food poisoning........Not sure what did us in. We also received conflicting information.......F&B Director, Italian chap, told us that no local seafood was taken onboard due to health concerns, he claimed all major cruiselines follow this protocol.........OK. Then Tuscan manager told us this was fresh Alaskan King Crab legs they took onboard 1 day ago?? We were on a Princess cruise 1 month prior and on our last formal night they offered unlimited crabs legs in lieu of Lobster if that was your order......They were fantastic, fresh and sweet! Celebrity's crab legs were ok, not great....and we were sick for 24 hours...... Not sure what the "correct" information is as so many people invent truth to maximize profits.....imagine that? Safe Sails to all!
  12. Hello All: We have cruised extensively with Celebrity over the years. About 1 or 2 years ago we were onboard and the Transatlantics were not yet bookable. The onboard sales team allowed us to purchase a $200 deposit per cabin which would give us the same benefits as booking onboard when the transatlantics were being released the following month. Next month we booked using these future cruise credits of $200 per cabin for our deposits. Jump forward a year and we have received a $800 FCC for a maintenance issue on one of our recent cruises. Historically we advise our travel agent to apply the FCC on the next cruise and this has always worked. This time, our travel agent came back to us saying that because we used the FCC of $200 you can no longer combine FCC's on one cruise. We would have to push our FCC to use on another cruise? This does not sound correct? I know you cannot stack "promotions" like shareholder etc but I always thought FCC's act as a cash alternative regardless? When did this policy change? Any insight you can shed on this change in policy is much appreciated. This is not how FCC's have ever worked for us? Safe Sails to all!
  13. IMHO Canyon Ranch massages are terrible....tend to be weak and always seem to short me about 5 minutes, which is a rub....no pun intended. I tried maybe 10-15 times and then just gave up. I would rather pay for an expert then a "cruise" massage and there is a huge difference. People go on vacation and go "All out" with the Canyon Ranch brand......Its all advertising, mediocre product... We take some time out at home and get some excellent massages.....far better use of our time. Safe Sails.
  14. My concern would not be the ship itself. My concern would be that they would be using up foods to empty the ship before the drydock and Employee thoughts would be elsewhere. We once did a Princess cruise two cruises prior to drydock and it was a horror, They had transferred the best staff to other ships. Terrible food, Construction workers and engineers onboard getting ready for the big re-do.....We would not do this again and think your concern is genuine and should be. Learn from our mistake....book something else. We lived it.
  15. We were on the Millie crossing from Vancouver to Tokyo. Beautiful renovations! Great Staff. We found food to be not good in both MDR and Luminae. Surprisingly the Buffet had better food then both. Also Millenniums wines on offer were terrible....really bad. That said, crews/chefs change and sometimes you just need to go with it. Every ship has it's own Rhythm which is why we never say we have a Favourite ship....because ships are always "In Motion"......we have great memories fro all our journeys Safe Sails to all!
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