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  1. CLIA said they're not interested, and said they wouldn't earn more. Things are different quite different now. Also, there's more than PVSA on their list of priorities but being allowed to do X is obviously always better than not being allowed to do X so there must be more to it than "we don't care". Of course they want to be allowed to do cruises to nowhere using the same crew, skip so-called foreign ports, don't want the hassle. Even if it's just the time spent by employees to find out if a combination of two cruises is allowed or not, PVSA is costing a lot of money. I simply don't believe it if they say "their bottom line wouldn't be affected", I think that it's a political thing where CLIA picks its battles. For now, banning plastic straws seems to be digested easier by the general public than for instance explaining how more American jobs on land are created by allowing foreign crew on ships that sail to Hawaii or nowhere in particular. (This would be such a good time for ships to make sure that everyone knows how many US jobs are lost (TA's, gambling machine makers, all the way to the farmers) because they're not sailing. If I owned a line I'd make an ad that starts with all such misery, and we know you miss us, but we'll be back soon and you'll sail safer than ever!). Anyway, PVSA is a very, very long discussion. 🙂 Re: the jobs, that's why I mentioned an explicit list of ships, CLIA-membership and the duckboat owners. I think your administration can perfectly make a law that distinguishes between what a cruise ship is (like > 500 pax, >0.5 crew/guest ratio) and what a ferry is. Also a judge is supposed to look up what the lawmakers really meant, and will say that a tour boat is not a cruise ship as meant in the article that says that Indonesian crew can pour beer on a ship that sails from New York and doesn't visit another port before returning to New York. It's hard to see which US jobs would be jeopardized by that (I recall a ship that can sail to Hawaii which had it's own exemption) . It's even harder to see if there are more voters who cling to those jobs than voters who like their cheap cruises.
  2. Allowing foreigners just to work on a ship won't make headlines I guess. Who would really care if the US officially makes an exception for cruise ships while the crisis lasts? I mean, nobody wants the entire industry to die. The law could specifically list all cruise ships for which the exception holds, or say that they must be a member of CLIA, so the duckboat owners can't say they should be part of it. That being said, who in their right mind embarks on a cruise ship now? This is a disease of which we don't know much yet, but we do know that many will know they once were infected until they die, and some will die within weeks. I'm not a doctor, but everything I see says it's better for your health to smoke than increasing your risk of an infection 1000 fold compared to staying at home by going on a cruise right now.
  3. If all big gatherings of guests and crew can be avoided I'd feel safer on a ship than sitting in a small tube with hundreds of others for 8 hours. Fewers guests, only balcony huts. No more buffets, casino, bingo, swimming, performances. Public restrooms closed. Restaurants open all day but at very limited capacity. Salt and pepper on request only. Free room service. Massive cleaning and testing. And a much higher fare. Maybe even a pre-cruise obligatory quarantine of a week and denying guests for a runny nose. The ship sails slow, so when the ship arrives the guests have already had their 14 day quarantine many countries require for entry. People who need to cross the Atlantic would have a very expensive option to get there, and the ships generate at least some income.
  4. Hi Chief, Am I right that crew cost is only a small percentage of the total cost of running a cargo ship? If so, what other costs are caused by flying a US flag besides more expensive crew?
  5. The intricacies of maritime law.. Wouldn't that only count if you find an abandoned ship at sea?
  6. While we hardly can get more of topic, I don't understand why ships don't have simple things for sale that people need. Needles, antacids, deodorant, chargers for phones, OTC medicines. Women might like some products as well. Nobody cares about paying twice as much as in their local supermarket when they need it it now. It's such a simple way for the ships to make money combined with making things easier for their pax.
  7. OK, but apart from duty, why "oh, you're at the city, there is no malaria in the city, only outside the city"?
  8. I completely agree with the upset folks. Obviously, people have their own responsibilities but isn't it obvious that people would expect to be able to buy Deet on the ship? I guess it's not the first time HAL sailed on the Amazon, and they must have had complaints before. Easy to fix, and a bigger profit than the $10 watches.
  9. OK. Again, IANAL. I think saying someone is a criminal or a scammer, with evidence for why they say he's a criminal, leaves it up to the reader to decide what to think of it. If you think that the discounts are realistic discounts, the word "criminal" means nothing. If you think "discounts? what discounts are they talking about", you might want to express that feeling on a forum using words that a lawyer wouldn't use. I think it's a bit far fetched to think that people would take it as "oh no, let's not do business with them because someone on CC said they are criminals". Once again, IANAL but I think that would be freedom of expression.
  10. I'm not versed in US laws, (or any law actually) but saying that a product is heavily discounted when it's obviously not is at least not very nice. It's probably legal to do so, but even without being a lawyer I'd guess warning others of simple facts is not slander.
  11. This site needs a FAQ. Or actually, we need a book to answer everything for both new and experienced cruises, from musters to salty pools, from PVSA to broken toilets, from stabilizers to pilots. The perfect gift to hint that the family is going on a cruise. The perfect gift for all those people who enjoy and actually pay for visiting a kitchen. The book I'd buy myself in a heartbeat. I'm looking at you Chenkp75. Get a ghost writer, all he has to do is to summarize your posts, but there are probably juicy stories to add, and publish the book that many are waiting for. Just the "..., also known as Chenkp75 on CruiseCritic" is probably enough reason for thousands to buy the book.
  12. Huh, didn't the hospital understand you'd be sailing on the Amazon? And why would you need to smuggle anti-malaria drugs? They're not restricted are they? When visiting Zimbabwe with my (then) girlfriend, we decided to not take the pills for the side effects en were religiously using Deet all the time.😀 Well, I was amazed (but being amazed is my middle name 😀) that I couldn't simply buy antacids on the ship (whereas they did sell toothpaste), I was referred to the infirmary. Luckily my cruise mate could supply me from her magic purse. On a cruise like that I'd expect the ship to have loads of Deet in stock and the CD to say daily that you need to protect yourselves. Ships do provide you with (even free) meds for seasickness, and food for being hungry. I'd expect them to bring Deet and not just Tonic.
  13. I OK, the impression I got from documentaries etc was that even a few hours lost for a really big ship means thousands and thousands of dollars. In January this year, MSC Zoe tried to save some time by taking a much more dangerous, but a bit shorter, route leaving 342 containers for Holland to deal with (including mess that simply cannot be cleaned like tiny plastic particles). While such huge ships won't be sailing on the Amazon, I guess HAL's financial department would like to avoid grounded ships as well for a nice sum. Maybe we are talking about a non-problem, but still. What's the use of having charts that show ample depth at point X where there isn't and have an island where there's no island? Isn't there some kind of Service Level Agreement with the pilots, including a decent penalty clause for when the ship gets substantially delayed or damaged? (Besides Panama Canal). I mean, it's hard for HAL to insure against the costs of grounding (OBC, stressed Guest Relations, missed ports and excursions, Facebook and Twitter, inspections, fuel, and I must have missed most) as they hardly ever sail on the Amazon. It's much easier for the pilots to insure (and get paid for being insured) as they can show records for ship sizes, areas, seasons, whatever.
  14. Maybe the Captain found an innovative way to get his crew to exercise 🙂 Must have been a fun event. If ships ground so often on the Amazon, and you need pilots and then even they don't know what would happen because the charts are wrong just weeks after being made, doesn't that cost millions? And if so, why aren't there for instance "scouting boats" a few miles ahead for an up to date situation? One boat, one person sailing it, sending accurate levels of depth to the ship, the costs would seem nothing compared to a tanker being delayed substantially and maybe also needing tugs. For a cruise ship it could even be one of their own rescue boats with a sonar attached. (I'm not mentioning even cheaper aquatic drones, for reasons 😁) Or, to lower costs even more, the ships that do sail the Amazon anyway could send recent sonar data (provided they have sonar but they'd be paid for the precious data) to all the other ships. "Warning: point X was OK for us but it's 10ft deep now instead of the listed 30ft".
  15. Reading up a bit on the subject, I now realize how much calculation has gone into your numbers. Thank you again! Still wondering, as the difference between 10cm and 61cm isn't that big, what would happen if the passengers were asked to go to the front and then to get as fast as possible from to the back instead of a simple "please visit MDR". So the ship wouldn't only be tilted a bit but would be tilting until the water convinced it that it should return to 10-15cm, and the extra maybe even just enough to get lose. (I'm not asking for a ridiculous complicated calculation!)
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