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  1. Um, again for clarity, when you say things on a public forum, sometimes people will comment in response. Those people might not always be the person you were addressing in the first place. This is normal. There is a private message system to be used when you don't want anyone else talking to you. Where my confusion lies is why you have apparently gotten upset that someone agreed with you.
  2. I was answering your question - the one you posed in the part that I quoted. For clarity, I was not accusing *you* of misunderstanding.
  3. It's a complete misunderstanding of the actual findings. What the findings really say is that "some people who get respiratory diseases develop pneumonia." Yes, we knew that, and pneumonia is not permanent. This is not a special feature of CoVid-19.
  4. That's more reasonable than buying a year's supply of toilet paper like a bunch of people are doing. After all, if the public works department gets sick, the water might get turned off automatically if a computer detects a problem that no one is there to fix. On the other hand, it's fairly unlikely that we'll end up confined to our homes for an entire year... 😉
  5. Because the general public is terrible at statistics, and therefore sees cruise ships as, in the words of John Oliver, "floating petri dishes." When the noro ships were in the news, people got the mistaken impression that it's *common* for cruisers to get noro, not recognizing that there were a few hundred sick people in the news, but hundreds of thousands of cruisers who never got sick. But of course, no one's going to do a news story that says a vacationer remained healthy and enjoyed his vacation. 😉 In the wake of that, any time any disease starts circulating, the minute it shows up on a cruise ship - well, those disease factories must be the worst place to be, right?
  6. Frankly, I think people doing this is a great way to get Royal to walk back it's willingness to allow us to cancel up to 2 days before the cruise. Let's not abuse it when companies actually do the right thing, shall we?
  7. Statistically around 100. The unreported cases thing is a good point, but pretty much every disease mortality rate statistic has to deal with the same problem.
  8. Except the math doesn't work as well on shore days. Unless you're at one of the "private islands," your drink package doesn't follow you to shore. If you spend all day on land, then to "get your money's worth" you either need to slam a bunch of booze down that night, or drink more on average during sea days. Every single time we cruise my wife and I consider the beverage package, but for the amount we drink - - especially considering that stuff like wine pairings/etc aren't included - - it's just never made sense, even counting the coffee.
  9. You say he was clearly way over his limit, but you don't say how. Was he just acting goofy, or was he starting fights? If it's the former... Honestly as long as this isn't a daily habit for him off the ship, there's not much that can or should be done about it. He's a grownup and can overindulge from time to time if he wants to. It's a big ship. Leave him in the bar and go hang out in the solarium. If, on the other hand, he's starting fights or doing the other obnoxious things that mean drunks do, then it *is* a problem that should have been addressed, preferably the morning of day 2 when he might be at least partially sober. "Knock it off or this is your last invite to a mutual vacation." And then see above about the big ship and going somewhere he isn't. And if it's a daily thing off the ship as well, he needs professional help that you can't be expected to provide.
  10. They didn't really have cruise ships the way we think of them now during the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic, but the SS Talune is relatively famous for having been the subject of an influenza quarantine, yes. And when it docked in Western Samoa and its master neglected to tell local authorities that it had been quarantined at its last port of call, the locals let people off, and they spread the flu virus to the whole area and killed off 22% of the population. And during that outbreak here in the US, public places including schools were closed nationwide, public gatherings were banned, and they didn't play soccer games in front of no fans because the athletes weren't allowed to congregate together either. Kansas City even banned most weddings and funerals. And btw, that strain had a 10-20% mortality rate, which blows Corvid-19 out of the water.
  11. Mortality rate refers to people who die from the disease, and is limited to people with the disease. In other words, if 100 people get Disease X, and it has a mortality rate of 100%, that doesn't mean the whole world dies, it means 100 people die.
  12. As I understand it, they won't cover you (unless you have cancel for any reason coverage) if *you* choose not to go because you are afraid of getting sick. But if you can't go because of Corona-related reasons outside of your control (ex: your flight is cancelled because the airlines decide to quit flying to Florida so you can't get to the ship, or you miss half your vacation because you can't go to your next destination because the ship is under quarantine), then you're covered. Beyond that, I agree with you entirely. I'm not afraid of getting sick. I'm mildly concerned that some aspects of my upcoming March cruise will be impacted because of needless panic. I've seen 3 (might be more by now) cases where Caribbean islands have refused to allow ships to dock because someone on board had flu-like symptoms. Well, I mean, there are more than 5,000 people on that boat. *Someone* is always going to have a cough. It'll be annoying if shore days get cancelled out of needless fear.
  13. I don't have any one specific line in the sand. I treat my approach to sailing with Royal the same way I treat my approach to anything else I spend money on. After it's done, did I get my money's worth? I'm a somewhat sporadic visitor to these forums. I tend to show up when I have a cruise within the next 6 months, and then I read a bunch of stuff to see what's changed. And like clockwork, I start thinking "yeah, if everything that's being said here happens to me, I'll probably book another line next time." But then I get on board and have a great time, and often end up booking another one before I get off the ship. Part of that is that I'm relatively easy to please. Put a ridiculous drink in my hand and stick me in a lounger in the Solarium with a Kindle, and intersperse that with regular feedings and I'm pretty happy. I avoid most of the money traps. I only walk through the promenade on my way from one end of the ship to the other, and I don't stop at the stupid watch "sale," nor do I buy gold chains by the foot because I am not (regrettably) Mr. T. Basically, I tend to avoid a lot of the stuff that generates complaints around here in the first place, and so it doesn't impact my vacation one way or another. My chief complaint is that I have yet to find a Royal bartender who can make a decent Old Fashioned. 😉 To get me to stop sailing with Royal, they'd have to reduce their value to me below what I paid for the trip. They're getting closer to that point with every sailing, but they haven't reached it yet. As they tend to sail full, I'm probably in the same boat as most of their customers - at some point they will drop below a value point and a whole lot of us will book elsewhere, and then Royal will bump things back up to recapture us, which may or may not work.
  14. Excellent. Thanks! I knew having to have my own mask for prescription lenses would come in handy some day. 😉
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