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  1. 15 minutes ago, hal2008 said:

    "No cases on board".   No guarantee of that.

     

     

    For the majority of ships, actually yes you can guarentee it. 

    As I said, many have been in isolation since March, have temperature checks twice a day and no cases onboard! Unless the virus apparates onto the ship...

     

     

    I would understand the CDC a little bit more  if the US had been successful like Aus or NZ, but clearly they're not and a lot of Americans dont care either...

     

     

    Keep reading the Miami Herald and Jim Walker 😂

     


  2. 2 minutes ago, hal2008 said:

     

    They were NOT ridiculous.

     

    CDC considers crew of cruise line very high risk and do not want them to spread possible infection to US population.

    But once crew is outside jurisdiction of USA, why on earth would CDC care?

     

    Just pause for a second and think.

     

    To think that, that piece of reporting could be true IS ridiculous.

     

    Yeah they were. 

     

    These crew have been in isolation for weeks. No one on, no one off, (and the majority of ships)  no cases on board. They have not set foot on land since March!

     

    For ships that have had cases onboard they could enforce things. But for the most, the CDC were just being ridiculous.

     

     

    If anything, the crew are way more at risk setting foot in the US, than the US is from these crew members. It's not like the US has zero spread of the virus is it...

     

    But you keep believing whatever makes you happy...


  3. 1 hour ago, EscapeFromConnecticut said:

    https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/business/tourism-cruises/article242443236.html
     

    Seems like Fain & his exec troops are ducking and dodging again.

      Note that the CDC says it is "disappointed" with cruise lines ... And that "their answers  not aligned with the public health needs" .... and that it only barely stops short of using the word "liars" ...

       None of the speaks well CLIA's work, Fain's attitude or RCI's chances to catch any regulatory breaks in the future. Stockholders really bonused this guy with $14 million and he's too cheap to get his crew home safely when the world is watching?

     

    This article is 3 days old and pre-repatriation announcement. 

     

    Tbh, in my opinion, the CDC requirements are/were making it too difficult (without even bringing cost and money into it) for cruise lines to debark their crew. 


  4. 8 hours ago, mac_tlc said:

    Not clear if the crew of these ships will also be part of the repatriation. That would be a big indicator. If all crew are going home, then even Royal thinks it’s going to be a long time before cruises resume. If they keep the crew on those ships, they may be holding out hope to start sooner. I’m any event, it ain’t June 12th. 
     

    Isn’t it about time for another cancellation announcement this week? 😜

     

    mac_tlc

     

    Those crew are going home. At least Mariner, so I assume symphony too. 

     

    While it probably is an indicator that they wont be cruising any time soon, there will also be crew that need to go home: if they were half way through a contract when this started, then months onbaord in quarantine, the actually wouldn't have long (even if cruises started back tomorrow) until they would have to go home. Its better to send as many home as possible and then have a bigger number of 'fresh' crew for when it all starts again, rather than have the craziness of starting cruises and then signing off a fleet load of crew in the first few weeks. 

     

    As former crew, I also dont think I'd adjust well and give the best service cruisers want/expect after months in isolation and then being thrown right back into work with no break and escape in between. 


  5. 4 hours ago, livingonthebeach said:

     

    The CDC holds an entirely different opinion when it comes to the spread of Covid19 that the CLIA so vehemently denies.  Below is a list of infected ships and that's not counting the ships overseas with no US stops such as the Diamond Princess quarantined off of Yokohama last month. 


    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/cruise-ship/what-cdc-is-doing.html

     

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    You conveniently cut off the bottom bit of that page...

    Only the ships with an asterisk next to it are ships that actively had cases onboard. 

    The other ships on the list who had people on them who reported symptoms within 14 days of returing from them, so nobody can say for sure if they are/were "infected ships" or not...

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  6. 1 hour ago, cgncruiser said:

    Nobody wants your darn rare Australian ventilation machines. Crew and guests only wanted to fly home immediately. A convoy to the airports would have done Australia and NZ a better deal. Now the world has seen your inhumanity and ugly government which you have elected.

    Tourists are being refrained from repatriation and are locked in a country they do not want to stay in. My air force was standing by and my national carrier on the expense of my government were not allowed to land in Australia and NZ to pick up stranded tourists and crew. The air force had converted 2 A310 to ICU version to get the sick home- Australia did not allow. 15000 of my countrymen in Australia and 10000 in NZ are locked up even 3 weeks after the outbreak. 

    Yesterday finally NZ allowed 3 national A380 and 3 B747 to land and pick up  tourists after a long diplomatic spat.

    So do not wine about your ventilation machines just let the people fly home and that includes the crew that has pampered you guys during the happy day sailings.

    Australia is a shame and it takes a long time to re-build reputation.

     

    It's not just tourists. They wont let their own Australian crew get off the ships, crew that had just been giving Australian's free cruises...


  7. 5 minutes ago, Starry Eyes said:

    Crew?  The article discusses the crew’s crowded living conditions, but once passengers disembark, crew can be spread out into passenger cabins, so no more crowding as soon as passenger disembarkation is handled.  By delaying, those authorities are exacerbating the crowding issue they lament.

     

    Evidently the authorities are not even willing to repatriate Australians at this point.  That is so sad.  And really how should Australian citizens near the US shore expect to be treated if there are US citizens are indefinitely stuck on ships near the Australian shore?

     

    This. They have one crew to a guest cabin and they're eating in the windjammer (when not in isolation) 

     

    And I know for a fact that royal have sent home a lot of their crew over there!


  8. Some facts about the HAL ship: 

     

    311 US citizens onboard

    52 Florida residents 

    4 under the age of 12

     

     

    45 will remain onboard in isolation. 

    Less than 10 will need immediate medical attention, which has been arranged for them. 

    The rest who are fit to travel will be transported by coach, meeting requirements above what the CDC asks for, to (mostly charter) flights home. 


  9. 3 hours ago, NancyIL said:

    Regarding sending home only crew whose contracts are ending - the mother of an Anthem crew member posted on social media that  her daughter has 2 months left on her contract, and some of her friends have 4 months left. They are sending production, youth staff, cruise division staff, sports staff,  most of wait staff and room attendants and bar staff home.

     

    By the way - Anthem is scheduled for an April 12 Transatlantic cruise from Cape Liberty to Southampton. 

     

    This. I've mentioned this in a few threads that it's not just crew at the end of their contracts! 

    I personally know 2 crew on 2 different ships who do 2 different jobs who have gone home within 3 weeks of their contracts starting....


  10. 21 minutes ago, smalltimecruiser100 said:

    What happens if an Italian crew member goes home and when it reopens brings the virus back to the ship?

     

    When all the Jewel crew went home, Italians were allowed to stay onboard. 

     

    But the virus is everywhere so any crew member could go home and bring it back to the ship...


  11. 1 hour ago, not-enough-cruising said:

    The childcare staff on board do not make $3-$4 an hour (in 2017 my daughter did a “tour” on Royal after graduating with her bachelors in early childhood development. I believe she was paid $16 an hour for that period of time).

     

    Entertainment staff on board are paid on scale as dictated by several different entertainment unions. 

     

    $16 an hour! On board! 😂😂😂😂

    I've been underpaid the last 5 years then! 

    If she worked out how much she got paid, and how many hours she actually worked, then yes, it can be as low as $3-$4 an hour

     

    No company pays that much for youth staff!


  12. 12 hours ago, blackjack24 said:

    One of my friends on board messaged and said all crew and entertainers are staying on the ship for 30 days. He said a lot of the regular crew are happy because it will be like a paid vacation. 

     

    Not on all ships. 

    I have friends onboard too. And some of them already have their flight schedules homes and some on other ships have been extended to stay. 


  13. 13 minutes ago, blackjack24 said:

    I feel for all of the employees and entertainers on the ships. I've made some friends on Royal ships and keep in touch with them and they were of course worried about the virus but also wanted to be able to finish their contract to make money. What will Royal do with them now? I know they must go home or somewhere but I assume they will not be paid and then are they just expected to return to finish their contracts? 

     

    A lot are going home, some already have their flight schedules. 

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