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  1. Was hoping to go to Portugal and Tenerife in September and November both may be scuppered. UK fully booked over summer. Don't know when we can get back to south Africa, visit to son in Australia is off, so playing everything by ear. Don't know when we can plan ahead with any certainty , so money doing nothing, if this goes on for years may have to leave it to kids Only one definite, No cruises till 2023
  2. The quest for the younger demographic is common, a function of a misconception by the young an innumerate marketing departments with no understanding of The economics and demographics . The so called elderly is the fastest growing demographic in the world. The well off "elderly" have far more disposable income than the young/middle aged. We are the only people with the time and more importantly spare money for multiple cruises every year in year out. Let carnival chase the young. Hopefully a new buyer will snap up Cunard and Seabourn, someone who understands what the biggest and wealthiest demographic want. No more dilution of standards.
  3. New quarantine annoucement from government anyone who travels by anything but bike will have to stay home for 3 months.
  4. I don't know where knowthescore gets his/her information from , but vaccinated people do not spread viruses. When you catch a virus you start off with a small viral load which multiplies rapidly in unvaccinated people who then spread it, sometimes before they show symptoms. If a vaccination works fully then in vaccinated people the antibodies and T cells attack the initial virus, the viral load never builds up enough for people to either spread it or become ill. Even if a vaccination only partially works it reduces the severity and also the viral load, which will reduce spread. That's why we have vaccination to protect both individuals and others. Another bit of doom laden misinformation .
  5. Problem is that joining a trial invalidates travel insurance.
  6. I will be first in queue for the vaccination if I can. Vaccination is not just for yourself but to protect everyone else. it should be a free choice, get vaccinated or stay home.
  7. We will just have to wait till the 125% FCC works it's way out of the system. All cruise lines are increasing prices to recoup the 25% "gift". Cash buyers will have to wait till 23/24 season or be fleeced.
  8. We went on a CMV ship once, the Astor was sailing from Capetown to UK at beginning of April, perfect time. Only 3 rooms with balconies, the 3 suites at the front they'd added on. The Astor suite was fabulous twice the size of a p&O suite, with a huge deck and pretty good condition. No other perks at all. Had a good cruise the ship was full of Australian grandparents coming back to see their families, really friendly. The entertainment was good, , basically their own, all from the same eastern European music academy. But the ship in general was no where near P&O standards, definitely in need of TCL, food average at best. Except for 3 new suites all other cabins smaller than P&O. If Astor is typical then CMV ships are well below P&O standard, and expect below Fred's. Even though ships would be cheap would cost alot to get up to standard. So doubt carnival would contemplate them. Doubtful if much overlap with passenger profile, none if P&O has to reduce numbers and not sell smallest cabins.
  9. As someone said FCO advice is a ban as it invalidates insurance. If cruise ships aren't going to spread the virus more than say pubs, then don't think its the government's job to tell me what risks I should take. I'm not cruising not because I don't think it will be safe which is questionable (but I'm not going to pub even though I'm a fit no pre existing condition 70 Year old) , but MORE because cruising certainly won't be nice with all the guidelines and distancing.. I am risking short haul 2hr flight we like the sun, planes are much safer than cruise ships or even your local supermarket. Everyone has masks, hepa filtered air, and take plenty of hand sanitiser. My holidays for next few years , Small/medium hotels with large grounds, rooms with large terraces, and restaurants with much more capacity than hotel guests so plenty of space. Hopefully by 2023 cruises will be back to normal experience and normal prices.
  10. Someone suggested in another thread that one way to solve the numbers/overcrowding issue in cruise ships was for the FCO to go back to advising against over 70s cruising Given that it's not age itself that the cause of the high death rate for over 70s but the high prevalence of pre-existing conditions in the over 70s that is the cause of high death rate. This would be illegal age discrimination. Perhaps FCO should advise against people with the known pre-existing conditions of any age against travelling not pick on the over 70s.
  11. Given the evidence that it's not age itself that is the cause of high death rates in over 70s, but it us the high prevalence of pre-existing conditions in the over 70s that is the cause of the high death rate. Banning the fit over 70s would be seen as illegal age discrimination. If the FCO advised anyone with the pre-existing conditions they know put you at high risk not to cruise never mind age then that would not be age discrimination.
  12. How do we choose a cruise, 3 factors 1) Prefer UK Southampton departure , don't mind flying, indeed have booked European holidays for winter, Portugal (fingers crossed) and Tenerife. Expect to stick to small hotels with large rooms , with large terraces and lots of outside space for next few years. Really Looking forward to driving to Southampton, and getting on ship in 15mins of arriving 2) Destination intinary 3) Cabin , we like a midships suite. Given this All the cruises we want are fully booked for 2021 and I expect that the 2022 cruises will be grabbed by people using FCC. Prices will rise by 25%. So can't see us cruising till 2023, by the time 2023 cruises are launched hopefully there will be signs cruises are returning to normal. Hope so a my wife has bought new dresses for cruises we never went on. However if Cruises follow antisocial guidelines, no shared tables etc , will have to give cruises a miss
  13. Looks like another potential nail in the coffin.
  14. I think Harry is logical but also brave. The Question is the market logical and where is all this money from the magic money trees going to end up, history says higher asset values, but the past may not repeat itself. I note outside of the travel and hospitality industries (which includes aerospace) most of the companies going yo the wall were those whose future was doubtful any way, e.g retail . As for leisure, the long term trend is positive, but holidays may change. I think those that can afford it will opt for much more personal space. Small hotels , small ships but with more space per person will flourish. The big mega ships and mega all inclusive hotels , will have problems everyone looking for space. So like someone earlier said , cruises may revert to the past. As for investment anyone's guess, but the good companies will survive and flourish, poor ones will go to wall faster
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