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  1. I was watching a youtube video from a cruise line staff audio and lighting tech and they were choosing to stay on their ship versus going home. This was a couple weeks ago and haven't watched any of his vids since but they were staying in a regular passenger cabin, had free internet, free food and were receiving a small payment from the cruise line. During the video they indicated there was nothing for them to do at home and would have to make housing arrangements etc. They looked to be having a good time. Although most of the ship was closed, not sure if that would be my decision.
  2. Looks like Floridians don't know how to count https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/fox-35-investigates-florida-department-of-health-says-some-labs-have-not-reported-negative-covid-19-results
  3. Everyone is really all over the place on this topic and no one knows for sure. Two Fantasy class ships serve Long Beach and are ALWAYS full. Some speculate that they may decommission them for the Miracle\Splendor etc. But those the Inspiration Imagination fit a niche for first time cruisers and low price point. We take the three and four day cruise several times a year. The ships are always full. I doubt they get rid of those itineraries from the west coast any time soon much less taking both of the Fantasy class ships from Long Beach. (Well, maybe one but that's TBD)
  4. Sad to hear the Fantasy being decommissioned. We cruised on her out of Charleston and had a great time. Despite it being spring break, most of the college kids were respectful. I remember being that young and dumb so we took it with a grain of salt. Some fun memories for sure on that ship.
  5. New England Journal of Medicine says masks do nothing to protect us.... We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. Focusing on universal masking alone may, paradoxically, lead to more transmission of Covid-19 if it diverts attention from implementing more fundamental infection-control measures. http://archive.is/DatC5
  6. Agree 100%. Those who are at a greater risk should be prioritized. Sadly, here in CA, Newsom thinks it's better to bust bars and restaurants and ban people from the beach than go after those who most need the prioritized care. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/california/articles/2020-07-09/la-nursing-home-accused-of-dumping-patients-amid-virus And hypothetically , should cruising resume in Oct, Nov...whenever, I hope no one over 65 are on those ships.
  7. So what then....stay at home orders go in place....numbers drop...How long do you propose we continue to tank our economy and stay closed? You offering to kick in funds for my wife's unemployment? So we open things back up again....infection numbers will go up again. I think you've said before you are retired. Must be nice, but some of us have jobs, responsibilities, lives.
  8. An MD could probably define levels of contagiousness but I did find this....https://www.healthgrades.com/right-care/infections-and-contagious-diseases/8-highly-contagious-diseases-you-should-know-about Tuberculosis (TB) TB is a relatively rare disease in the United States, but it’s common in other parts of the world and is highly contagious. TB is caused by a bacterium that attacks the lungs and causes coughing, chest pain, and other symptoms. Left untreated, it can be deadly. TB bacteria are released into the air when a person with TB coughs, sneezes or speaks. You can become infected simply by breathing in the contaminated air. If you think you may have been exposed, contact your doctor about testing. If you are infected, there is medicine to prevent the infection from getting worse.
  9. Then everyone on these boards should clutch their masks, hide in their homes, stay home from work, and pray for a vaccine.
  10. You can believe the press if you'd like but the death rate is minimal based on population. More people die from TB across the globe every year but when there is a TB outbreak (as there always is in San Diego with our proximity to Mexico) we don't lose our ***** and shutdown an entire economy. People need to make their own decisions. Sure, protect the senior living facilities and retirement homes but in CA, more people between the ages of 18-45 have killed themselves as a result of quarantines than have died from Covid. So California is pretty much shut down now, the infection rate is not going to go down because testing is through the roof. Which is a good thing. But even when you reopen, you will see another surge. Just like we see a surge of flu during the winter. It's the nature of things. And masks are feel good techniques that do nothing. Washing your hands are what works. And finally, California hospitals are no where near capacity. And have never even been close. I just had elective surgery last week. New cases are not overwhelming the facilities. If you are an older person, sure, feel free to stay home. I don't really care what you do
  11. We're not getting herd immunity because idiot politicians think it's better to keep us isolated. We're going to see nothing but new surges because as we close-open-close-open, that leads to nothing but the numbers going up and down.
  12. I've hit 15 by simply enjoying the drinks and taking my time. It will usually happen if the wife and I are up late at the piano bar or just hanging out past 1am.
  13. Kicking myself for buying at $24. If you purchased at it's low of 7$, you've now doubled your money. Love me some capitolism!
  14. Cruising may not be important to some of those countries but it is surely big for some of the cities they serve. Catalina is suffering terrible losses from no ships. Bar Harbor in Maine during the summer makes almost all of it's money from cruises. Not to mention Alaska. Their state government is handing out additional stimulant money to offset the monies lost from the cruises not coming.
  15. They can't be that intelligent. The virus can't live in a chlorinated pool so closing pools is stupid to say the least.
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