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  1. "Well, someone is getting bad information. " I assume you mean me, as luvsmickey has booked and paid for PE it is not likely them who has it wrong. That said, PE is not currently offered on any O cruises, currently; at least not for Canadians. Unfortunately O, unlike some other cruise lines, now forces us to see offerings priced in CDN $. Other lets us choose. Or their search engine is broken. I did see PE offered on an itinerary a couple of weeks back so was surprised to see them all gone now that I went to book. Can't tell of course when "just booked" was for luvsmickey, maybe "just today" or maybe "just recently" and perhaps that was when I was looking a couple of weeks back. Maybe this is O's regional thing and they are available for USA customers but not for me. I don't expect that though being as we have similar air offerings from the airlines. Does not really matter. Zero available now for me. Argh. As proof I included a screen shot of O "specials" and on the PE page showing "0 matches" but CC is not adding it to the post. it does show it as an uploaded image as I edit but not when submitted.
  2. Finally decided to make the leap and place a booking for a cruise. Wanted a TA followed by a couple of weeks touring and flight home. A significant part of O's value equation for us is the included air with PE upgrade on trans-Atlantics. It is far too long of a flight back to the west coast to fly in economy. However, the PE upgrade offers have all been removed. I suspect O is struggling with the airline unknowns but this stopped us from booking today. Airlines still price International one-way air the stupid-scale; I refuse to pay as much or more than a return ticket or play the "throw away the 2nd half of the ticket" game. We looked at a return via another cruise line but I think only Cunard runs TAs to NA in the spring and their schedule either departs a day before disembarkation or 6 weeks after which is too long a gap for us. I looked at Cunard's spring 2021 schedule as it would be more complete than 2022 hoping that a suitable 2021 date might later be offered for 2022 but no joy. There might be another cruise line with a TA to Europe that the timing with a return on Cunard would work. Will look into that - not an Oceania cruise but maybe time to try something new to me. O has Insignia coming back to NA in the Spring 2021 but I suspect that is an anomaly with the Covid redeployment scheduling and not likely in 2022. Disappointed our attempt to book a cruise on O has been foiled after so much waiting and handwringing. I enjoy a cruise with O and wanted to support them so will check back in a few months as this pandemic continues to evolve. Maybe we'll end up skipping the cruise and just do an extended land trip, that is DW preference anyway and the "locals" would be happy to have some bookings too. I'll just have to continue to be patient and keep an eye out for O to add the promotion again. Anyway just want to post a heads-up that PE upgrade is no longer on offer.
  3. When reading the benefits of PH on a O ship I would skip over the walk-in closet - who really cares. Now after enjoying the cabin - I do! It is like a small separate change room surrounded by ones clothes.
  4. As per Seatrade "More than 200,000 seafarers remain stranded at sea, according to ILO. Though not specified, tens of thousands of crew are still believed to be stuck aboard cruise ships around the world. " The good news is that thirteen nations pledge action on stranded seafarers and are urging all IMO states to accept seafarers as 'key workers' who should be permitted to cross borders and access commercial flights. Many of those nations pushing for this are European so hopefully crew will be getting home soon.
  5. I'm back after a bit of a break and did some catching up. After what I have read on some other threads I am ... speechless. So have nothing to add at this point other than to say thanks Paulchili for starting this thread and hopefully COVID-19 related posts will indeed be posted here so we can read of other cruising related issues without the rest of it.
  6. It will be an FCC, not cash. Think of it this way; originally you had the choice of a refund to the original form of payment (which is usual procedure for refunds, not just cruises [though some airlines are fighting on that]) or a FCC. And now still have the same choice but they are the same thing, a FCC. You paid for this cruise with a FCC so get "refunded" with an FCC. In effect when you accepted the FCC as compensation for the cancelled cruise you converted the cash into a credit in return for a 25% bonus. I hope TAs pointed this out when having the FCC or refund request discussion with clients when when a cruise is cancelled. If YOU then cancel the cruise the FCC *might* retain the original date (some CLs I believe do that - I don't know O's current policy (and bear in mind, things change, and change again.)) If THEY cancel I expect it to get a new date. So the "wait until the cruise line blinks first" could be the better strategy once again. Things like this is where your TA is a good resource, or should be.
  7. A poster who at one time on several threads wrote about how he would self insure and save mega bucks - so those who bought insurance were doing it wrong. Some time later the other shoe dropped where he posted that he had this great medical insurance so he was insured after all (but not as a separate policy for travel.) Granted it does not cover trip cancel etc. but saying how smart it is to self insure when already has super medical coverage is disingenuous. Some of us mostly purchase insurance for medical coverage as that is where the virtually unlimited loss can be, Moral of the story is take everything you read with a grain of salt (passing the shaker as you read this too)
  8. Mar 30 cruise cancelled by O. Requested refund about Mar 21. Used two CC for different things. Ancillary purchases such as PE Air, etc. Also had on board booking deposit. So some complexity. Received 6 credits over two days earlier this week. Note it took one of the CC 3 days to post the transaction from when they received it (so showed up one day and appeared to be back dated - nothing is normal). I have not received all the money, short about 6%. The smaller amounts I can assign to the different purchases but the two that would be to cover the main part of the cruise make no sense (in fact contain cents in the amount while O only charges in whole dollars). I will wait until next week to see if the balance arrived before start to chase it down. (does not equate to fees, commissions, taxes, etc. as per agency) My thoughts of the apparent randomness of who gets what/when 1. The very earlier first set of cancellations where fairly quick as there were few. Misleading that it was for say, April cruise, because perhaps part of the ATW so the whole thing was cancelled before the say the early sailing date of ours in March 2. The next group was done quite close to sailing date, i.e Mar 30 which I think was the first of the next wave was cancelled around mid March. Those and the next wave we while O was still working out not just the process to cancel, but also the policies and trying to assess when they might be sailing again. Think back to how fast moving the situation was. So all those are a mess. They are in some queue of random order. 3. Next wave and more recent cancellations are in a more streamlined / organized process. So there might be some processed sooner than older ones 4. I believe it is to be essentially processed by sailing date, not cancellation date, loyalty level (unless you get individual recognition from a call) though the bunch in the 2nd wave could be out of order. A couple of weeks back I called to check on status of mine and the CSR did see it but had no info. However, based on a bit of a pause that followed an "oh..." I think it was in that jumbled up queue. *maybe* that moved it into a "normal" queue. Anyway, all that is just speculation. I also wonder if the order might be based on reverse alphabetically on middle name of the second guest. Just wanted to report back on my refund status. Every day that I waited for the refund I thought of taking another cruise. One moment glad I requested the refund (for my own confidence and unsure when I can cruise again) and the next moment whishing I had taken the FCC as I want to book one for 2022. Why cant I have it both ways? Anyway, problem solved as I now have (most) of the refund
  9. Think I have spent too much time on this board so out of here for a while . Going spend some time to watch some ingenious, inspiring, fun, positive people's videos. I need a break. Maybe I'll snake the kitchen sink. good luck to all
  10. assuming immunity lasts - not a known yet, see reports of possible re-occurrence, and possible mutation as has been speculated (again not known) and not known of long term effects, i.e. reports of possible organ and neurological damage. And you'd isolate yourself immediately upon exposure so as to not infect others. Maybe you'll get an infected person come to your home? And if you do develop symptoms in this effort to free yourself to travel who will care for you? I would not expect a welcome spot in the hospital if this was self-inflicted. Maybe like minded volunteers who want to become exposed could care for others who self-infected. Benefit is no PPE is wasted. A few might die and so maybe have some sort of agreement. Taking a risk with your life is one thing but risking others is another. Using your driving example it is like driving quickly, recklessly down the road to get to work because you want to, or driving drunk because you choose to enjoy life and have some drinks, or wanting to have a day at the beach because simply wanting to have a day at the beach, risks others. And perhaps those you potentially leave behind will understand and not miss you when your gone, or maybe they will say, she live and died on her terms. Just don't risk anyone else's life whether or not you agree with their choice to shake in fear, be responsible to society as a whole and try to stay safe.
  11. Thanks for your summary. Trust your analysis.
  12. Not spending time on other boards, this one is too much at times for me, but I agree there will be major announcements next week. My crystal ball though does not seem to have the same reach to predict when O will announce as your statement.
  13. I was thinking I might post the same link, roger then I noticed Cintpam commenting on your post. I had missed yours as there are so many posts on so many threads now. I have been following financial news (elsewhere) and while the money side of it has speculation too but certainly seems that CCLs position is best. I thought the article you linked to had some good both sides points and was more upbeat with the stories of those who are eager to sail.
  14. Don't mean to dampen your spirits and not saying these things will come to pass or affect your and your situation but in this dynamic and new economic situation, things can change unexpectedly. The laws that apply could change, or their interpretation. I honestly don't know the law (or laws) that would be applied. More than one law or set of regulations could conflict and well... that is what courts are for. An example is with airline refunds. The airlines T & Cs said that in a certain set of conditions they will give refunds but they changed to only give credits instead. USA and EUR regulators ruled that the airlines must give refunds. USA regulators included international carriers if they flew to USA. Canada's air transport regulators just a few days prior to that ruled that the current situation could not have been foreseen when the regs were written requiring refunds and as force majeure they consider credits sufficient. And were does that leave a CDN pax flying from Toronto to Miami on say, Air Canada? What a mess. I hope Canada will come into line with EUR and USA. Point is rules might not be what they seems to be or were. Lawyers are busy I think. Yes, for me that is a big benefit of having purchased insurance and then get an FCC. If your insurance provider allows the policy to "follow" the FCC then not just saving the cost of the insurance but you might be covered *now* - so depending on when you bought the policy you *might* have covid-19 coverage yet new policies do not, already have preexisting condition waiver, etc. Coverage is very specific to your policy and interpretations and your insurer's governing body (ours just clarified its position on a rule last week that is not trivial to my claim :{ ) I cannot speak to anyone's policy or coverage other than my own so you should get advice from your insurer but this could be a good benefit. +1
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