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It is in the discussion of Crystal Cruises Bankruptcy Exchange. There is an interesting discussion going on there. I cannot link it. I believe it is a private group. You are right, that actually one would have to waive the rights to claim. So I guess this is not going to happen. Ivi

Oh, Oh, Oh… I am reading very disturbing posts on the social media that covers Crystal bankruptcy. Some body mentions that if we apply for this NC initiative we will loose our right to a monetary refund from the Assignees. Can someone clarify if this is the case. I do not recall having seeing this in the terms and conditions of NC offer. Ivi

I keep watching the posts on this thread because of the title and I have realized that the last ones are really off topic and some of them fun. Maybe they should be moved to the Bistro off topic thread? Ivi

No worries Mariners. I was not thinking about you when I mentioned the minimizing/criticizing/relativizing. Ivi

What shall be common knowledge? That MSC charges you and not refunds? I have never heard about it. Ivi

Since COVID, we are having more difficulties to accept the crowds that the non Yacht Club experience means. Tables too close to each other in the main dining room. Even on those cases in which the ship is not full, dining feels so crowded because MSC does not open up all areas in the restaurant. They keep us very close together. The only time we got COVID on a ship, was on MSC, sailing on a balcony cabin fantastica. Fortunately it was immediately after disembarking and not in the middle of the cruise. Ivi

In which ships is there this infinity window? Ivi

Thanks for your updates. This sailing from or to Lisabon worries me. Do you know ( or does someone know if the Azamara ships have stabilizers? Ivi

Thanks Keith. It is helpful. Ivi

IMHO there is only a small group of people who post here. Much less then those who post in other media forums. The topic was about what New Crystal is doing to attract those past guests who have been deceived by Original Crystal. Some of us are in this situation. We post because we are talking about a thing that concerns us. Some posters are not OC creditors but still post here criticizing/minimizing/relativizing what posters with genuine interest have to say. It is about this last category of posters which I wonder. Is there a need to give an opinion about everything? Ivi

This is true and general for everything but no one is expecting that they make everybody happy. Ivi

Why do you think they will never come back no matter the offer? Because they do not like the product? Because they feel that they were so deceived that it is hard to get them back? As far as I see most people are interested to try the New Crystal if prices are right and if it delivers what is offering : Excellence. Ivi

Thanks Keith. So my previous deleted comment was not so wrong after all. Why does NC tie this goodwill offer to the work of Moecker if the New Crystal does not have anything to do with the work being done from the Assignees, who are acting on behalf of the Original Crystal? It makes this offer less attractive and implies waiting until Moecker finish his work. Who knows when that will really happen. Will it happen before the End of July this year? How come NC which is a totally different company is going to get access to the amount that Moecker will refund to each one of us? As far as I recall Anderson said they did not have that information. How are they going to get it now? I do not like the mixing of things. Ivi

This is not for sure. Keith is asking. Ivi

I am sorry Keith. I understood you that you have asked and the answer was your previous post. A misunderstanding from my part. I will delete my post. Ivi

Actually I am waiting to see how Explora 1 is going to reposition from Vancouver to Europe. There could be a couple of interesting itineraries there. Ivi

Wow amazing review 👍 thanks! Ivi

Now I am not sure I get it. If we book our first cruise by July 31st and we do not receive anything from Moecker, will NC give us a discount of 1/5 of what OC owed us? Or will NC wait until Moecker finish its work first instead of giving us the discount at the time of booking? Ivi

I am not sure if I see it right but it is not a 20% discount of the cruise price what they are offering. It is 1/5 of the amount that the OC owed us to be applied as a discount for the the first five cruises we book with the new Crystal. Example: if Original Crystal owes us USD 10.000 then 1/5 is US 2000. if I find a cruise that costs US 6000 then US 6000 minus US 2000, the price I will have to pay it is US 4000. In this case the discount for my cruise will be 33%. If the new cruise I am trying to book costs US 20000, my discount is still US 2000. This means I will pay US 18.000. In terms of percentage, the discount will be in this case 10%. IMHO, I am glad the New Crystal is doing something. Ivi

I have also changed travel advisors and I have put the name of the new one. Because I would like that my new travel advisor do the new bookings for me and I do not wish to be contacted directly by a NC representative. Ivi

I understand that our amount due will be divided among 5. This means that for the first five cruises we book with NC we will have a discount in the amount of our credit for each cruise. For example if Crystal owes us US 10.000, then for the first five cruises we book, the price of each cruise will be reduced in US 2000. It is an intelligent move from NC to get us back. I have an incentive to look for future cruises with NC but this incentive as welcome as it is, it is not decisive. If I find an itinerary I like, at a per diem I find acceptable, I will make my bookings. Ivi

Thanks Keith, I have also been able to submit to the New Crystal for this initiative because in the Email to Moecker the info was provided. No confirmation email came about this submission from NC but in their web page it told me my application for this initiative was received. Now I understand we have to make our first booking by the end of July 2023 but we can sail until end of December 2025. Is this correct? Ivi

Which form from Moecker? I remember we have filed a complain by Email. Was there also a form? Ivi

It would be great. I have experienced Starlink in my last cruise on an Azamara ship. The cruise was to the Patagonia and the Falklands. Remote places actually. Internet connection was great at speeds that we do not even get at hime with our local provider. Ivi