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  1. Gambling adds another component to the restart. There will be those pax who choose to cruise in order to play. Keeping the casino area clean and disinfected will present its own set of problems.
  2. Well said...thank you. It will be interesting to see which cruise line jumps off first. My money is on Carnival. Who knows...maybe they will promote cruises for those under 50 since they seem to be able to survive the virus.
  3. New York Times March 13th. The antibody question is most likely the key to restart cruising.
  4. Now that we have covered the entire gamut of Covid models can we get back to the main topic?
  5. The so-called experts predicted 3 million deaths...they were wrong.
  6. Sorry but so many of these doctors have been wrong. Their predictions of gloom and doom were rampant...hundreds of thousands were going to die and hospitals were going to be over-run and unable to cope. Some of us can see more positive solutions on the horizon and some of us will stay home until the CV 19 has disappeared entirely. I’m not even remotely concerned with what Gwyneth Paltrow would do.
  7. If the cruise lines mitigate too long they will be gone anyhow. Again everyone seems to be dealing with what was. If a cruise line starts up again you can be sure they will have protocols for immediate evacuation with a prearranged agreement for hospitalization. Again...we need to think creatively. Cruise lines are not going to allow a repeat of the Princess debacle where sick pax were held onboard and allowed to infect everyone else. Understand...we are still learning about CV 19 and we are just now starting to come up with tests, remedies and vaccines. I realize that a lot of you are dejected and feeling like cruising is over. Believe me...I have learned in the past three years to develop a positive mind set and shake off the negativity. We all need to believe that we are going to cruise again!!
  8. Of course the so-called expert claims it won’t work. They are talking about what is available currently. What they don’t tell you is that THERE WAS NO 5 MINUTE TEST 2 MONTHS AGO. Advanced technology will give us a 5 minute test that will show asymptomatic people. I would guess that would be just months from now. The world is full of nay-sayers and short on doers. Those of us who love to cruise are going to have to think creatively. There will be a level of risk and those who do not want to accept that level of risk can simply stay home and wait. Those of us who are willing can take a chance and press on. People who are under 60 will probably start cruising sooner than later.
  9. My point exactly...the ship could not land at a port and allow the pax to wander off. Once you have an entire ship testing negative you cannot expose them to a general population on an island or port. If the pax get off the ship they will need to protected from infection. They will also need to be tested periodically when onboard. I don’t see the ship making many port stops in the near future.
  10. Thank you CH. I wish there were more posters with ideas on “What will it take to restart cruise ships”. We need ideas.
  11. If we wait that long all the cruise lines will be out of business. We need a bridge to get us from here and now to the point that you are hoping for.
  12. Opening ports and letting people choose is a recipe for disaster. In order to start cruising again the ship will have to be tightly controlled...preboarding testing and onboard testing. When the ship lands at a port, one that has a special agreement, then all pax who disembark will need to be escorted to an isolated location. The pax must be kept from becoming contaminated. To expose the pax to a general population at a port defeats the efforts to avoid infection while onboard. So...how do we cruise keeping the ship infection free and avoidIng infection while in port?? So far all I can envision is a long voyage with one port of disembarkation. How many of you would embark on a 2 week cruise with no ports other than the port of disembarkation?? The ship would be the destination.
  13. O.K. Can we get back to the topic. Does anyone have any ideas on how to get cruising restarted?
  14. The largest outbreak in the US was due to the idiotic mishandling of the nursing homes. 61% of the deaths were elderly...mostly nursing homes. If you removed that 60% you would have 35,000 deaths...not even close to the annual flu deaths.
  15. Would you really want to get on an airplane when nobody has been tested??
  16. People under 60 are going to have to accept a level of risk. The stats show they are surviving. The elderly will have to continue to shelter. It should be a personal choice for people under 60.
  17. Hey RK, You have heard of Bonine! I’ve sailed on 12 deck with a 130 mile an hour head wind. Bonine saved the day...and my dinner...lol.
  18. Great idea RK. The only problem would be picking up a new compliment of pax while in port. They would have to fly in and go through a lot of testing. With the transatlantic theory you can take on a new compliment of pax in Europe to sail to Miami. If say, MSC, had two ships reaching Miami while another 2 ships reach Barcelona or Rome they could exchange entertainers while in port. That would keep 4 ships sailing back and forth. Hmmmm...this might work. These would be 14 day sailings. Hey...it’s a start!!
  19. Hi RK, I hope that you find this since there has been nothing posted here for the past two weeks. It has occurred to me that due to the limitations caused by “The Hunan Virus” that there will be few ports available. Cruising, as we know it, might start by sailing southern transatlantic from Florida to Europe or from Europe to Florida. The ship would be the destination and the Port will become the point of embarkation for those sailing in the opposite direction. The passengers could return via chartered flight or sail back to back. All passengers will have to be tested before boarding ship and boarding the plane. If they test positive they will have to quarantine on land at a prearranged hotel with hospital access before returning to the USA or Europe.
  20. Sadly...I do not think MSC or any other line will be ready by the Fall. There are just too many obstacles to overcome. Just restructuring the buffet will take time. Testing each passenger before boarding will have to be worked out. Even if they do resume sailing, where do you think you would be sailing to?? Most ports will be closed to cruise traffic. Cruising in the near future might be limited to the ship and a visit to the private island.
  21. About time to cancel The Jones Act!
  22. A lab comes up with a 5 minute test and it’s flawed. They did this in less than 60 days. Imagine what they will be able to do in 6 months. Yes there will be trial and error but eventually they will get it right. Again...I will say...we need a 5 minute test that can be processed by the hundreds in a short amount of time. We will need that test for cruise lines as well as airlines.
  23. Abbott Labs are currently producing 5 minute tests...50,000 tests per day. The problem is that it takes 1 machine to do the test. They need to design a machine that can do hundreds of tests simultaneously. Like everything else with C19 things will improve over time. Right now I’m concerned with ships sailing in the Caribbean. Europe is another matter entirely. Ports of entry are going to have to cooperate with the cruise lines if they want their business. That is why I said...prearranged. As the virus dies down more hospitals will be willing to take on contagious people in limited numbers. Islands and ports were reluctant to allow contagious ships to land for fear of their med systems being overwhelmed. This too shall change as we go forward.
  24. You can have lobster any night you want on Viking. Simply ask for it.
  25. There are laboratories that are currently producing 50,000 5 minute tests per day. All we will need is a machine that can process 1,000 tests in 15 minutes...and that is already in the works. It won’t be long before the ships will be able to sail again with what I consider acceptable risks. The only problem will be the inability to land at ports or islands. The ship and the private island will be the destination...which is fine with me.
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