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  1. You can have lobster any night you want on Viking. Simply ask for it.
  2. There are laboratories that are currently producing 50,000 5 minute tests per day. All we will need is a machine that can process 1,000 tests in 15 minutes...and that is already in the works. It won’t be long before the ships will be able to sail again with what I consider acceptable risks. The only problem will be the inability to land at ports or islands. The ship and the private island will be the destination...which is fine with me.
  3. The major problem Princess had was leaving the infected people onboard. If an infected person is immediately removed it greatly reduces the threat of others becoming infected. Heightened hygiene protocols will help with this. I’m willing to cruise under those circumstances. It sounds to me that you want an iron clad guarantee. That is not going to happen. Some of us will take the odds and go cruising while others will continue to stay home and shelter.
  4. So...you would rather leave an infected person onboard??? The truth is that we are going to have to accept the risk or continue to shelter. The cruise lines are going to provide assurance that they will test you and they will evacuate you to a prearranged medical facility and the cost will be included in the cruise fare. If all pax and crew are tested the chance of an infected person getting onboard is greatly reduced enough so I would chance booking a cruise under those circumstances. Even if a vaccine is developed we will still run the risk of becoming infected.
  5. Right...there will be a need for retesting and immediate evacuation. I have my doubts about the reliability of the press secretary’s first test.
  6. It’s going to take a lot more than wearing masks to get ships sailing again. They will need a 5 minute CV19 test and temperature/oxygen testing before boarding. The ship will be the destination since disembarking in a port or island will be impossible due to the risk of infection.
  7. The airlines are going to need more than masks. I will not fly until I know all passengers and crew have been tested before boarding the plane. Then I’ll still use a mask.
  8. Infrared temperature check and a 5 minute CV19 test will be mandatory before boarding and during cruise. It will be impossible to visit any islands until a vaccine becomes available. Ships can visit private islands provided they can be controlled. The ship will be the destination until remedies and vaccines become available. Passengers and crew who exhibit any type of virus will need to be removed from the ship immediately. This service will need to be included in the cruise fare. Airlines will also need to do the same as above before they will be safe to fly.
  9. MSC quarters their workers on the Ocean Cay. They built housing so commuting is very limited.
  10. That is the main problem. Unless there is a protected zone on each island the cruise will be extremely limited to the private island or a protected zone. The ship would become the destination until a vaccine can be perfected.
  11. The point being that we are having a discussion of things that need to be discussed.
  12. Wow...some people love to argue for the sake of arguing. What part of “if they are so inclined” did you not understand?? OBTW I will bet you that I am way more vulnerable to Covid 19 than you are. I just chose not to be crippled by it.
  13. Really...and what scientific research have you seen??
  14. If we are to get our economy up and running then we will have to accept the possibility of infection. Elderly and medically vulnerable will have to continue to shelter if they are so inclined. If we want to cruise we will also have to accept the possibility of infection as long as systems have been put in place that will prevent a recurrence of the past months.
  15. This has been a very good thread so far. We will need a machine that will process 1,000 tests in 15 minutes or less. We will need crews to be quarantined before boarding the ship. We will need a way to isolate and remove an infected pax quickly for any disease. We will need island cooperation for hospitalization. We will need pax to wear masks and social distance when going through the boarding and testing process. This applies to ships and planes. We will need airlines to do the same. We will need less crowded cruise ships. We will need crews to monitor and control more closely removing offending pax. We will need islands to cooperate with cruise lines. Anyone care to add or elaborate??
  16. A Presidential order invoking the Wartime Manufacturing Act could change that in minutes. You are right...it’s going to be very interesting.
  17. You are not far off. It has been suggested that a certain cruise line buy a hotel in Miami and quarantine every crew member as they come to join the ship. They will also get the 5 minute test coming and going.
  18. Most accidents happen within a mile of home...lol. I think we are all going to have to accept a certain amount of risk involving the CV.
  19. I am sure that they will find a way to remedy that. I can see 1 machine processing more than 1,000 tests in minutes. It won’t be long. Necessity is the mother of invention.
  20. Very possible and in all probability coming soon.
  21. Hi Prim8, Abbott Labs are currently producing 50,000 5 minute tests per day. If passengers (pax) arrive at terminal and enter wearing masks and then are tested in the terminal as part of the security process then pax would be able to go onboard a ship that is totally negative. The test also identifies those who are incubating. You either have it or you don’t. A ship that has tested negative can sail without much worry. The problem then would be where to land? Most likely the only island would be the private island. Unless arrangements could be made for an isolation area on an island I’m afraid there are no fast answers. If by some chance a pax show signs of any virus they would be isolated and removed from the ship immediately...by prior arrangement. The cruise lines will design new methods of handling crew and passengers just as the airlines will have to do.
  22. Most of you have made plans for future cruises. The question is...What will it take to make you feel confident enough to get on a ship and enjoy your vacation? I propose the following: You will not be able to get on a plane or a ship without a 5 minute CV test. The 5 minute test will prove essential for travel. Each pax will need to test negative as well as temperature and oxygen tests. I would not have any problem boarding a plane or a ship if all the other pax have tested negative. Your thoughts??
  23. Your cruise in September might be a cruise to nowhere. Islands will not accept cruise ships for fear of infection. Cruise ships might not want to land at islands that show evidence of infection. Flying to meet the cruise ship will also pose problems.
  24. In the real world the Aponte family are not about to let their 15 billion dollar cruise line go under. Rafael and her husband are very involved with MSC Cruises. They have the funds and the intention to protect their investment. I would say they are in a much better position than the big three. MSC Global Containers is currently making billions. They have not shut down due to the a Corona Virus. Keeping MSC Cruises afloat would require what the Apontes consider pocket change. If NCL can stay afloat for one year on 1 billion dollars then MSC Is secure for years to come.
  25. Highly unlikely that a company that is making billions of dollars and euros in the freight business will need to borrow money.
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