voljeep

It's all factored in ... and acceptable to both parties.

2 minutes ago, Arizona Wildcat said:

If I have a drink package

Is there a reason I would care if fully covered with my drink package?

Completely agree server's taking cabin numbers creates misapplied drinks  but faster service.

so, if a person without a package,

wow - 17 days and already seeking move overs ... ours have been 6 days - took, then sailed the week following... and the next time was the next day notice - couldn't make it work

and back in the day, I checked the folio the last night - and between then and the time the folio was slipped under the door - a $45 or so charge from a bar was added - nope, not mine.

my disembarkation morning was at customer service...

17 minutes ago, memoak said:

That is a travel group I would not want to be associated with. I have shamed my own friends who do want to tip on land or sea

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23 minutes ago, memoak said:

I agree totally. It is much easier than the old envelope method and no one gets left out. I was going to say only cheap folks or foreigners remove tips. I only hope these people aren’t my next door neighbors when they discuss what they are not going to tip

why?

47 minutes ago, Colorado Coasty said:

To heck with nuts, bring back the olive boats at Crooners.

do olives sell drinks?

do nuts sell drinks?

does popcorn sell drinks?

does Princess even want to sell more drinks since the current Packages and P already has your money?

37 minutes ago, voljeep said:

Bottoms UP! - and only if that PLUS package worked ...

 

Mary Mary Menu | Brightline (gobrightline.com)

and the bar service on board

Onboard Snacks & Drinks | Brightline (gobrightline.com)

37 minutes ago, Snaxmuppet said:

I managed to get the night of embarkation booked which is probably the one I least needed to book in advance because I know they make allowances for that first night for suite guests. But it is the other 2 meals that are included in the Premier package that I am having difficulty with. We like to eat around 7ish if poss.

how long is your cruise?

I'm getting close to re-thinking our cruise on the SUN P with Premier in Oct.  Just a little 5 day in a balcony - no casino benefits, no suite

unlimited casual dining? - 

2 specialty dinners? - 

18 minutes ago, Host CJSKIDS said:

 

Add in the $35 per bag if you want the seamless travel where you check your bag and they bring it to the ship!  2 bags would bring your total to $296.

Bottoms UP! - and only if that PLUS package worked ...

Mary Mary Menu | Brightline (gobrightline.com)

2 minutes ago, memoak said:

My travel group all have ATT and we just text each other   If you are going to use the location finder you need to make each person part of your shipmates grouping. It is a really nice feature 

ding?

7 minutes ago, Host CJSKIDS said:

 

Princess didn't do anything wrong in this instance though.  Another passenger went to the cabin before they were supposed to and left their belongings as the door was propped open.  Sounds like Princess has handled it well and cleared out the stuff and will replace the mini bar.

 

One example of why they say to not go to your stateroom early until they are ready. 

Just missed by one floor ...

4 minutes ago, F355c5 said:

Why would Special Needs At Sea state the scooter will fit a regular cabin door?

how wide is the scooter?  are other sizes available?

4 minutes ago, MacMadame said:

 

They were talking about the Plus Beverage Package, not the Plus Fare. I had to read it a few times to make sure I was reading it correctly. Confusing names.

was 'they' ... me? - if so, it was the not everyone in the cabin has to buy the package which only includes the beverages - no crew (which is charged to folio, but can be removed) or wifi

2 hours ago, Host CJSKIDS said:

Look, it a great thing for some people and will be a nice way to travel.  As I said, I enjoy the Brightline product and know people who commute on it from Miami to Fort Lauderale for work & meetings. 

 

My issue is Princess marketing this as some huge game changer for the local market that is a true innovation.  That's how this was touted and it falls far short of that. 

 

@voljeep what say you?  Is this something you would do?

Our house to Southport Raw Bar - 4 hours driving with an hour buffer for 'pit stops' - leave at 6 am, having a beer at 11 am - then check in, if possible, at Hilton Marina for our pre-cruise night stay.

Our house to OIA - about an hour depending on Brightline schedule - 3 hour trip with the 2 stops, then shuttle to ??? - ship if same day, or uber to Hilton/Southport if going down the day before - which we would, then have to uber anywhere we went, which wouldn't be much.  So, we really wouldn't save the one-night stay.

For us, not economical ... and we also don't travel light either ... if it fits in the car ...

for Port Canaveral - day of drive, easy hour - pay to park at port or at Brightline. Our house to Brightline to PCanaveral - I'd guess close to 3 hours - so that's a definite no go

12 hours ago, AtlantaCruiser72 said:

I still stick to it being a Brightline partnership that includes parking at Brightline stations and allows for “seamless” addition of Brightline train fare (with connecting port shuttles) included as part of the booking process (much like adding ezair or hotel/transfers are today). This would be a “game changer” for many Florida drive market consumers as it would alleviate port parking hassles. 

3 hours ago, knbcruisers said:

Adding Brightline connection to FLL would be great, this would also allow for people to fly into Orlando as the new Terminal C has a Brightline stop.   Not so sure about Port Canaveral, that would have to be a bus transfer, there is no Brightline connection to there ( would love to see Brightline run across the I4 corridor ).   I considered using Brightline  for our family July cruise on RCL but we need the car for the 2 days prior with DD and her family.   If it was just me and DH I would likely have done it.   

Brightline from OIA takes 3 hours and you're still not at Port Everglades

7 hours ago, MacMadame said:

Pricing is the hardest part of owning a business IME and there are a lot of data and formulas that go into it. When I had my event photography business, I sold a single CD with all pictures in digital format for way less than selling a single print. I made a lot more money selling something that didn't cost me much to make to people who never would have spent that much in single prints, which cost more to make. Sure, some of those people may have spent more a la carte if I didn't offer the package but most wouldn't so I came out ahead.

 

Crew appreciation, wifi, and the zero alcohol package = 16 + 25 + 35 = $76/day. The Plus package is cheaper than that. If they were to offer those 3 things as a package, what would you pay and would it be worth it to Princess?

 

The drink portion of Plus is about $20 a day. 16 + 25 + 20 = $61. So the same cost as Princess Plus!  How about only $10 more for the drinks? That's still around $50 pp / day. And it wouldn't include free room service, free Medalion shipping, free OceanNow, 2 fitness classes, 2 casual dining, etc. that you get with Plus. Would that make sense for you? It seems a bit expensive to me.

 

I think the packages are great and have Princess Plus myself even though dh and I aren't big drinkers. But they just don't add up for some people. 20-25% of the people, it appears according to Princess' numbers.

 

I don't think it would be useful for that. Can you drink $76+ worth of drinks in a day? That's a lot.

noone is buying wifi at $175 for a 7 day cruise - way overpriced to fluff the package.

Our package evaluation has wifi at zero value for us ... so we really gotsta up that drinkin', huh?

2 minutes ago, jagoffee said:

I can see where someone might make that decision.   The Plus Beverage package is $76.90 per day for one person.  The Plus bundle would be $120 a day for two people.  The difference is only $43.10 a day for two people.  But I understand your point.  

but with the Plus Beverage package - you have the option to remove Grats ...

j/s

43 minutes ago, memoak said:

When drink packages first were introduced they were unlimited unlike other cruise lines and Princess said we trust our customers not to share. A year or so later the limit showed up. Nuff said

keep one punch on the coffee card - have unlimited brewed coffee on all future cruises.

next to go - load your non-refundable OBC in the .......................................

6 minutes ago, memoak said:

I would not make it into late night if they counted all stinks in the 15

late afternoon getting close to the 15 if counting waters (4-5) coffee (1) beers (3-4)  ... that's 10 and not even pre-dinner ...

20 minutes ago, Teechur said:

What about basketball? My grandsons will want to play on our Alaska cruise in September.

same sports court

1 minute ago, cr8tiv1 said:

Any "additional" perk will have to be offset with a price increase (to justify adding more perks.  Look what they did to the $50/pp for Plus increase.  Added specialty desserts (2 x a day) and gym classes.  Both of which I would not partake in.

 

Then they added 2 specialty dinners to the Premier, making it harder for everyone to get reservations at the Crown Grill/Sabatini's.  Let's do some math here.  An extra $20 a day for 2 specialty dinners.  

 

10 day cruise = $200 extra for 2 dinners (per person).  Without the package, you could independently book 5 dinners at the Crown Grill (5 x $40).  I know....there were other inclusions, mostly costing Princess nothing (photos, reserved seating, higher beverages costs, etc).  Princess wins ALL the time.

 

 

always PLUS - but upgraded to Premier on the little 5 day'er

NO and NO !

if anything, take out the fluff in the PLUS and Premier, reduce the price, and get it back to basics of the old BEST. SALE. EVEH.  Drinks, Grats, Wifi .

I know, I know

sport court shared by all, not just pickleball

oops - my 4-5-4 should have been 5-4-5 to equal 14 days or 2 of 7 days