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  1. Thanks Kate. I am the one you are responding to. Just in full disclosure, I also have not even been on CC for quite a while. The first reason is because I do not see cruising at any time in the foreseeable future. The second reason is all of nastiness. Kind of like what you just mentioned. I wasn't liking the toxic questioning and attacks by a number of people here. But, times have changed even further now, haven't they!!!! The only reason I am here is that I did get a notice that you had quoted and responded to my comments. Anyhow, your comments are interesting! And I can see some cases where this might apply. The thing is, here on the Oceania chat board, there had been increasing recent reports, especially from warm weather cruises, that there was not enough loungers, enforcement of chair-hog policies, avoiding the pool deck all together. They are def. there!!!! I am not familiar with the line and situations you have mentioned. but here on the Oceania chat board I have seen the posts from one person here showing what is called massive chair/deck hogging. (called Nesting) on another high end line similar to Oceania. Wow. I do think that this does show the desire for a nicer and more personal space. (territory). Literally an effort to create ones own Sanctuary / Haven. I still think that if the product and space and services are well designed and desirable enough, and offered at what most would see as a reasonable cost, that this would only be a positive. I do still think that! Anyhow, back to my hiatus from anything 'cruising'. Carry on!
  2. Is that the regular medical coverage, which I would expect? Cancel for any reason, if one paid the big premium increase for that, should still apply. I do have some Cancel For Any Reason on the one cruise deposit we have down. True, these are not 100%. And, the cruise line knows this. That is a big hit. But, anyhow... Part of what the one poster above said is right. Many people besides those of us here who are lucky enough to have planned to cruise are being affected by this. I still see a lot of excuses and attempts to absolve or justify. Do those of you here actually want to believe that one sole person made these broad efforts during the seriousness of this Pandemic, without anyone else knowing... Without any 'guidance' from the very top levels. (which would include the NCLH umbrella) Hey, that is okay. Facts do not always change peoples minds. Just look at the FL beaches. "I want to do what I want to do, to justify and see only what I want." No matter if I continue to spread this disease back to the rest of the country. This doesn't just include any (supposedly evil) corporation. This includes many of us. (collective population in general) Personally, for me, this virus was brought into my community by one person who traveled and cruised. My son is probably being layed off. These are facts that I know, for me. The fact of the matter is that a lot of people are very sick and dying and out of work and suffering. That is what is going on. That is what matters! I do not like the way some of the cruise lines, including 'O', have handled this. That doesn't waver. In the broader sense of things, my feelings on this cruise thing are not that important, are they. Now backing away....
  3. I only know for sure that the Grand Princess has recently finally disembarked all passengers. And the ship had the COVID coronavirus. I am not aware of any other ships arriving and disembarking recently. If this is true, I would have to assume that she passed the temperature, or whatever, screening and flew home. Now she is very sick, and getting tested. She is elderly. Ohhh My!!!!
  4. I know somebody here just off the Sirena. Not sure when exactly.. Today? Is anybody here keeping up with any ships that are just recently arriving back and disembarking? I know of somebody who just got back from a cruise, and is not well. But, I am hoping to find out which cruise without going and asking.
  5. This is really not even making sense. If those FCC's become worthless, no, you are not 'made whole'. That is what I would call being ripped off. An FCC that may or not ever be realized is in no way compensation or making one whole. Hopefully, if any bankruptcy / reorganization happens, and yes it is very possible, the vulnerable customers who are now out good cash money will be the first to get consideration. No amount of promises or double-talk or wishful thinking here can justify.
  6. The only problem is with the CDC, and their failure to come up with the promised testing. Government controlled medicine. Thank goodness that is being corrected.
  7. ETA: Sorry, corrected in my post above... Nothing to see here!
  8. What a very negative and loaded question... Wow. I would say to anyone who has that question directed at them that I simply wouldn't even go there. IMHO, it is not always that simple. And, as for myself, I might possibly decide to NOT cruise with Oceania. I have been witnessed saying, before I had ever considered O, or knew that O was with NCL, that I did not care to ever cruise with NCL. For these very kinds of reasons. It is not like this is something new or some kind of knee-jerk emotional reaction. Not at all. Somebody said that this seemed like a game of 'chicken'. Who will give in first. I guess I don't think it is okay for a company to set up a situation for customers (vulnerable customers) to play Chicken when lives could be risked.
  9. I will add that pointing fingers at others over things that were not under their control helps nobody. It is the decisions and policies that are now being made/changed that are fair grounds for discussion. I base my thoughts and feelings on current facts and actions. I agree with your last post, Paulchili.
  10. I am not so sure that they would make the responsible decision and not risk my well being when deciding that a cruise would “go” or not. In fact, quite the opposite. They did did not cancel anything, did they, until forced by Presidential Order. Shouldn’t a company have more concern than the President. Having to force him to step in. It really is that simple. It it is not appropriate to place concerned customers with bookings in that position and then play these policy games. Even more more especially with the usual older demographic.
  11. I think Jan is right. “A bird in the hand....” Still pretty bad and IMHO unfair to dangle that carrot. Especially in these dangerous and trying circumstances. I will I’ll just refrain from using words worse than bad or awful here. Even though that is what is going thru my mind. This is not something a fair or reputable company with any good will would do.
  12. This is NOT changing pricing and normal conditions. ALL passengers who are affected by the fact that Oceania, or any line, cancels a cruise and suspends operations should be compensated equally and fairly. That should mean that every passenger should be fully refunded at whatever price point they paid. This shouldn’t be some kind of psychological mind game with policies that change by day. The more I hear about Oceania / NCL the worse it sounds.
  13. Those are all good observations! All good things! I would wonder, however, if Oceania is continuing to live up to the Four Season's standard or description. Seems the line is not getting the reviews and ratings that it was?
  14. I think it really is personal and subjective. We have sailed Princess, and I have really liked the Regal. It is not a huge floating city / amusement park. It is def. and adult geared cruise line. But, it isn't quiet/stuffy either. (I don't mind a larger ship, would probably have to be an O class for us). They have more activities than lectures. Just as much time with the party band or jazz band as with the strings. We enjoy the Sanctuary on Regal Princess. It is indulgent and amazing. (not sure I remember what this would be called on Celebrity) We have been planning on sailing Oceania for the reasons mentioned above. The food, the itineraries. The NOT-amusement park sailing. I wouldn't mind sea days. As, in fact, the itinerary that has what we are looking for that we found on Oceania has NO sea days. So, the down-time will be sea-days at port at the lessor ports. Another reason that we are looking at Oceania is that I do not like the changes that have been being made at Princess. The changes to the ships,, the cutbacks (food offerings and less service). And these new ships and new changes will be the new norm with Princess. Regal is now moving to the West Coast. We are near the East Coast. I also get the idea from everything that I have read or seen over the past few months is that there is some difference in the vibe in the passenger demographic. We are at retirement, but still look for some activity and a bit of a lighter experience. (a slight fun-factor). I see a vacation as a time to be upbeat and happy. (ones idea of this might be subjective and influenced by relative age?). I guess that while I appreciate the more casual vibe, we appreciate the opportunity to get fancied up a bit. And, I do think this should be more of an opportunity (not an encouraged mandate). Seems almost discouraged here? Happy Cruising!!!!
  15. Also, well said HawaiiDan on that one last post!
  16. Any line that did not suspend operations before the Presidential Order knowingly risked this situation with either mass infection, no available ports, or both. The cruise line execs know all of this very well. That is what they are paid to know. It is not like this situation appeared yesterday. They based their policies on profit at the risk of customer well being. Not okay
  17. Me..... No, maybe not. The reason is not the current situation. The reason is the changes and cutbacks that have been made that I feel are mistakes. Changes that take away the things that I have loved about Princess. The cutbacks in menus and nicer food and seafood offerings. The loss of the nice Retreat adult pool area on the new ships. The minimalistic instead of welcoming redesign of some areas. Etc. Etc. We have really enjoyed the Regal. Took forever for them to replace the old beds. And it will be repositioned to the West Coast. We we have been interested in cruising the Eastern Med. Have considered other lines.
  18. If Disney is almost ten times the cost per share, no real leverage there... 100 shares of DIS would be a huge investment and would have to go up that many times more dollars per share to net the same return.
  19. I wonder how much SBC would be on a 7 day cruise on Marina?
  20. Susie, what other destinations are you considering? I know that I have been looking at a getaway, from back before this thing got bad, and rates have not dropped. Quite the opposite.
  21. PS: If Oceania has cancelled and ended cruises, that is on them. Nobody should be out of any money. Of course, there is the possibility of some kind of bankruptcy / reorganization measures. But I would hope that individual cruisers affected would be the first to be protected and receive refunds. Shouldn't they come first?
  22. I am so sorry for everyone that has had disrupted long-awaited plans!!! We actually have a bucket list cruise booked for months in the future. I know I would be upset. Susie, I do believe that the cruise industry will survive! But, back to the original topic. I am not happy to hear that, finally, after everything else imaginable has shut down, Oceania calls off right now. It is way to little, way too late. And, I believe they only did it because of the Presidential order of Trump, as he tries to help get a handle on this awful virus. Other lines have already voluntarily shut down. The 'O' ships are sailing with few passengers, and more cancelling every day. And, yet, they wait until now. This is following with the parent company NCL. I have never been a fan of NCL and their practices. While other lines were planning on suspending operations, there are allegations of those marketing promo tactics. When I started looking at Oceania, I was concerned when I learned that they have, for some time, been a part of the NCL company. I had hoped that the leadership within Oceania would be better than some of what we have seen from NCL. I am concerned that this shows that is simply not the case.
  23. Yes Kathy, great advice for everyone. Everyone stay safe and healthy!
  24. I agree with EmmaBeale above. The cruise market has been, and is, huge. looking for more ports and building new ships, etc. I don't think that will change. It might take some time. But I don't think that there has been irreparable harm to the cruise and travel industry. People and companies can be very resourceful and rebound. And, I believe that is what will happen here. This is not a case of a changing industry, times, demographic, etc.. (such as the internet putting retail on the brink). This is temporary factor. Not an evolving and progressing factor. I saw one article that said that XX percent of people are already saying that they will book a cruise. (or travel?) soon after this thing settles down. And, I think that will happen. I do not echo HawaiiDan... Not that fast. But, ineveitably....
  25. I do know that it is exclusive. I think we all do. And we all also know that there are very few children on Oceania. If you re-read my comments, this is very clear. Never said otherwise. (the confusion is unnecessary) I am thinking about more than some shade/umbrellas. Big differences. No real comparison. Carry on!!!!
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