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  1. The definition of the word ignorance "is lack of knowledge or information." No one knows what life will be like onboard when cruising resumes. Anyone who disagrees with that statement has their head buried in the sand. Believing or wanting something to be true - "ignoring" all the clear uncertainty - when one does not have the foggiest idea of what the real situation will be when the ships sail again fulfills that definition. Would delusional suit you better? Living in the cherished past and believing against all reality and facts pertaining to this pandemic world wide that life at sea on our beloved Seabourn ships or any other cruise ship will just pick up at the same high level where it was in March of 2020 is wishful thinking at best and just plain ignorance at worst. There are just too many unknown factors at stake - like probable cost reductions, increased fares, service changes and reductions, crew composition upon resumption and level of training, ports accepting us, countries allowing entry, excursions, quality of food and wines, kitchen excellence. Seabourn and parent Carnival have no income except future cruise deposits and still large expenses with reduced land staffs and maintaining ships with skeletal crews and even building new ones. They are hemorrhaging debt despite the new line of credit. Unlike American Airlines, they get no government subsidies. They have furloughed thousands of employees and will have to re- crew all over again in competition in the new job market for cruise jobs with all other cruise lines when that day occurs. These are serious concerns to Seabourn and to any knowledgable traveler. What about people spreading the disease onboard and precautions the cruise will take - passengers or crew getting sick while we are sailing? People who refuse to take the vaccine, should there be one. You've thought that all through? You are so certain all will be perfect again? My point is that no one knows what that scene will be like. That is undeniable. The "all will be well and perfect as it once was" believers and the "what me worry?" crowd have blinders on. Sure we would alike it to be the way it once was.
  2. The ignorance displayed on this thread is just appalling.
  3. Time for reality check folks. Yes Seabourn is stale, and so is every cruise line. Six months in the bread box ( for those of you who remember bread boxes before bread had preservatives). Hard, crusty and moldy. Nothing against Searbourn - and my fondest wish is that it returns just as good as when we left it six months ago. Miles better than Windstar. For me it was the best. But the inconvenient truth is that we can dream of our fond memories of past glorious cruises and imagine this is what it will be like again but how Seabourn and all other lines return when that day comes is a total unknown. Luxury status is not a snap of the fingers - it is attained over time as the line's reputation grows. Seabourn had a fine reputation. Will it again? Seabourn will have to regroup un all ways imaginable and unimaginable too. If you offer the best, you can charge high prices. That they are still doing. Yes cabins very fine and ships small and very nice. But it's the product - with or without masks - that they will be serving up one Day One that matters. We just don't know what and how good that product will be. So many variables as I mentioned in my message few days ago. Every cruise line facing the same question. The luxury lines will want to convince its audiences it will come back with a very comparable product that it had when the curtain came down.. We just do not know. The cost cutting will be felt in what we recieve. Arriverderci caviar. Does anyone believe Carnival will still permit that indulgence? What will the crew be like? Top quality again? Trained or semi or untrained? Seabourn-quality crews? The food? The service? The entertainment? The ports? The excursions? Will countries allow entry? These furloughed employees are just not sitting around in their home countries awaiting the call. Many have found jobs elsewhere to keep their family alive. Pay stopped a long time ago. They are getting no US government or any other country subsidies. Their debt is enormous. The ships have skeletal crews on board to keep the engines and vital systems going. Very small in comparison to full crew size and probably just the engineering folk. Yes. Stale product. Could be a year or longer before they go back to cruising. We have to know when the mold is scraped off what the loaf of bread will smell like, look like and taste. No cruise line is talking about this and hoping the passengers just believe it will the same product as when this calamity began.
  4. All of this talk about comparing stale products with one another and anting to get advice on the future. It all depends what the ships are like when they return to service post CV. What will their staffs be like? New people, old, trained or untrained? A mixture? From where? Their shipboard management? their food? Quality and quantity? Their service? Their amenities? These cruise lines are burning cash. Desperate to stay afloat. Who survives and who does and which ships are scuttled is still to be told. Many things will change. Subtle and unsubtle. You cannot compare a fond memory of a year ago when the ships were at their prime with what will probably greet us when we return.
  5. I want to hear how Seabourn will relaunch as a luxury, small ship cruise line again. Luxurious accommodations and itineraries are one thing and lets assume they can provide a relatively safe environment. Masks or no masks, social distancing. Better air supply. It takes years to gain a reputation for excellence to justify high prices. How will they re-crew? How many will be rookies? how will kitchen and food be? What will staffing be like as the cruise line climbs out of its deep financial hole. Smaller crew? Less entertainment? Will they have the money to buy the best provisions and will Carnival allow little excesses as in past. The vast bulk of the people laid off are not on any pay from Seabourn or their countries. Each ship has kept a small skeletal crew aboard to keep the engines going and moving parts moving. There will be many who've found new jobs or just do not want to risk their own lives by going back to sea. For those returning from the past, many will be rusty. From engine room to behind the walls to mid level officers, where will they find not just people but the best people? Competition for the same experienced people by all the cruise lines can cause big pay increases that can affect pricing. They're thinking about their own safety too. It will be like launching the two new 650 passenger ships a few years back. But there there is no four other ships to draw the best people from. This is what I want to understand a lot better before I commit to go back not just to cruising but also to Seabourn luxury cruising. Too much on this site is about safe cruising and not the quality of what we have learned to expect.
  6. I have been thinking about what the crew and crewing problems must be like for refitting the ships and going cruising again. Many of us are thinking of cruising when it all is safe, if that ever happens. Cleanliness is paramount. Quality of food coming out of kitchen and waiters is one problem and quality of whole crew and service another. On Seabourn the crew was small, maybe couple of hundred, but now scattered to the four winds. Many of those back in their home countries looked for or took other jobs if they could find any. I'm sure they were not paid by Seabourn. How does the cruise line reassemble a first class crew? How many will be willing to return? The problem is throughout the ship - even the engine crew and engineering people. We have to know we are sailing with a first class and trained engineering crew. Every department. No ship has ever faced this before. And now it is an entire fleet of 7 ships. Anyone have any ideas about this? I know some the ships have had a skeletal crew on aboard to keep the engines and systems going, but only a small few in number unless the ships was shut down cold.. Have all these management and staff people been waiting around to be recalled? Are the other cruise lines desperate for a good crew trying to steal them away? All new waiters, Cabin staff? Can 7 ships in the fleet get back to sea with fully qualified and trained personnel? And will we get the level of trained staff we once experienced that made Seaborun stand out? I am sure the Seabourn people int Seattle monitor these comments. Crews sleep four or six to a cabin. Illness rapidly spreads in cramped crew quarters. I'd like them to address how they plan on accomplishing the recrewing of the entire fleet in a way that we the loyal Seabourn passengers would expect to find welcoming and acceptable, and the health of the crew issue as well.
  7. SLSD has said it perfectly. We need to hear all views about cruising in the future and traveling to get there and back. We are all exposed to everyone else and everyone else is exposed to us. The risk is even greater for spread among and from the crew. Recirculating air between all cabins and floors leaves everyone vulnerable. Secluding oneself in a penthouse cabin with limited access and thinking's that is an acceptable risk maybe a solution for some, but is it foolproof or good enough for the rest of us?. Forty cruises in twenty seven years may enough. The thought of seeing crew and guests wearing masks or shields, and much changed cruising conditions, no caviar, a downgrade in services and quality because the bottomline is a new one, changed socialization conditions is a big pause for us. Bring on the proven vaccine first.
  8. The President has been gone in reality for some time. Once his leaving was announced, I am sure he was effectively relieved of command, making no more decisions. May 31 date is just a PR thing. Someone in CLL is calling the shots for the time being until a new head is put in charge. Surprising no announcement of that these several weeks -not normal, but then again, what is today??.
  9. Meadows was a decent individual who would listen to smart comments from customers when others below him wouldn't. AND provided a very good product, while maintaining the caviar despite intense pressure surely from CCL to cut it out - like all the others had. Surely it will be gone as a cost cutting measure along with lots of other things when the fleet returns to the seas, in whatever diminished form the new days will provide, and the whole Keller thing may be rethought, to which I say "amen."..
  10. Thank you for that great memory of dining outside at the Colonnade and our late Captain Larsen - the best in our fleet, or any fleet - getting us slowly through the very narrow fjord and then doing the 360. We'll sadly have to be satisfied with these memories until a foolproof way is devised to get us sailing again safely.
  11. Thank you for this lovely Christmas greeting Shanola and invoking the good Captain's memory at this time of year for all of us who knew and loved him. I say again the finest captain we have ever sailed with, and one of the best and most decent men my wife Mrs Brittany 12 and I have ever known. Seeing the tree and decorated staircase outside of the MDR on Deck Four invokes so many memories of the ships at Holiday time and being with Captain Bjarne. RIP our Captain. Shanola - I am just figuring out who you must be. So terribly sorry for your loss.
  12. Free internet on luxury Iines seems to be the practice or trend. SB I am sure will catch up soon.
  13. From all the comments I have heard over the years since Encore introduced this concept, and from reading these pages, it sounds like it's vastly underutilized, a giant disappointment to most of the users and not churning a lot of revenue - for all the obvious reasons. The comments above in this thread some of the most damning. Seabourn is apparently nevertheless sticking with it.
  14. Extremely slow in their laying out the rest of their 2021 regular schedule. Except the Ventures complete. Lovely to get a bit of 2022 too. Competitors way ahead of them. Hard to understand.
  15. Seabourn Sojourn is doing a Papeete embarkation for a segment of its 2021 World Cruise. Anyone out there have any experience on the availability of mileage business seats on any of the mighty few airlines that fly from US to Papeete?
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