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#21
Auckland NZ
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Also take into account the ship can also arrive late into Sydney. We had this happen to us last week, and arrived 5.5hrs late. So many people had to rework their plans including ourselves.

Although it is the beginning of summer there is no guarantee of great weather unfortunately.
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#22
Melbourne, Australia
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I think the Auckland idea is great, and will probably save you money on flights, since one way flights from the US are about as expensive as return flights.

Buy a return ticket to Auckland. Get off the ship in Sydney, fly to Cairns, spend your 2 days there, fly Cairns to Auckland. Fit in the restaurant somewhere (that will be your challenge!).

Forget Brisbane, I really don't see the point of Brisbane in this scenario. Your best day trip to the GBR is going to be from Cairns.
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#23
Melbourne
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Definitely agree with Toryhere, check out Hamilton Island as an option, Whitehaven Beach is one Island worth seeing. You are much closer to the GBR for day tours, you are not spending a couple of hours on a boat getting to great diving/snorkelling tours. Both Qantas and Virgin have daily flights.
#24
DFW Metroplex
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All the options I see from Cairns to Auckland have me stopping over again in Brisbane or Sydney. I could still go up to Cairns, but fly BNE-LAX-DFW which still means having our anniversary dinner in BNE. That is possible and still and option. Are there any direct CNS/AKL flights that I am not finding? Because if so, that would definitely make that more appealing.

I'm looking at booking a one way air and using miles for a business class ticket back (we learned once that you want your more comfortable flight on your return flight when your tired and less excited about the destination. So, I am not sure that a round trip fare is going to be that much of a big deal.

Also, I plan to take an evening flight from SYD to CNS/BNE, so if the ship is late, it should be okay. Any afternoon time we have, I can find something to do I am sure. Its figuring out what to do with all our luggage that is going to be the fun thing. Maybe we can rent a car for a couple hours or something and get from the port to the airport via a sightseeing drive around town. Can't be worse than the time my mother and I were in Berlin shortly after the wall fell, and we arrived in West Berlin, and had a taxi take us to the station in East Berlin via a couple iconic sightseeing stops all in the space of an hour. That man didn't speak a word of English and we didn't speak a word of German, but somehow we managed to get it all communicated and it worked out pretty well. We may have communicated in broken French.

So, tell me about snorkeling and the stinging fish in December. Should I be concerned about that or is that a bunch of hype? I don't particularly want to get stung, but I really don't want to die, so what's the deal there? I very much want to do a little snorkeling in the GBR, weather permitting.

Of course, I can't truly worry about air until January of next year.
#25
Melbourne, Australia
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The luggage part is easy. There's a luggage storage place 2 minutes walk from the OPT, and another at Central Station.

Or - if you fly Virgin Australia to Cairns, they now set up a check in desk at the OPT (someone will need to confirm if this is done every time a ship comes in) and you can get off the ship, check in for your flight there and then, and they'll take your luggage right to the plane and issue you your boarding passes. Then you go about your day and just turn up to the airport for your flight. There's a $25 fee for doing this, well worth it.

By the time you come, other airlines may be doing this too.

Someone else will have to advise re stingers... I assume if the tours run in December (have a look for this December) then it must be ok.
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#26
Sydney Australia
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I think you may be mixing up stinging fish with box jellyfish. Don't worry most tour operators if there is a swarm they give you special suits to wear that will protect you. Just check with the tour providers what their policies are to be sure.

There are two direct flights from Cairns to Auckland they cover everyday except Wednesday. One is with Air New Zealand and the other Philippines Airlines. I am in agreement that going to Brisbane is a bad idea You will spend more time travelling to the GBR than at the GBR and since you have so little time you should find a way to make the most of it Unless of course you are a destination ticker in which case I guess it will do
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#27
Sydney, Australia
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If you do decide to go to Cairns I suggest actually staying at Port Douglas, an hour away by shuttle bus.

For a reef trip I recommend Wavelength https://www.wavelength.com.au/ which departs from Port Douglas.

Then do a Daintree Forest tour with Tony's Tropical Tours https://www.tropicaltours.com.au/.

I recommend the Meridian Port Douglas apartment hotel. https://portdouglasmeridian.com/about/ It's one block from the main shopping street, and an easy walk to the marina. Tours pick up at the apartments. No children under 16 either. We've stayed there a number of times and always loved it.
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#28
Sydney Australia
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Sorry I was just informed Philippines airline no longer runs the Cairns to Auckland route But Air New Zealand is still going but no flights Wednesday or Tuesday.

If you are looking to sightsee Sydney driving is a bad idea. I can't speak to Berlin but as a local I will avoid driving in Sydney city as often as possible. It is that bad. To the airport you will end up on highways and see very little, besides you can't visit the Royal Botanic Gardens by car and those are some of the best views of the harbour. Besides most of the main tourist attractions are in the vicinity of the OPT and the rest are reachable by foot or one or two stops from Circular Quay station. No need to to rent a car
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#29
DFW Metroplex
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So. . .it seems the majority feel that the better option is:

SYD to Cairns on the Dec 14
Cairns Area 15 & 16
Return to Sydney or Brisbane on 17th for our anniversary dinner (possibly Auckland).
Home on the 18th because we are already pushing it for vacation days around the holidays, and we are going to pretend that we will actually be able to work on the 19th and 20th. Ha ha ha!!!!

As long as we don't die from stinging fish or box jellyfish or whatever things I've read about that are fatal in the GBR in December, then I'm game. The Cairns area does seem much nicer. Wasn't this my original idea?
#31
Melbourne, Australia
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Originally posted by OzKiwiJJ
If you do decide to go to Cairns I suggest actually staying at Port Douglas, an hour away by shuttle bus.

For a reef trip I recommend Wavelength https://www.wavelength.com.au/ which departs from Port Douglas.

Then do a Daintree Forest tour with Tony's Tropical Tours https://www.tropicaltours.com.au/.

I recommend the Meridian Port Douglas apartment hotel. https://portdouglasmeridian.com/about/ It's one block from the main shopping street, and an easy walk to the marina. Tours pick up at the apartments. No children under 16 either. We've stayed there a number of times and always loved it.

This. Do this.

You will have a trip to remember!
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#32
DFW Metroplex
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Okay, I'm coming back to this because it will be easiest to keep all my crazy ideas in one thread. I think I am narrowing in on post-cruise crazy trip to GBR. Sydney to Cairns on debarkation day (Saturday), GBR (Sunday), Daintree (Monday), fly back to Sydney for anniversary dinner at French Restaurant and maybe a semi-romantic after dinner night walk across the bridge because we really aren't doing much in Sydney which I know is a shame, but that's what happens when you try to have your cake and eat it too. Having your cake, eating it, and not gaining wait is just impossible, so you have to give something up.


So, now on the front end. I'm really, really bummed, that I'm not going to see Mt. Cook. But then, I got this great idea, that maybe I could do a similar crazy trip on the front end of this cruise. Yes, yes. I have already admitted that I know it is insane, but I have done a lot of insane things in my life, so this would be par for the course. The trick would be convincing my husband. Below are my thought options:


Arrive Auckland Saturday, fly to Mt Cook, scenic flight and bum around Mt. Cook area on Sunday, fly back to Auckland on some horrid early flight to board ship on Monday.

Arrive Queenstown Saturday, one way rail or coach tour or something to Mt. Cook on Sunday. Scenic flight over Mt. Cook (would have to be afternoon and I read that clouds are more likely). Overnight in Mt. Cook for crazy morning flight to catch ship on Monday.

Do one of the above options and arrive on Friday but fly to Auckland on Sunday for an overnight before the cruise. That would allow us to see a maybe a tad bit of Auckland although honestly, I think if we haven't died of fatigue and jet lag by then, we probably would end up crashing in the hotel and missing Auckland anyway. And the whole reason we are doing a cruise and not a land tour is because my husband hates packing up and going from hotel to hotel. The first option would minimize that.

So, thoughts, rash political statements about my sanity or lack thereof. And, yes, I did look at flying RT to Sydney from DFW and then taking a one way from Sydney to Queenstown to Auckland but the air time simply increases too much when I am trying to use my miles on American. So a bunch of one way trips it is.
#33
Gold Coast
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Just reminder that this will be in the cyclone wet season. If the seas are rough, the small boats don't go out to the Great Barrier Reef, so the shorter the visit the higher the risk.

If time permits, Lady Elliott Island and Heron Island are both actually on the Great Barrier Reef, at the southern end.
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#34
DFW Metroplex
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Yep. Weather is a risk. But weather is always a risk. I grew up on the Gulf Coast, so I get hurricane season. I'm going to keep my fingers crossed that since we will be there earlier in the summer, it will be like hurricane season in the states earlier in the summer. It's sometimes bad in June and July, but not like August, September, and October. So matching that to the seasons there, it sometimes happens in November/December, but more likely in January, February, and March. Maybe? Keeping my fingers crossed anyway. I'm also hoping for a clear day in Milford Sound in December which I hear is pretty hit or miss too.
#35
Gold Coast
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Originally posted by dleighb
Yep. Weather is a risk. But weather is always a risk. I grew up on the Gulf Coast, so I get hurricane season. I'm going to keep my fingers crossed that since we will be there earlier in the summer, it will be like hurricane season in the states earlier in the summer. It's sometimes bad in June and July, but not like August, September, and October. So matching that to the seasons there, it sometimes happens in November/December, but more likely in January, February, and March. Maybe? Keeping my fingers crossed anyway. I'm also hoping for a clear day in Milford Sound in December which I hear is pretty hit or miss too.
Yes. The last couple of years we've had cyclones in April, which is late. We had beautiful weather in the Sounds in December, so I hope you are lucky.
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#36
Sydney, Australia
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I wouldn't risk a flight from Mt Cook on embarkation day. If that flight is delayed or cancelled by weather you might not make it back to Auckland in time.
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#37
Sunshine Coast Queensland Australia
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Flights from Cairns to Auckland are only operated by Air New Zealand in the winter - so the Kiwi's can get some sun.

Cyclones on the east coast in December have been rare in recent years.
#38
New Zealand
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Re your planned Mt Cook trip. I hope you have all your ducks in a row. I can't find any direct flights to Mt Cook from Auckland, only to Queenstown.
Queenstown to Mt Cook scenic flight 3 hrs $600 per passenger. Probably not do-able with less than two full days. As many overseas visitors have found out to their detriment, distances in NZ are much harder/ longer to cover than comparable in the US. And GPS units have sent people on un-navigable routes on many occasions.
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#39
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BelmontBabe, you are correct. I've been researching options all day. This is harder to do when you are over a year out and can't research actual flight dates, but I want to have a plan because I've just realized that we will be leaving on the day before Thanksgiving which is one of the worst air travel days in the U.S., so I need to be ready to book my air like super early if I want to try for priority economy. I don't know if DFW SYD is a hot ticket item for people's 4-day holiday weekend, but I don't want to take chances. I also have to ease my husband into these plans and budget for them.



So. . .current pre-cruise plan I am attempting to sell my husband on:


Non-stop Dallas-Sydney on Qantas leaving Wed, arriving Friday because the laws of time and the international date line steal a day from me. Continue on same day to Queenstown or Christchurch.


Saturday - Insane day trip tour from Christchurch to Queenstown (or vice versa) via Mt. Cook which can include helicopter trip, weather permitting. Yes, I found one!

Sunday - spend day unconscious and recovering in Queenstown or Christchurch. If you had a day to spend unconscious and jet lagged, would you choose Queenstown or Christchurch? I am assuming that we would get out and walk about some. Yes, the cruise stops in Akoroa, but I want to do a Harbor Wildlife Cruise there, so I am not sure that I will make it into Christchurch. Is that horrible to miss Christchurch?

Monday - take ridiculously early flight to Auckland which hopefully will still be available in December 2019. Pray that there are no flight delays, arrive Auckland around 10:00am and head to ship for check-in. Now, I've never flown in the morning of a cruise before. I've always thought people are insane to do that, so I may convince my husband to accept spending three nights in three different hotels and fly in to Auckland the night before. What is the worst that happens? If we miss ship sail from Auckland can we board at the Bay of Islands? I am assuming that we could.



And just a recap on insane post-cruise plan:
Saturday: Sydney to Cairns
Sunday: GBR or Daintree Rainforest (depending on weather forecast)
Monday: Daintree Rainforest or GBR (whichever we didn't do day before)
Tuesday: Cairns Sydney
Wednesday: Sydney Dallas

It all looks doable on paper although I might have to mortgage my house again. I figure if we can do eight days in a row at Walt Disney World in the parks from open to close every day, going non-stop all day with two pre-teens in the Florida summer heat and humidity,, we can survive this. Sleep is not important! We can sleep on Christmas Weekend when we are back in the U.S.! And then maybe keep sleeping on into January!
#40
I come from a land down under
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Originally posted by dleighb
BelmontBabe, you are correct. I've been researching options all day. This is harder to do when you are over a year out and can't research actual flight dates, but I want to have a plan because I've just realized that we will be leaving on the day before Thanksgiving which is one of the worst air travel days in the U.S., so I need to be ready to book my air like super early if I want to try for priority economy. I don't know if DFW SYD is a hot ticket item for people's 4-day holiday weekend, but I don't want to take chances. I also have to ease my husband into these plans and budget for them.



So. . .current pre-cruise plan I am attempting to sell my husband on:


Non-stop Dallas-Sydney on Qantas leaving Wed, arriving Friday because the laws of time and the international date line steal a day from me. Continue on same day to Queenstown or Christchurch.


Saturday - Insane day trip tour from Christchurch to Queenstown (or vice versa) via Mt. Cook which can include helicopter trip, weather permitting. Yes, I found one!

Sunday - spend day unconscious and recovering in Queenstown or Christchurch. If you had a day to spend unconscious and jet lagged, would you choose Queenstown or Christchurch? I am assuming that we would get out and walk about some. Yes, the cruise stops in Akoroa, but I want to do a Harbor Wildlife Cruise there, so I am not sure that I will make it into Christchurch. Is that horrible to miss Christchurch?

Monday - take ridiculously early flight to Auckland which hopefully will still be available in December 2019. Pray that there are no flight delays, arrive Auckland around 10:00am and head to ship for check-in. Now, I've never flown in the morning of a cruise before. I've always thought people are insane to do that, so I may convince my husband to accept spending three nights in three different hotels and fly in to Auckland the night before. What is the worst that happens? If we miss ship sail from Auckland can we board at the Bay of Islands? I am assuming that we could.



And just a recap on insane post-cruise plan:
Saturday: Sydney to Cairns
Sunday: GBR or Daintree Rainforest (depending on weather forecast)
Monday: Daintree Rainforest or GBR (whichever we didn't do day before)
Tuesday: Cairns Sydney
Wednesday: Sydney Dallas

It all looks doable on paper although I might have to mortgage my house again. I figure if we can do eight days in a row at Walt Disney World in the parks from open to close every day, going non-stop all day with two pre-teens in the Florida summer heat and humidity,, we can survive this. Sleep is not important! We can sleep on Christmas Weekend when we are back in the U.S.! And then maybe keep sleeping on into January!

Hope you can sleep for a month when you get home.
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