Carnival Legend 4K French Doors no longer open - Sealed shut!

That is a bummer. Did they give a reason why they sealed the French doors closed?

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Bummer. Do you know if this is true of other Spirit Class ships?

Wonder if this will happen to all the 4K rooms on Spirit Class ships. Pride goes in Feb 2019 ... the 4K rooms are awesome, with the ability to open the doors that is.

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That is a bummer. Did they give a reason why they sealed the French doors closed?

 

 

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Carnival customer service is clueless. One person suggested that it might be a safety issue, which is stupid unless they are planning on sealing the doors to the balconies too.

Bummer. Do you know if this is true of other Spirit Class ships?

I was given the impression that this will be happening to all of the Spirit class ships, but I don't know a timeline. Carnival customer service had no idea. I did look on the Carnival site and it still shows the Miracle and Pride as having 4K with French doors. Apparently they can change that whenever they like with no regard to those who have already booked.

Wonder if this will happen to all the 4K rooms on Spirit Class ships. Pride goes in Feb 2019 ... the 4K rooms are awesome, with the ability to open the doors that is.

 

 

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I agree, the 4K rooms are great. We had one 6 years ago in Alaska and really liked it. That is why we booked it on the Journeys cruise from Vancouver to Hawaii. I really wanted to be able to let some fresh air in and to have at least a partial view, especially on an 11 night cruise.

That is a bummer. Did they give a reason why they sealed the French doors closed?

 

 

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I just got a possible update from Carnival (through Facebook). They are saying that the doors have been completely removed and replaced with windows. This is a direct contradiction from what I was told on the phone earlier by Carnival customer service, so take it with a grain of salt.

That is a bummer. Did they give a reason why they sealed the French doors closed?

 

 

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They didn’t seal them. When the Legend was in dry dock, they replaced the doors with floor-to-ceiling windows.

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I think I was in one of these cabins some time ago. Without having actual knowledge of their intent, I would guess that their reason for this change would be to prevent people from leaving the doors open. I believe this adversely affects the air conditioning system for multiple cabins. It would be the same as propping a balcony door open. It is not recommended. Air conditioning doesn't work properly with an open door or window. I know a lot of people like doing this, but if it affects the comfort of others around, I can see them trying to limit the possibility.

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I think I was in one of these cabins some time ago. Without having actual knowledge of their intent, I would guess that their reason for this change would be to prevent people from leaving the doors open. I believe this adversely affects the air conditioning system for multiple cabins. It would be the same as propping a balcony door open. It is not recommended. Air conditioning doesn't work properly with an open door or window. I know a lot of people like doing this, but if it affects the comfort of others around, I can see them trying to limit the possibility.

In that case shouldn't Carnival do the same to all the balcony cabin doors as well ;)

In that case shouldn't Carnival do the same to all the balcony cabin doors as well ;)

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I am sure they would like to.

They just don't have a practical way of doing it. :)

I was not aware of these French Doors in the inside cabins. I never heard of them. If they are inside cabins (no balcony) what do they open to?

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I was not aware of these French Doors in the inside cabins. I never heard of them. If they are inside cabins (no balcony) what do they open to?

 

 

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A view of the lifeboats.

I was not aware of these French Doors in the inside cabins. I never heard of them. If they are inside cabins (no balcony) what do they open to?

 

 

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Yes, pretty much a view of the life boats. However, if you booked early you could usually find one with a view between the boats, which I'm sure people will still do as the view is better. We had one about 6 years ago on an Alaskan cruise and were lucky enough to be between boats. Got a little view, but the main reason we had it was the ability to open the doors and enjoy some fresh air.

This happened at a hotel I stayed at... went back the next year and windows/french doors (no balconies) were sealed shut "for safety". Disappointing.

Having said that, why wouldn't you just book a balcony cabin to begin with? Was there something special (ie location etc) that made those particular cabins desirable?

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This happened at a hotel I stayed at... went back the next year and windows/french doors (no balconies) were sealed shut "for safety". Disappointing.

 

Having said that, why wouldn't you just book a balcony cabin to begin with? Was there something special (ie location etc) that made those particular cabins desirable?

 

 

 

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They priced on an interior rate ...

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Ahh I see. So you're still getting an "oceanview" for an interior rate? Seems fair to me. (If I wanted fresh air I would just book a balcony).

Ahh I see. So you're still getting an "oceanview" for an interior rate? Seems fair to me. (If I wanted fresh air I would just book a balcony).

I do balconies sometimes, but couldn't afford it on an 11 night cruise this time. The 4K is charged as an interior WITH an upcharge for the upgrade to a room WITH French doors. That's how it was booked and that's what I expect. Doesn't seem unreasonable to me. Would you be upset if they sealed the doors to your balcony? Both allow for fresh air, right?

They priced on an interior rate ...

 

 

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With an upcharge for the upgrade to 4K.;p ;p

I do balconies sometimes, but couldn't afford it on an 11 night cruise this time. The 4K is charged as an interior WITH an upcharge for the upgrade to a room WITH French doors. That's how it was booked and that's what I expect. Doesn't seem unreasonable to me. Would you be upset if they sealed the doors to your balcony? Both allow for fresh air, right?

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Seems like a loophole people were taking advantage of to "get fresh air" without paying for it, and they figured out a way to close that loophole. Book an interior (so you don't have to pay for a balcony) get an interior. Easy peasy.

 

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Just like porthole rooms and the rooms overlooking the front of the newer ships with obstructed views (4J?), Carnival chose to classify these as interiors but advertised then with specific attributes of oceanviews while charging higher prices than true interiors.

The point is that OP is not getting what he/she bargained and paid for.

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Not a loophole. These are the highest priced interiors on Spirit class ships and are/were explicitly advertised as having French doors.

 

Just like porthole rooms and the rooms overlooking the front of the newer ships with obstructed views (4J?), Carnival chose to classify these as interiors but advertised then with specific attributes of oceanviews while charging higher prices than true interiors.

 

The point is that OP is not getting what he/she bargained and paid for.

Precisely.

Seems like a loophole people were taking advantage of to "get fresh air" without paying for it, and they figured out a way to close that loophole. Book an interior (so you don't have to pay for a balcony) get an interior. Easy peasy.

 

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What an ignorant statement! I booked what THEY advertised. That's not a loophole, that's selecting what you want. Bye, I'm done with the attitude.

Not a loophole. These are the highest priced interiors on Spirit class ships and are/were explicitly advertised as having French doors.

 

Just like porthole rooms and the rooms overlooking the front of the newer ships with obstructed views (4J?), Carnival chose to classify these as interiors but advertised then with specific attributes of oceanviews while charging higher prices than true interiors.

 

The point is that OP is not getting what he/she bargained and paid for.

 

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Thank you. There are a lot of snobs and trolls on this site. It is nice to see that some people still have some common sense.