How much of a tip for Longshoreman?

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Same words, same sentiment expressed. I had to go back to the first post to make sure this thread wasn't revived from a few years ago.

People, you can tip whatever you want. Some people over tip (and are proud of it) and some don't tip at all (and on the internet they don't mind saying so).

Cruise lines make a suggestion of $1-$2 a bag.

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Last yr out of Seattle dropped our luggage at the designated place, at that time, our "long shore man" - or who ever was going to lift our bags from the ground onto the cart (which I am capable of doing) - gathered "his group" for a nice little speech on how without his professionalism, our bags might encounter who knows what between the parking lot and the 200 ft trip to the ship. All this while there was this obvious stack of (money) bills in his hand and top pocket.

So yes, this was extortion.

JK

That's it. I'm going to increase my tip to $20 from now on.

I like my luggage & would hate to see it go missing. :o

Last thread, I looked up what they make.

The average longshoreman makes right around $100,000 (yes ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS) at year.

The top paid (and the ones doing the cruise ships are typically the most senior), can make over $200,000 a year.

How much do you make?

And how willing are you to tip someone who makes more than you do?????????

Last thread, I looked up what they make.

 

The average longshoreman makes right around $100,000 (yes ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS) at year.

 

The top paid (and the ones doing the cruise ships are typically the most senior), can make over $200,000 a year.

 

How much do you make?

 

And how willing are you to tip someone who makes more than you do?????????

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https://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Longshoreman/Hourly_Rate

A longshoreman's average hourly rate is $24.88 according to your site. That's peanuts. Who thinks $25/hour is some kind of amazing earnings? I don't.

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How do you find your longshoreman? Very rarely do I see the person delivering my bags to the cabin.

Much less the longshore guy

This topic has been done to death. Initially started by a guy in Chicago 10 yrs ago . I forget his cc name but he was vehemently against tipping the baggage handlers at the cruise ports because of their high salaries according to him. I find it hard to believe they make > $ 200,000 a year. Do they work 40 hrs / week or only when ships are in port ? Anyhow , what a waste of time to be equivocating about $5- $10. when you are spending thousands on a cruise. If it is a matter of principle, I hope it brings you great comfort saving such a small amount.

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This topic has been done to death. Initially started by a guy in Chicago 10 yrs ago . I forget his cc name but he was vehemently against tipping the baggage handlers at the cruise ports because of their high salaries according to him. I find it hard to believe they make > $ 200,000 a year. Do they work 40 hrs / week or only when ships are in port ? Anyhow , what a waste of time to be equivocating about $5- $10. when you are spending thousands on a cruise. If it is a matter of principle, I hope it brings you great comfort saving such a small amount.

 

 

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This topic has been done to death. Initially started by a guy in Chicago 10 yrs ago . I forget his cc name but he was vehemently against tipping the baggage handlers at the cruise ports because of their high salaries according to him. I find it hard to believe they make > $ 200,000 a year. Do they work 40 hrs / week or only when ships are in port ? Anyhow , what a waste of time to be equivocating about $5- $10. when you are spending thousands on a cruise. If it is a matter of principle, I hope it brings you great comfort saving such a small amount.

 

 

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Good post. Thank you for it.

I always tip the longshoreman $5 or 10, depending on how many bags. The only thing that bother's me about the practice, is that they do not give you any kind of receipt or stub in return for your bag. I compare them to "Skycaps" doing curbside check-in at airport terminals. They always check your ticket's, and then give you a claim check for each bag. The longshoreman don't do that. They just check to see if you have already put a cabin check on a bag, and if not will give you a blank to fill out. Again, with no receipt.

Unlike the airports, you do not have the option to take your bag to the check in counter yourself...if you do that, you will have to take them with you through security, and onto the ship. The cruise terminal check in counter's do not accept baggage.

Actually, in thinking about it...I don't recall if you can even take large bags thru the security scanner's...seems like they will only fit 'carryon' bags, so in that case you are forced to leave large bags with the porter's.

post that thread source I wanna see it.

Google is your friend

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/dock-workers-union-demands-hurt-consumers/

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-dockworker-pay-20150301-story.html

Plus, in the other thread, there were comments by CHENG (Chief Engineer) and others in the industry.

So how much do you tip the handler that ties the ship to the bollard that keeps the cruise ship from crashing into the birth?

This topic has been done to death. Initially started by a guy in Chicago 10 yrs ago . I forget his cc name but he was vehemently against tipping the baggage handlers at the cruise ports because of their high salaries according to him. I find it hard to believe they make > $ 200,000 a year. Do they work 40 hrs / week or only when ships are in port ? Anyhow , what a waste of time to be equivocating about $5- $10. when you are spending thousands on a cruise. If it is a matter of principle, I hope it brings you great comfort saving such a small amount.

 

 

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You may find it hard to believe, but the baggage handlers are actually Longshoremen and with their Collective Agreement make significant money. The baggage handlers are not the equivalent of minimum wage staff in a restaurant.

The determining factor is not the number of hours they actually work, but how many they get paid for and also all the extras they get for completing "specialised" tasks, etc.

In my years at sea, we have seen many instances where they have worked for 1/2 hr and received a full day's pay. We have also spent many minutes sitting alongside a dock waiting until a certain time to fire lines ashore. Send them one second early and the line handlers rack up mega overtime.

In major ports, most are over $100K and many of them are over $200K and that is before they receive tips.

Google is your friend

 

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/dock-workers-union-demands-hurt-consumers/

 

 

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-dockworker-pay-20150301-story.html

 

 

Plus, in the other thread, there were comments by CHENG (Chief Engineer) and others in the industry.

:eek::eek:It appears that our luggage is being held for ransom after all.

You may find it hard to believe, but the baggage handlers are actually Longshoremen and with their Collective Agreement make significant money. The baggage handlers are not the equivalent of minimum wage staff in a restaurant.

 

 

 

The determining factor is not the number of hours they actually work, but how many they get paid for and also all the extras they get for completing "specialised" tasks, etc.

 

 

 

In my years at sea, we have seen many instances where they have worked for 1/2 hr and received a full day's pay. We have also spent many minutes sitting alongside a dock waiting until a certain time to fire lines ashore. Send them one second early and the line handlers rack up mega overtime.

 

 

 

In major ports, most are over $100K and many of them are over $200K and that is before they receive tips.

Still not worth equivocating over $5.00 . They render a service and I want my bags to be handled well . So , you tip according to how much a person earns. Must be hard figuring how much to leave for a tip.

I’m done with this topic ! !

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Google is your friend

 

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/dock-workers-union-demands-hurt-consumers/

 

 

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-dockworker-pay-20150301-story.html

 

 

Plus, in the other thread, there were comments by CHENG (Chief Engineer) and others in the industry.

https://work.chron.com/average-wage-longshoreman-20463.html

Still not worth equivocating over $5.00 . They render a service and I want my bags to be handled well . So , you tip according to how much a person earns. Must be hard figuring how much to leave for a tip.

 

I’m done with this topic ! !

 

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So am I.

They surely don't need my measly few dollars. ;p

We normally tip ten for our bags

I did not tip for our cruise in Aug 17. I just did not think of it.

The bags made it on fine.

I tip people who go above and beyond their job. Or are in jobs that tips are a part of their wage (waiters/waitresses).

Do you tip the mailman? Do you tip the supermarket cashier? Do you tip at the fast food counter? Do you tip your doctor or dentist?

I do not tip people for doing their well paid job. Especially when they make significantly more money than I do. And I am not underpaid.

I did not tip for our cruise in Aug 17. I just did not think of it.

 

The bags made it on fine.

 

I tip people who go above and beyond their job. Or are in jobs that tips are a part of their wage (waiters/waitresses).

 

Do you tip the mailman? Do you tip the supermarket cashier? Do you tip at the fast food counter? Do you tip your doctor or dentist?

 

 

I do not tip people for doing their well paid job. Especially when they make significantly more money than I do. And I am not underpaid.

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Bad examples sorry. Tradition has already been from the time of Titanic to tip people handling your bags.

 

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Doesn't make it right.

JK

Doesn't make it right.

 

JK

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So how much do you tip the handler that ties the ship to the bollard that keeps the cruise ship from crashing into the birth?

“... crashing into the birth...”? Are you concerned about some neonatal catastrophe? If you meant “berth”, the mooring line secures the ship to the berth - and certainly does not prevent any crashing into it.

Regardless, what possible relationship is there between someone handling your luggage and line handlers hauling in, and securing, lines?