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#42
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If you are going to try to smuggle alcohol in your luggage make sure you do not have bottled water (or any other beverage) also in the luggage. Cruise lines will flag bottled water and it will increase the risk of finding other items.
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I don't know, but to me 'smuggling' alcohol aboard a cruise ship is stealing from the guests that do not. Alcohol sales on cruise ships help defray the costs of running a cruise ship. If those that find saving a few bucks by sneaking booze aboard do it enough the cruise lines will have to cover the loss of income by increasing cruise fares. That's going to impact the 'smugglers' as well as those that follow the rules. Oops, I forgot, rules are for other people. Thanks rum runners .
If I come across [as one poster said of another poster near the beginning of this thread] as "being nasty" I'm not, but I am disappointed that some people feel cheating is clever. If you can't pay you shouldn't play. Stop stealing.
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Bottom line is you MAY or MAY NOT get caught. It's all about security, how backed up check in is, the port you are leaving from. Everything plays a part. Miami security might check thoroughly, Port Canaveral might not. So, you can't go by what others have done or what they have gotten away with. You just have to risk it for yourself. I have used Rumrunners with no problem. 4 of them made it through on me and in my luggage. I have brought "wine" (not) on (packed in luggage and carried on), made it through. That doesn't mean you won't get caught.

Just depends on how security feels that day you check in and how they feel by the time YOU get to them.
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Originally posted by Parrothead_82
A trick that has grown immensely in popularity in recent years is replacing wine with liquor, using food coloring to disguise it as wine and re-corking/re-sealing the bottle. A few years ago, it was a little-known trick and easy to get away with. They used to glance at your wine bottles and nod, then usher you on through like herded cattle.

However, that was then and things are different. Thanks to folks all over social media sites sharing their booze-concealing products and techniques, pretty much all the tricks are now widely known by C&BP. They aren't stupid and they know how to research social media for tips.

I was on a cruise out of New Orleans a few weeks ago and it seemed as if they are on a warpath to catch people doing this now. Now, they take your wine bottles and shine flashlights through the liquid, tilt the bottle in all directions and shake it up to check the consistency, look for sediment, etc. They take your sodas out of their boxes and examine every single can. They meticulously search every carry-on piece you have with you.

I witnessed it on embarkation day, where it took my party 2 hours to get through security and onto the ship because people were getting so throughly searched. It was 90+ degrees that day and we had small kids with us. You do the math.

Security personnel have been trained to know what wine looks like vs liquor during these tests (I saw some of their training posters in a search area). They will confiscate anything even remotely suspicious in a heartbeat now. It means nothing to them to take your things. It would appear that the days of being able to get away with this are over. They're cracking down hard. I just wouldn't even risk it, TBH.

Also need to be considerate of other passengers who have to wait excessively long times in line while these raids take place.


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I didn't find this to be the case on our cruise out of Miami in 2017, or the one in 2016, or the one in 2014. My husband gets twist off red wine, fills it with rum, dyes it red, and buys the heat strink seals online to reseal the bottle. They've never scrutinized our wine bottles. They don't hold flashlights up to them. They look at the bottle to confirm it's a bottle that says wine or champagne, confirm that the seal is intact, and away we go. I guess New Orleans is much stricter than Miami or Port Canaveral.
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#47
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I have had a bottle of wine and a bottle of liquor...shaken them up and found no difference is consistency, bubbles, etc. Not sure what they are looking for when they do this. And not sure how they can PROVE liquor inside a wine bottle isn't wine unless they actually open it up, and that would involve uncorking it, which could be a big problem with people that have actual wine.

I don't really need to go this route any longer since my child is 21 now..... but if the cruise lines would allow 18-21 year olds to drink, LIKE THEY CAN EVERYWHERE IN THE CARIBBEAN, maybe it would cut down on some of the smuggling. NOTE: and even though I may have smuggled liquor on the boat I have ALWAYS purchased an alcoholic drink package for myself. So, not really stealing.
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It just never fails to amaze me that people actually brag about how they so cleverly break the rules and get away with it. I do wonder how it feels to be so special that the rules don't apply to you.


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#49
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Carnival started prohibiting bottled soda and water because of the number of smugglers using them to bring alcohol onboard. Soon Carnival will prohibit bringing wine for the same reason.
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Originally posted by mickeychicky
I have had a bottle of wine and a bottle of liquor...shaken them up and found no difference is consistency, bubbles, etc. Not sure what they are looking for when they do this. And not sure how they can PROVE liquor inside a wine bottle isn't wine unless they actually open it up, and that would involve uncorking it, which could be a big problem with people that have actual wine.

I don't really need to go this route any longer since my child is 21 now..... but if the cruise lines would allow 18-21 year olds to drink, LIKE THEY CAN EVERYWHERE IN THE CARIBBEAN, maybe it would cut down on some of the smuggling. NOTE: and even though I may have smuggled liquor on the boat I have ALWAYS purchased an alcoholic drink package for myself. So, not really stealing.
They don't need to prove anything- if they suspect it's liquor that's enough for them to hold it. Object too much and they would invite you to leave the terminal through the street exit. If you want your 18-20 year old to be able to drink onboard sail with the only cruise line that allows it- NCL.
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Originally posted by Pierlesscruisers
It just never fails to amaze me that people actually brag about how they so cleverly break the rules and get away with it. I do wonder how it feels to be so special that the rules don't apply to you.


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No one is bragging. Someone asked a question, and I told them how my husband managed to do it. How is having a bottle of liquor different than a bottle of wine? Neither myself nor my husband like wine.
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#52
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Originally posted by KatieJayCruise
No one is bragging. Someone asked a question, and I told them how my husband managed to do it. How is having a bottle of liquor different than a bottle of wine? Neither myself nor my husband like wine.
I don't know why wine is allowed - perhaps the same reason beauty products with heating elements (curling iron/flat iron) are permitted while other items with heating elements (steamers/clothes irons/coffee pots) aren't - risk of alienating too many customers.

A couple ways a bottle of wine is different than a bottle of liquor:
-Wine is a much lower alcohol content than liquor. Many grocery stores sell beer and wine, but spirits can only be purchased at state stores (in PA).
-A bottle of wine yields about 4 glasses (depending on the pour) and would likely only last 1-2 days. A bottle of liquor gives many more drinks and could last the whole cruise, likely leading to fewer drinks purchased (assuming 1L bottle and not mini bottles).
#53
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Originally posted by KatieJayCruise
No one is bragging. Someone asked a question, and I told them how my husband managed to do it. How is having a bottle of liquor different than a bottle of wine? Neither myself nor my husband like wine.
They make more money on the bottle of liquor, which is one of the reasons they prohibit the practice.
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Originally posted by KatieJayCruise
No one is bragging. Someone asked a question, and I told them how my husband managed to do it. How is having a bottle of liquor different than a bottle of wine? Neither myself nor my husband like wine.
I'd say one is allowed, the other isn't.


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Originally posted by Magnum60
I don't know, but to me 'smuggling' alcohol aboard a cruise ship is stealing from the guests that do not. Alcohol sales on cruise ships help defray the costs of running a cruise ship. If those that find saving a few bucks by sneaking booze aboard do it enough the cruise lines will have to cover the loss of income by increasing cruise fares. That's going to impact the 'smugglers' as well as those that follow the rules. Oops, I forgot, rules are for other people. Thanks rum runners .
If I come across [as one poster said of another poster near the beginning of this thread] as "being nasty" I'm not, but I am disappointed that some people feel cheating is clever. If you can't pay you shouldn't play. Stop stealing.
Not sure how it is stealing. And if I can't afford to pay, I won't pay.

Basically there are 2 options: I sneak on alcohol and Carnival has a chance to make money of my purchase of mixers (soda package usually) or I don't and I don't buy anything from Carnival. If they sold drinks for a more reasonable price (or not require both my wife & I to both get the drink package with its 15 drink maximum that we wouldn't hit combined or not have to get it for every single day) I'd bite. Or maybe if they would allow me to order a decent beer for my room (some beers they also don't list the size for some reason so you don't know what you are buying). Do I feel a little cheated when I see the people with 1 Liter bottles of wine get by with it no problem? Sure, but it is more disappointed that I didn't do it (and am not going to risk my guaranteed 750ml).

Sneaking it on kind of sucks because it is inconvenient to go back to the room to drink, and you are extremely limited on choice by doing so. Because of it, you end up buying some from the bar anyway because you now are a little looser with the purse strings. There is definitely a mass disadvantage. The one advantage is it is kind of fun. It is also silly that you have the same wine rule for 3 day as 7+ day, when clearly the 3 day is better off there.

I took 2 Listerine bottles no problem onto Carnival Dream and also got some more in port (which is the safest way to do it) as you can carry your drink on board and you can get on and off as you please at non-tender ports.
#56
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Curious if you sneak booze into a land based restaurant because they charge too much? Curious what you think a cruise line should charge for drinks, and based on what factual info is the concept they should charge what you think they should.

Lastly, are cruise lines not allowed to make a profit on their sales of booze? When was that outlawed?
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Originally posted by Jamesatgsu
Not sure how it is stealing. And if I can't afford to pay, I won't pay.



Basically there are 2 options: I sneak on alcohol and Carnival has a chance to make money of my purchase of mixers (soda package usually) or I don't and I don't buy anything from Carnival. If they sold drinks for a more reasonable price (or not require both my wife & I to both get the drink package with its 15 drink maximum that we wouldn't hit combined or not have to get it for every single day) I'd bite. Or maybe if they would allow me to order a decent beer for my room (some beers they also don't list the size for some reason so you don't know what you are buying). Do I feel a little cheated when I see the people with 1 Liter bottles of wine get by with it no problem? Sure, but it is more disappointed that I didn't do it (and am not going to risk my guaranteed 750ml).



Sneaking it on kind of sucks because it is inconvenient to go back to the room to drink, and you are extremely limited on choice by doing so. Because of it, you end up buying some from the bar anyway because you now are a little looser with the purse strings. There is definitely a mass disadvantage. The one advantage is it is kind of fun. It is also silly that you have the same wine rule for 3 day as 7+ day, when clearly the 3 day is better off there.



I took 2 Listerine bottles no problem onto Carnival Dream and also got some more in port (which is the safest way to do it) as you can carry your drink on board and you can get on and off as you please at non-tender ports.


You are always going to have the holier than thou chiming in. I havenít smuggled any alcohol onboard yet, I almost did but got paranoid and left it in the car. This year I just preordered a liter of vodka at the ridiculously high price, but still a lot cheaper than the drinks package. I will still buy some drinks onboard and maybe someday I will have the ballz to try to slip some onboard. My wife doesnít drink and the upcoming 10 day cruise would cost $1194 for the Cheers package. No way Iím paying that, when the whole cruise she may buy $50 tops in specialty coffee and I may spend $300 or so in drinks.
I can understand why the cruise lines make each person over 21 buy the package. Itís not so much if you canít pay donít play for me, itís all about cost effectiveness and in my case the Cheers package is not cost effective.


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Originally posted by drifter42
You are always going to have the holier than thou chiming in. I havenít smuggled any alcohol onboard yet, I almost did but got paranoid and left it in the car. This year I just preordered a liter of vodka at the ridiculously high price, but still a lot cheaper than the drinks package. I will still buy some drinks onboard and maybe someday I will have the ballz to try to slip some onboard. My wife doesnít drink and the upcoming 10 day cruise would cost $1194 for the Cheers package. No way Iím paying that, when the whole cruise she may buy $50 tops in specialty coffee and I may spend $300 or so in drinks.
I can understand why the cruise lines make each person over 21 buy the package. Itís not so much if you canít pay donít play for me, itís all about cost effectiveness and in my case the Cheers package is not cost effective.


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Holier then thou has nothing to do with it. When I agree to the terms of a contract I make every attempt to comply and if complying is that difficult I don't sign. The drink prices on Carnival aren't all that outlandish- 5.50ish for a beer, 6 for a simple mixed drink, 9 for a frozen drink. There have been times where our budget wasn't as robust and I only had 3 drinks a day. I still had fun.
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Originally posted by sparks1093
Holier then thou has nothing to do with it. When I agree to the terms of a contract I make every attempt to comply and if complying is that difficult I don't sign.
Ah, and therein lies the "secret" of the whole thing! A contract with a cruise line is just like a contract with any other person or company. It is one entity giving their "word" that they will do what they have stated in that contract if the other entity goes by the rules set up in that contract. If you don't agree, then don't sign. It's just as if one of those entities leased/rented a living space to the other as long as they didn't, say, bring pets into that living space. The other party agrees and then brings a pet in. Only difference is you substitute a bottle of booze for a pet. One party doesn't keep their word.

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Originally posted by drifter42
You are always going to have the holier than thou chiming in. I havenít smuggled any alcohol onboard yet, I almost did but got paranoid and left it in the car. This year I just preordered a liter of vodka at the ridiculously high price, but still a lot cheaper than the drinks package. I will still buy some drinks onboard and maybe someday I will have the ballz to try to slip some onboard. My wife doesnít drink and the upcoming 10 day cruise would cost $1194 for the Cheers package. No way Iím paying that, when the whole cruise she may buy $50 tops in specialty coffee and I may spend $300 or so in drinks.
I can understand why the cruise lines make each person over 21 buy the package. Itís not so much if you canít pay donít play for me, itís all about cost effectiveness and in my case the Cheers package is not cost effective.


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I bought the Cheers package when on a bachelor party. Wasn't worth it for me, especially since I was sick half the time (have not had the same issue on other 2 cruises, so I don't think sea sickness was an issue). But it was tough, one person really wanted it, and so the other 3 of us who could live without it got roped into doing it. I also hate it because the bartender is better off serving a non-Cheers customer since 15% gratuity will be added to their drink, while a Cheers member may not pay because it was prepaid. I'd rather they just add the 15% to the value of every drink consumed (I tipped extra every single time though so I spent another $40ish).

My last cruise was NCL, and it was unlimited booze for the whole ship, which makes more sense if you want unlimited drinks and that was truly unlimited (unlike Carnival)

Originally posted by sparks1093
Holier then thou has nothing to do with it. When I agree to the terms of a contract I make every attempt to comply and if complying is that difficult I don't sign. The drink prices on Carnival aren't all that outlandish- 5.50ish for a beer, 6 for a simple mixed drink, 9 for a frozen drink. There have been times where our budget wasn't as robust and I only had 3 drinks a day. I still had fun.
I don't think the drinks at the bar are a massive ripoff (at least in comparison to resorts and nice restaurants, other than the cheap beer is only comparable to a sporting venue), and if they had happy hours it wouldn't be bad at all. The drink package is a ripoff (for anyone not drinking 10+ per day, which is hard to do when not drinking beer or shots). The in room pre-order is a massive ripoff. Malibu Rum is about $20 for a 1.75L bottle, but for my room it is $85/L? Jack Daniels at $95 is over $4 per typical shot. You are asking me to pay typical per shot bar prices for an entire bottle.

I'd rather they exclude the bottle of wine and the packs of soda and instead charge me half what they do for in room orders. When you consider what they sell for in the fun shops, it is clear they'd still be making a killing off of me. I'm sure Carnival has made projections, and it shows these are the price points they should use. I just wish they did it differently. So much of a cruise is excess that I don't need (food more than anything).

And it isn't about what I can afford, it is about being reasonable. I tip my porter, my servers, and my room attendant. If I wanted to be cheap, I wouldn't do that. I'd also have them remove the optional gratuity they add on at the end of the cruise.