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Getaway - Long time cruiser, first time NCL review Feb 11-18, 2018


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The skinny:

Married couple with no kids with ~100 nights on Royal Caribbean and 20+ nights on Disney Cruise Lines.

 

We normally travel alone, but this was to be a family cruise for the MIL/Step-FIL's 20th anniversary. Still a relatively small group of 12, but a group cruise nonetheless. The step-SIL decided on NCL due to her kids sailing free with the promotion. She chose the NCL Dawn (I know... it says Getaway in the thread title) because of the route. I had been wanting to try one of the newer NCL ships for a long time and suggested the Getaway or the Escape instead. She insisted on the Western route for reasons unknown (I will almost always default to Eastern if given the choice) and that made the Escape OUT.

 

The group agreed that for the same price we'd prefer the much newer and larger ship. The Step-SIL agreed and we booked.

 

Thankfully, as a much more seasoned cruiser, I took the reins on the port excursions after some initial weirdness. She hadn't cruised in like 15 years. She's fully capable, but my info was a lot more current and I'm very involved here on CC.

 

Boarding:

I'm not sure if it is a product of PORT OF MIAMI or a product of NCL, but the boarding was really crappy. We drove from Orlando and arrived around 11:30-11:45. It was a mess. Even decks board on this side, odd decks board on that side. You have to stand outside in the sun until they let you in for scanning. THEN you have to wait in line twice on the inside.

 

We made our way to the desk the better part of an hour later. Holy crap. Maybe I'm just used to something different, but everyone along the way was 100% ticked off and grumpy. We got to the desk and there was no "Hey! I see this is your first NCL cruise, welcome aboard!" or even a "Hello." We got a "Papers and documentation?" and nothing friendly whatsoever. This would become a theme on our cruise. We started referring to it as Dismal Cruise Line's I Can't Getaway. Someone in our group started calling the ship an internment camp for crew members. Not a lot of smiles this week.

 

We boarded the ship to silence from the crew and spray bottles of sanitizer.

 

The kids wanted to swim and after our long drive we wanted to eat, so we all headed up to the Garden Café. The buffet was one of the most impressive things on the ship for us. It was the best one we've been to on any ship in our cruising history. It's not as pretty as the Disney ships, but the food was better. It was much easier and more comfortable than any Royal ship we've been on. The theme nights in the buffet and MULTIPLE stations for fresh made things (crepes, omelets, pizzas, ice cream scoops, etc.) made for some excellent choices.

 

As we were watching the kids swim, the announcement that the rooms were ready came. We headed down to our rooms to drop off our backpacks and see them.

 

MORE TO COME!

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We just boarded the Princess Sapphire in Singapore, got out of the cab to get in line at 11:45 and made it to our cabin at 1:25. This is about normal for us . We got to RCI at 1:45 and were at our cabin in 20 minutes, so often it is a matter of timing.

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My journey continues with The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. Although, I'm going to substitute Weird for Ugly. Nothing was jaw-droppingly horrible on this trip.

 

 

The Good:

I like to start things as positive as I can, so I'll start out with the things we really enjoyed from this trip.

 

The room was quite nice. It was one of the smallest we'd ever been in, but it was really quite nice. NCL didn't clog the room up with extra random chairs or couches too small to function like Royal sometimes does. We had an inside room due to not really having any choice whatsoever on dates. The balcony rooms were out of our desired range for this trip. The room had EXCELLENT lighting and was very comfortable. The bed wasn't a slab of concrete and the bathroom was laid out nicely. The shower was large and the storage in the entire cabin was both usable and spacious. The beds were tall enough to slide our bags under with zero problems. The closets were just fine and the safe worked fine. All-in-all I'd call this a really nice room for an interior cruise ship cabin. I intentionally picked a cabin very far away from the action. I'd highly recommend cabin 5601 if you want solitude, no one running in your hall, and good napping. We had no neighbors.

 

The water slides and ropes course were huge hits with our family. They were so much fun and the lines were never overly long. My nearly 70 year old step-FIL even did them all... much to the surprise of everyone. Poppy (as he's known to his grandkids) was going soooo crazy trying all the items we started calling him Sloppy Poppy (even funnier since he doesn't drink alcohol) because he was in a drunken stupor with all the activities. Walking the plank over the side of the ship was the most fun/popular item. We had one kid that was in a weird spot weight-wise. She's 8 and small for her age. According to her mother, she was too light for the drop slide and too heavy for the trampoline. She was sad, but still had fun.

 

The Tropicana Room. This was BY FAR our favorite free restaurant. It had live entertainment and the service was solid. We still couldn't pay people to smile and be jovial with one major exception: the last night we celebrated the anniversary we were on the cruise for and 3 fun crew members came out and sang to the in-laws. They were so fun and made it a great night.

 

O'Sheehan's. We spent more time here than in most places. My BIL and I played darts (oddly, neither of us are dart players at home) here several of the nights. The games cost $1 a person, per game, but it was easily the best pay deal on the ship. We ordered drinks, got to know the bar staff, and ate snacks here a few times.

 

The spa. My wife always visits the spa. A massage very early in the cruise is her thing. It always costs more than home, but it makes her extremely happy. Making her extremely happy is a good thing for me, so it is a built-in cost of cruising for us. She said the spa was nice, clean, and within a reasonable window the same as the Royal/Disney spas. We intended to get the thermal spa package to have personal space away from the family, but the family bristled at this. TO ME, this seemed to make it more desirable to purchase, but to my wife this led to her vote being a firm no on the thermal pass. One of the things about normally traveling alone (and we've done a lot of traveling) is you are used to it being a 2 person vote on everything. Having 12 opinions... well 8 adults voting... is a wholly different and unusual thing for us.

 

The Million Dollar Quartet show was the best show I've ever seen on the ocean. Loved it. How factual the show is, I'm not sure, but it was one heck of a show. The players were excellent. We met up with them a few times around the ship and they were nice. We even played darts next to them for a while. Nice guys.

 

The girls all loved the Burn the Floor show. The little girls especially. The only odd thing was that it was announced the dancers would appear outside for photos and we waited (the 8 year old and 12 year old were jumping around giddy) and they never appeared. We waited where they announced for nearly 30 minutes and nothing happened. It wasn't a bad show even from someone completely disinterested in it... namely me.

 

Paquito is the only CD in our entire history of cruising to make a direct impact on our cruise. Thankfully, it was a good one. We met him early on our first at-sea day and got to talk to him for quite a while. Just normal talk, not "I'm the CD and I'm on stage" talk. He was a really nice guy and we enjoyed talking to him. He showed us around the ship a little bit. Later, he sent us some chocolate covered strawberries and an invite to the Ice Bar. He also saw us a couple dozen times around the ship, in port, and called us by name from across the room a couple of times just to ask us how our trip was. We were honest with him without (at least trying not to) whining about the general unfriendliness we'd experienced. He personally went above and beyond and was the nicest person we found on the ship.

 

Generally speaking, we found nothing about cruising on NCL that seemed different than Royal if you don't really count the friendly factor. Nothing functioned drastically different about boarding, sailing, and/or getting off at ports. The Freestyle dining was different than My Time Dining, but even that wasn't night/day different.

 

The drink package came with our cruise and we enjoyed it. We drank a lot more than we normally due on cruises just because it was free, but we don't overdrink, so it was a nice perk that we didn't go crazy with. Was it worth it? I'm sure it was. I've seen that the tips/tax equal roughly 2-3 drinks a day. We easily drank at least 3 beverages a day, especially when you include the Pepsi I had with dinner each night and the mimosas the girls had with breakfast each morning.

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The Good (continued):

Pepper grinders on the tables!!! W00t! I really liked this.

 

I also liked the abundance of hand sanitizing stations around the ship and sinks in the buffet. I do understand that hand sanitizing has a lot of pros/cons and most importantly that actually washing your hands is important, but I'm always thankful when I see someone sneeze or cough and sanitize. That's at least something in the positive direction since common surfaces are abundant in cruising.

 

 

 

The Bad:

Well... this is probably where I lose friends I didn't have yet in the NCL loyal crowd.

 

The ship itself is a major bad in my book. The design is extremely poor for anyone who dislikes cigarette smoke. The 6-7-8 Atrium and midship staircase are both beautiful, but you hit a massive wall of smoke when you get about 200' from either of them on decks 6 & 8 (the casino is on 7) and it will hit you hard if you have any sensitivity or dislike of smoke.

 

I'm a live & let live guy on smoking. I don't go to the casino because I know it is a haven for smokers. It's a rough world for smokers in today's world, but I feel deservedly so. Smoking is one of few vices (drinking and driving being another) where YOUR vice becomes MY problem. Smoke doesn't see walls or lines where the carpet changes color. It goes everywhere. I *try* to stay away from known smoking locations and I'm not someone who walks into a smoking area and waves my hands/squishes up my nose. However, there were far too many smoking places on this ship.

 

The same problem goes for the Waterfront. We went out there several times, but each time smokers drove us back inside. The exception was the section of the Waterfront on the back of the ship with no bars. We stood out there several times and were never around smokers.

 

Ditto for the Raw Bar, Wasabi and especially Bliss and Shanghai. Those last 2 were basically IN the casino. We sat down to eat at Shanghai and there was a blackjack tournament going on that had probably 25 smokers in and around the tables watching. It was nuts. We left prior to ordering because it was just too bad.

 

The smoking COMBINED with exhaust fumes also ruined Spice H2O for us. Events held on this party deck were beautiful, but all allowed smoking. The exhaust fumes from the funnel were extremely strong here, as well. We went to a couple of the parties up here, but never stayed long because of the smoking/fumes. It was truly a waste of a great location and what seemed like they could have been great parties. The waterfall area looked awesome, but we didn't use it.

 

***end smoking issues if you don't want to read them***

 

The pool deck was microscopic. People were jammed in like sardines and I believe it is because where the Haven is located or maybe as an incentive to pay for the Haven???? It was the most crowded deck I've ever been on in my entire cruise life. There were people everywhere and they were jammed in. Finding a lounger anywhere was the worst we've ever seen, as well.

 

We truly missed the Royal chair hog program where the attendants will remove towels after 20-30 minutes of inactivity. I asked a couple of attendants and they said they won't remove towels. One attendant told me the people probably went to lunch and would be back in an hour or two. DUH!!! That's the point of removing towels from chair hogs. I finally just got fed up and we stood talking/having a drink around loungers we wanted for about 20 minutes. No one came back to the towels and I folded them up, put them on another chair and sat down. We sat on those chairs for THREE HOURS (I was napping, the wife was reading) and no one came back. She was awake the entire time and said no one came to any of the nearest dozen chairs for the entire time we were there. A dozen chairs with towels for three hours. That's insulting.

 

Savor & Taste were easily two of the worst dining rooms we've been in. We didn't do any specialty dining, but we did the following: D1 - Savor, D2 - Tropicana Room, D3 - Taste, D4 - O'Sheehan's, D5 - Tropicana Room, D6 - O'Sheehan's, D7 - Tropicana Room. Savor & Taste served the same meals as Tropicana, but with seriously bad service.

 

Story time... on D1 we were at Margaritaville having some drinks. Paquito announced that you could make dining reservations at ANY host stand or by calling XXXX. We went straight to the M'ville host and asked to book. She said she couldn't do it. She suggested we go see the hosts in the buffet. We did and met a lady who told us that we weren't listening and that we had to go to our stateroom and book on the TV. Mind you, this is my wife who is like the kindest, softest woman. My wife was SUPER polite to the lady and she was nasty, nasty, nasty rude. We decided to just wait until we got back to the room. Flash forward an hour or two and we're exploring the ship. Six of us were having a drink at the bar between Savor & Taste. My BIL sees someone appear at the desk of Savor and he says "Oh, since we're going to eat here, I wonder if we should just show up when we want to eat? Can they take 12?" and he said he was going to ask. Who did he encounter at the desk? The same lady. She wasn't pleased and told him that he needed to book on his TV. She then left and a male crew member came by. He said he heard our question and that we should just come back when we wanted to eat and he'd be at the desk. He asked about when and said 12 would be fine around that time. We came back and got in fine. She was super grumpy, though. FYI we talked to the host at Le Bistro a few minutes later and she confirmed that the announcement was correct that you could book at any host stand. She said that a lot of the crew just think it is annoying to do so. She also confirmed that 12 at Taste or Savor was no issue and we didn't need to bother booking them.

 

The drunkenness. This is a by-product of so many people having the drink packages, I'm sure. WOW were there a ton of drunk people. I was at the Wave Pool Bar getting a drink and there was a semi-conscious girl sitting in the chair. ODDLY... during one of her semi-awake moments (no joke, the 5 minutes I was in line I saw her pop in and out of consciousness) she ordered a drink from MI AMIGO RICK (his name wasn't Rick on his nametag) and pass out. He still gave her a drink and took the card from her hand. Bartending rule #1, you don't serve people who are visibly past their limit. On another visit, I also witnessed another girl about to spew chunks on the bar. She was dry heaving. I told her boyfriend, he told me she was fine. A different non-"Rick" bartender confirmed that she was and made the boyfriend get her away from the bar.

 

There was a large-ish fight on D7 in the hot tub. Two drunk girls and their parties were fighting over something unknown. It got a little ugly and a man who might have been the main bad girl's boyfriend was lifting her in the air to carry her away. Security got involved and we also got to see some poor pool server have to hop fully-clothed into the hot tub to stop the fight. The main bad girl also decided to keep the fight going by herself for a full 10 minutes after the actual fight stopped. No one else was fighting, except her. I think one of her own friends wound up slapping her because we heard a hard slap and no one but her friends were over there.

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Great review, poncho1973! I enjoy reading reviews but read them with a grain of salt. What some view as a major issue might just be a bump in the road for me. It’s all about the persons perspective. That doesn't make it wrong; we just see things differently. No salt required for your review. You included a lot of detail and you tell a great story.

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Great review, poncho1973! I enjoy reading reviews but read them with a grain of salt. What some view as a major issue might just be a bump in the road for me. It’s all about the persons perspective. That doesn't make it wrong; we just see things differently. No salt required for your review. You included a lot of detail and you tell a great story.

 

Thank you.

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The pool deck was microscopic. People were jammed in like sardines and I believe it is because where the Haven is located or maybe as an incentive to pay for the Haven???? It was the most crowded deck I've ever been on in my entire cruise life. There were people everywhere and they were jammed in. Finding a lounger anywhere was the worst we've ever seen, as well.

On Getaway, the pools are on deck 15 and the Haven is on deck 16.

 

We truly missed the Royal chair hog program where the attendants will remove towels after 20-30 minutes of inactivity.

NCL gives 60 minutes.

 

No one came back to the towels and I folded them up, put them on another chair and sat down. We sat on those chairs for THREE HOURS (I was napping, the wife was reading) and no one came back. She was awake the entire time and said no one came to any of the nearest dozen chairs for the entire time we were there. A dozen chairs with towels for three hours. That's insulting.

The people who left them there for hours were wrong.

Removing items that are not yours is wrong.

Which is the greater wrong is a matter of opinion...

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On Getaway, the pools are on deck 15 and the Haven is on deck 16.

I certainly understand that, but there are no single level outdoor pools on this ship, nor are there covered pools, nor are there covered pool lounging spots under the Haven. Thus, the pool location COULD be impeded by the Haven layout. As there is nothing over your combustion engine car's hood, only the engine below it, that doesn't make the hood a great space for a trunk or even more seating.

 

NCL gives 60 minutes.

The 3 attendants I spoke with didn't even act like there was ANY limit, but I understand.

 

The people who left them there for hours were wrong.

Removing items that are not yours is wrong.

Which is the greater wrong is a matter of opinion...

It isn't like I stole their stuff. I respectfully folded their towels and set them on an adjacent chair. One thing I left out was that when we left, I actually set the folded towels back on the same chairs. THREE HOURS. That's a big point here.

 

I firmly believe that moving a chair hog's towels isn't the wrong action here. I didn't walk up, take someone's hat, sunglasses, and book and throw them in the garbage or take them back to my room. It was a ship's towel, it wasn't stolen, nor was it hidden from the one supposed to be in possession of it. Even by the 60 minute rule, it was well more than 3.5x over that limit without being accounted for.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Totally agree with this review . Read my “live from Getaway “from feb 4.

I was an avid follower and asked you about the smoking, you warned me. Unfortunately, you were SOOOO true. Plus that was a really gross cockroach story. I'm glad I saw it AFTER I came home.

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I certainly understand that, but there are no single level outdoor pools on this ship, nor are there covered pools, nor are there covered pool lounging spots under the Haven. Thus, the pool location COULD be impeded by the Haven layout. As there is nothing over your combustion engine car's hood, only the engine below it, that doesn't make the hood a great space for a trunk or even more seating.

 

 

The 3 attendants I spoke with didn't even act like there was ANY limit, but I understand.

 

 

It isn't like I stole their stuff. I respectfully folded their towels and set them on an adjacent chair. One thing I left out was that when we left, I actually set the folded towels back on the same chairs. THREE HOURS. That's a big point here.

 

I firmly believe that moving a chair hog's towels isn't the wrong action here. I didn't walk up, take someone's hat, sunglasses, and book and throw them in the garbage or take them back to my room. It was a ship's towel, it wasn't stolen, nor was it hidden from the one supposed to be in possession of it. Even by the 60 minute rule, it was well more than 3.5x over that limit without being accounted for.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was an avid follower and asked you about the smoking, you warned me. Unfortunately, you were SOOOO true. Plus that was a really gross cockroach story. I'm glad I saw it AFTER I came home.

 

 

 

Glad i wasn’t the only one who thought this was sub par effort from NCL. As a seasoned cruiser , i can’t imagine what some people who’ve never cruised were left thinking . NCL can and did do better before . Hopefully it’ll return to its previous standards

 

 

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Great review, can't wait to read the "weird" :) I'm heading on her this coming Sunday... so good to be prepared!

 

The Weird:

OK... so I hope I didn't oversell this.

 

The weird stateroom attendant. First, he did a wonderful job. Our room was done incredibly well. Always spotless and very timely cleaned. However, he was a ghost. We met him on Sunday morning as we were leaving the room to go home. I thought he did such a good job that I wanted to slide him a few extra bucks. I had to hunt him down to give him money! We were in and out of our room a lot. We slept late some days, we woke up early some days. We came back for naps when we couldn't find a lounger. We forgot things and had to make pit stops in the room. We first arrived at our room about 10 minutes after they announced they were open. Nothing. I called him once and noted he took 1 beach towel, but didn't replace it.

 

****NCL puts 2 beach towels in your room, you throw them on the bathroom floor and get them replaced, unlike DCL or Royal****

 

He knocked on the door, but in the 10-20 seconds before I got off the bed and to the door he was LONG GONE. The towel was outside the door. We saw several attendants in the hall... none were ours. In an even weirder moment, I asked a guy in the hall if he knew if our guy was around. He responded that HE was him. This guy's nametag had another name and he definitely wasn't the guy we met on Sunday with the correct nametag on. It should also be noted that we had never seen this man in the hallway either!!! It was like some weird, foreign Candid Camera show or something where they switch people behind an object. The SIL/BIL also never met their stateroom host, but they had a different guy than us.

 

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The weird croutons. It's really hard to mess up croutons. Stale bread with some oil or butter and spices or herbs on it. This ship has no idea how to make croutons. They were both mushy and hard at the same time. It was like the VERY VERY VERY outside was mushy. Like the first 1/16th of an inch was soggy and then the entire rest of the crouton was as hard as a brick. Like your fork and knife couldn't break them kind of hard. You could line a bunker with these croutons. We had them with soup and salads all week. Awful. World's most bizarre and awful croutons. We also found them very odd smelling. Like instead of garlic, oil, butter, and/or herbs they were seasoned with rotten milk instead for kicks and giggles. All week.

 

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The weird use of the atrium. The atrium pretty much became the catch-all for anything on the ship. On one hand that makes sense because it is a central meeting place. On the other it makes no sense at all. They played tons of games there. They played movies on the giant screen there. They had live music there. They replayed events there. They had shows there. All those things SOUND awesome.

 

The weird part is the reality of it. The 8th floor opens down to all these events. However, the only people on the 8th floor that can watch, see, or participate are on the railing. (Sidebar... ladies in skirts... CLOSE YOUR LEGS at the 8th floor bar glass because it was quite the show) These people are sitting at higher bar stools, so they are too tall to see over and the action is all going on below. The bar stools are too close for anyone to mingle around between them and watch.

 

This means you have an entire floor of people that can HEAR nothing but the event at volume 11, but see only about the top 1/8 of the screen above all the people.

 

Imagine if you needed to speak to someone in the guest service department? Or if you needed to book an excursion? Or make a reservation? Or visit the next cruise agent? YES! All of those are located about 30' away from the heart of the ship's action. The GSR agents who had the pleasure of answering the phones were doing so with one ear plugged with a finger and shouting. Imagine the music for the game going at full blast and you're trying to tell the person at the desk "fkljf fjlfs; kensl kn eln ke ksl kelsle nensel sekj... (GAME GOES SILENT) AND THEN MY KID'S GIANT POOP CLOGGED THE TOILET!! That's what I was saying on the phone earlier. Sorry."

 

It's also weird for bar service and that it is the home of the bakery. If there was an event going on, you couldn't possibly order from either of those two. This is supposed to be the main bar of the ship. This was the bar where everything unique was to be ordered. Completely off-limits during these events because there simply isn't enough seating anywhere else there. So everyone crowds the bar and bakery. Trust me. We tried. You had to come back when something wasn't going on.

 

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It's not that weird, but it was definitely odd that almost everyone we met seemed so completely miserable. I know it's not the greatest job in the world, but it's a living. I live in Orlando, the tourist capital of the world. I know the tourist industry. It's not all roses and smiles, but abject misery is bad. So many gloomy faces. I'd try to compliment someone or smile at them and get almost nothing back. The I Can't Getaway attitude was pervasive.

 

 

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I'll gladly attempt to answer any questions as best I can.

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We just booked this cruise for later this spring - and now I am terrified I made an awful mistake. You listed my top 3 annoyances - smoke, drunks, and poor customer service... not exactly how I want to spend a $7k vacation.

 

Let me stress that any day on vacation is better than a day not on vacation. We had a good time. We did some amazing excursions and had a great time together. The strengths of this ship were very strong... the drinks were tasty (if a little weak), the ropes and water slides were AMAZING, and the buffet & Tropicana Room were very solid dining options.

 

BUT, the smoke was brutal. There were several drunks. The customer service (other than the booking lady) was GOOD, but robotic and without much joy.

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Thanks. I am in such desperate need of a vacation that I NEED this one to be stress free and worth the time and money. (I have a job where the stress of leaving and coming back makes it so that it is just easier not to take vacation - there is a definite cost to being away.) :)

 

Do you have excursion recommendations? Our daughter is excited to see the mayan ruins, but there are so many - and I can't find many reviews.

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I certainly understand that, but there are no single level outdoor pools on this ship, nor are there covered pools, nor are there covered pool lounging spots under the Haven. Thus, the pool location COULD be impeded by the Haven layout. As there is nothing over your combustion engine car's hood, only the engine below it, that doesn't make the hood a great space for a trunk or even more seating.

The Spa is under the Haven. It has a covered thalassotherapy pool and loungers. If anything, the Spa/fitness center (not the Haven) takes away from deck space on deck 15.

 

 

I firmly believe that moving a chair hog's towels isn't the wrong action here. I didn't walk up, take someone's hat, sunglasses, and book and throw them in the garbage or take them back to my room. It was a ship's towel, it wasn't stolen, nor was it hidden from the one supposed to be in possession of it. Even by the 60 minute rule, it was well more than 3.5x over that limit without being accounted for.

I'm not defending the leaving of items for over an hour (I stated that those people were wrong). However, the moving of items that were placed there by someone else is also wrong. If anything is lost, damaged, or stolen (or claimed as such), the person moving the items would be in the wrong more than the person who left the items there. In your case, you didn't steal or damage anything but the person who put the items there could easily (falsely) claim otherwise.

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