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Question Is it doable to make a connecting flight in Amsterdam to the USA with a 1hr10min between flights. We only have two options 1hr10min or 1hr20min. We will be connecting to the USA from Vienna Austria. We’re not feeling real great about this. Do you think we stand a decent chance of making it and not loosing our good seats?

 

 

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Which airline(s)? If changing airlines neither would workespecially if you have not been in Schipol before. VIE uses a number of airlines with smaller planes to AMS. If you are changing airlines then neither would be my choice.

Which cabin(s)? If you are moving via the same airline or partner and are seated in first or business you would have a better chance. Not guaranteed just better.

Final destination? And, when is your trip?

If you only have two options then you are probably staying within one air alliance because there are many options to the US from both VIE and AMS. It's hard to help without more information.

If you will fill in the blanks we can all help with viable suggestions. Thanks.

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Question Is it doable to make a connecting flight in Amsterdam to the USA with a 1hr10min between flights. We only have two options 1hr10min or 1hr20min. We will be connecting to the USA from Vienna Austria. We’re not feeling real great about this. Do you think we stand a decent chance of making it and not loosing our good seats?

 

 

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alcap1. We are flying a Delta flight operated by KLM and transferring to a Delta flight nonstop to Portland Oregon. We have the first seats behind first class in premium economy. This flight is the end of July. We have not been in Schipol for many years.

 

We realize this is far from ideal and seems to be the best option with being able to fly direct to PDX without adding an additional connecting flight. Normally we would pick something with 2-3 hrs but we did not have options with Delta.

 

 

 

 

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If you are committed to a DL itinerary, you have that one short connection (not sure where you are getting both 1:10 and 1:20). But you have other options:

 

A) Double connects if you insist on DL

B) Single connects through LHR, ORD, IAD, or EWR

C) Double connects on over a dozen carrier combinations other than DL

 

What is important to YOU?

 

Personally, I'd want more than 1:10 at AMS, given the additional security screening for USA bound flights, plus outbound immigration. And AMS has some interesting things to do (though the odds are horrible at the casino). Have you researched through ITA Matrix?

 

Finally, it sounds like you already have your tickets and are looking for post-hoc confirmation. Is that the case?

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FlyerTalk is, as usual, spot on. Look, 1h10 in AMS can be done, and is one of the few airports in Europe where I would try it...but you do have additional security, and you do have immigration since it's your exit point from Schengen. With priority status and business class, I've done 1h20 in AMS (heading to ATL on KLM) and it was fine...but barely, and I would have wanted a bit more time. Plus, my inbound from HAM was on-time, which is a necessity in your situation.

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Thank you for your comments. Yes we are concerned and unfortunately are stuck with Delta. Almost every connecting flight from Vienna comes through Amsterdam and has anywhere from 1hr - 1.5hr. Yes we can make several stops including coming through both AMS and JFK which has 1hr and if anything is late we would be stuck there as well. Delta also connects through CDG on Air France with 1.5 hrs or in some cases 1 hr. That would be a definite missed flight. We are not fans of Delta but we are stuck with them. If we miss a flight they will have to rebook us. We did take out Deltas Insurance which is something we never do so at least we have a backup. Thanks for your comments.

 

Curious to the percentage of passengers who actually make these connections! Delta may be dealing with passengers with lots of missed flights!

 

 

 

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Thank you for your comments. Yes we are concerned and unfortunately are stuck with Delta. Almost every connecting flight from Vienna comes through Amsterdam and has anywhere from 1hr - 1.5hr. Yes we can make several stops including coming through both AMS and JFK which has 1hr and if anything is late we would be stuck there as well. Delta also connects through CDG on Air France with 1.5 hrs or in some cases 1 hr. That would be a definite missed flight. We are not fans of Delta but we are stuck with them. If we miss a flight they will have to rebook us. We did take out Deltas Insurance which is something we never do so at least we have a backup. Thanks for your comments.

 

Curious to the percentage of passengers who actually make these connections! Delta may be dealing with passengers with lots of missed flights!

 

 

 

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Honestly, plenty of people make them every day. It just may be a bit of a rush and any delay on your VIE-AMS flight would cause problems. That's why I say I would want more time...but most people do make that connection.

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Yes we are concerned and unfortunately are stuck with Delta.
Can I ask why you are "stuck with Delta"? Are you talking abotu this trip alone, or are you tied to Delta for some other reason? There are some perfectly good alternatives with more relaxed connections, if you don't want to take the risk. Take this as a random example (using random dates as I have no idea when you're travelling):-

 

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Curious to the percentage of passengers who actually make these connections! Delta may be dealing with passengers with lots of missed flights!
The vast majority of passengers will make these connections. It costs the airline money to have to reaccommodate passengers, so they have an incentive to set minimum connection times at a realistic level. It's a numbers game, of course - some days it won't work out so well. But those are expensive days for the airline, and so they won't be doing anything that unduly hurts themselves.
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Well we’re not exactly stuck with Delta but coming from the west coast we have been messed up too many times in NY Atlanta Chicago and the last time Houston after being up for nearly 24 hours. Delta has the only non stop between Portland and Amsterdam our first destination. We will be coming back via Vienna. AMS to PDX is a non stop.

 

United has us stopping at various hubs around the country. Air Canada which we have used before is either a tight 1hr connection in London or the economy plus fares are more than we can afford. By the time we spent the whole day researching various variations Delta was unfortunately the best option for two economy plus seats. Unfortunately business class tickets are beyond our reach since we are now retired and no longer accruing the air miles that we once did. We’re also not as fast of runners as we once were either!

 

I’m on hold to Delta now for what that’s worth if anything to see if we can possibly change the Vienna segment on the way home to a late afternoon early evening the night before so we can spend the night near Schipol and still remain on our nonstop to Portland. I realize this might be a long shot but hopefully I will get someone in a good mood with the east coast in a snowstorm with lots of cancelled stranded passengers! Delta is probably pretty overwhelmed right now!

 

 

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I wanted to write back to tell you that my faith in air travel is restored! Delta worked it out without charging us for the change since we booked these tickets last evening. We kept our rt Amsterdam seats and we ended up getting 500$ refund. They cancelled the Vienna segment without a fee. We will now book a KLM ticket to Amsterdam for the afternoon before and get ourselves a hotel. My faith in Delta has been restored. Of course we had to be connected beyond the original agent to a resolution dept. but alas it came together.

 

Thank you all for your help and suggestions.

 

 

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I wanted to write back to tell you that my faith in air travel is restored! Delta worked it out without charging us for the change since we booked these tickets last evening. We kept our rt Amsterdam seats and we ended up getting 500$ refund. They cancelled the Vienna segment without a fee. We will now book a KLM ticket to Amsterdam for the afternoon before and get ourselves a hotel. My faith in Delta has been restored. Of course we had to be connected beyond the original agent to a resolution dept. but alas it came together.

 

Thank you all for your help and suggestions.

 

 

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There are a Sheraton, a Hilton, and a CitizenM right at AMS that are super convenient for your overnight. However, if you're up for it, another night in Amsterdam is never a bad thing, and it's a quick train ride. I often stay at the Doubletree Centraal which is right next to Centraal Station and can have you to/from the airport within 20 minutes.

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Wonderful,

We did the VIE-AMS-ATL and onward last year and overnighted as well. It was stress relieving!!!!!

As an aside.....the Sheraton is connected to and the closest to the terminal. The Hilton is a schlep with moving sidewalks past the Sheraton but that's where we stayed. It was opened less than 2 years ago and quite nice. The Citizen M is across the street but still walkable from the terminal although outside.

Delta can really work well if you get the right agent.

Don't forget when you check in at AMS you will have to go through another Delta security check before you head to your gate. The station is within the secured area and unless it has been moved it is also near the center court with gouda and chocolate everywhere.

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Which airline(s)? If changing airlines neither would workespecially if you have not been in Schipol before. VIE uses a number of airlines with smaller planes to AMS. If you are changing airlines then neither would be my choice.

Which cabin(s)? If you are moving via the same airline or partner and are seated in first or business you would have a better chance. Not guaranteed just better.

Final destination? And, when is your trip?

If you only have two options then you are probably staying within one air alliance because there are many options to the US from both VIE and AMS. It's hard to help without more information.

If you will fill in the blanks we can all help with viable suggestions. Thanks.

Hi, I was hoping you could assist me with Amsterdam knowledge if you had a moment. My flight is late November. First Viking River Cruise I did opt for Viking custom Air to have some what of a say in planning my flight however, I’m clueless on picking one from Basel Switzerland. It looks like we must take KLM to Amsterdam and can choose between 2 flights both departing Basel at 11:20 Am One layover is plenty of time that being 4 hours with a KLM plane across the pond to Atlanta, This was a favorable option considering the longer layover it’s the KLM flight I’m unsure of, The second option is KLM at 1120 from Basel to AMS with a 2 1/2 hour layover then a DELTA return to US flight to Detroit. Any advice on choosing a flight to be ticketed out 7 months in advance would surly be much obliged. Any help I can get from seasoned travelers I would be grateful for your advice.

Thank you,

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It looks like we must take KLM to Amsterdam and can choose between 2 flights both departing Basel at 11:20 Am One layover is plenty of time that being 4 hours with a KLM plane across the pond to Atlanta, This was a favorable option considering the longer layover it’s the KLM flight I’m unsure of, The second option is KLM at 1120 from Basel to AMS with a 2 1/2 hour layover then a DELTA return to US flight to Detroit.
Where are you actually trying to get to?

 

And why are you tied to KLM and Delta? Are you being offered any options on other airlines, or with connections in other places? There are alternative routings to both Atlanta and Detroit that don't go through Amsterdam, so I'm wondering why you're being offered only these two.

 

If you must take one or other of these options, then they look to me like they're likely to be the following:-

 

BSL-AMS 1120-1250 KL1986

AMS-DTW 1520-1823 KL6019 (operated by DL139)

 

BSL-AMS 1120-1250 KL1986

AMS-ATL 1650-2020 KL621

 

I would have thought that you should normally have plenty of time to make either onward flight, although if the BSL-AMS flight is late there is clearly a little more risk; a useful test is always to ask what might happen if a flight is 1, 2 or 3 hours late. Depending on where you're actually trying to get to, the risk is one which I would personally be perfectly happy to take. If it all goes wrong on the day, that's just one of those things that happens in travel, and the airline is still legally responsible for getting me to my destination.

 

The other thing that would factor into my thinking (as a practical stranger to the Air France/Delta/KLM/SkyTeam airlines) is that the AMS-DTW flight is on an A330 in a 2-4-2 configuration (assuming you're flying in economy) whereas the AMS-ATL flight is on a B777 in a 3-4-3 configuration. I will personally do quite a lot to avoid the latter configuration.

 

But all of this planning would still be missing a vital ingredient: what the remainder of your travel looks like.

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Hi, I was hoping you could assist me with Amsterdam knowledge if you had a moment. My flight is late November. First Viking River Cruise I did opt for Viking custom Air to have some what of a say in planning my flight however, I’m clueless on picking one from Basel Switzerland. It looks like we must take KLM to Amsterdam and can choose between 2 flights both departing Basel at 11:20 Am One layover is plenty of time that being 4 hours with a KLM plane across the pond to Atlanta, This was a favorable option considering the longer layover it’s the KLM flight I’m unsure of, The second option is KLM at 1120 from Basel to AMS with a 2 1/2 hour layover then a DELTA return to US flight to Detroit. Any advice on choosing a flight to be ticketed out 7 months in advance would surly be much obliged. Any help I can get from seasoned travelers I would be grateful for your advice.

Thank you,

 

As Globaliser mentioned, your final destination is critical. Your profile says Virginia, so if you're anywhere near DC I would recommend just getting over to (such as by train) Zurich and taking the nonstop United straight in to IAD.

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Thank you for hotel suggestions. Booked the Sheraton this morning. Decided we want the easiest stress free experience we can get. Ahhh Chocolate and Gouda were in!! We can now get to the airport and have plenty of time for check in and eating! So relieved not to have to run like crazy.

 

Now will work on flights to AMS from Vienna.

 

So appreciate all the help and suggestions.

 

 

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