Carnival Magic -- CRAPS ??? -- Urgent please !

Has anyone been on Carnival Magic lately ?

I was just told that they no longer have a live craps table ?? Only a craps machine ?

Can anyone confirm this is accurate ? When was the last time you were on Magic ?

If it's true, it's another crappy cutback.

It's been 2 years since my last Magic cruise, but there was a live dice table then.

Has anyone been on Carnival Magic lately ?

I was just told that they no longer have a live craps table ?? Only a craps machine ?

Can anyone confirm this is accurate ? When was the last time you were on Magic ?

Angela, you might want to check out the last couple of Roll Calls for Dream and see if anyone there has posted a recent review. Or ask someone on the next cruise to check for you.

I've heard of automated Roulette machine....but not Craps. I can't see how that could even be automated??

Like this:

Was on it last Summer, had that machine but also had a live table. They really needed two most nights.

I wonder how some of these rumours get started... And for what benefit...

Anyway, just off Magic on Sunday, live craps table there and pretty active. There was also electronic craps but had very little activity, was empty most of the time.

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If it's true, it's another crappy cutback.

You can relax, it's not true.

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Wish I knew how to play that. Maybe I’ll watch some videos on how to play and give it a shot.

Wish I knew how to play that. Maybe I’ll watch some videos on how to play and give it a shot.

The basics are pretty easy. I downloaded an app to fiddle around on before I tried playing it in the casinos. Gave me a chance to learn without the fear of not knowing what I was doing.

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Just got off of the Magic last week and YES there is still a LIVE Craps table as well as the automated.

Wish I knew how to play that.

It's easy. Put a chip on the PASS line (or DO NO PASS if you are anti-social and/or desire the very best odds). That's the only bet you need to know. Lots of other bets out there, but you will have worse odds - sometimes a lot worse.

Shooter rolls the dice until the game is over. You just stand there and watch. You either win double your bet, or you lose it. Once in a while, you can be the shooter. All the shooter does is roll the dice.

That's it!

It's easy. Put a chip on the PASS line (or DO NO PASS if you are anti-social and/or desire the very best odds). That's the only bet you need to know. Lots of other bets out there, but you will have worse odds - sometimes a lot worse.

 

Shooter rolls the dice until the game is over. You just stand there and watch. You either win double your bet, or you lose it. Once in a while, you can be the shooter. All the shooter does is roll the dice.

 

That's it!

Play the pass line, not the don't pass. Yes, it's slightly worse odds, but it's 0.05% worse, which is a NICKEL of every $100 bet. That's not worth the price of alienating the entire table by betting against the shooter ;) No one likes you celebrating your win when everyone else at the table just lost!

"Alienating the whole table" is correct. I love to play but hold my bets when someone comes in and bets that line. Just my way of playing, no judgment.

Thank you for all of the responses. I am so glad the person who told me this was incorrect.

Clearly they don't play craps since they didn't even notice the table was there. But they certainly flat out told me there was a machine only no live table. Whew ! I'm so glad they don't know what they're talking about. :)

Found this thread through the search.

We are looking to book the Magic tomorrow and I am wondering if this is still true. That they do have a live table on the Magic? Also can anyone tell me the MIn?

Thanks

Found this thread through the search.

 

We are looking to book the Magic tomorrow and I am wondering if this is still true. That they do have a live table on the Magic? Also can anyone tell me the MIn?

 

Thanks

If it's the same as the Glory, the minimum is $5 and they only offer 2x odds, which is awful.

We were just on Magic at the end of February and they did have both a live craps table as well as the craps machine with the big dice in the bubble in the middle. It pops up to roll them when you "push the button, come on PUSH the button!!" (wait til you hear it a couple dozen or hundred times, haha). It wasn't a slots style video craps machine, so unless the dice are fixed somehow, it should have the same odds as a live table.

Live Craps was $5 minimum with up to 2x odds allowed. The craps machine was $3 minimum with up to 2x odds allowed. Interestingly, you could draw from your sign & sail to play on the craps machine just like on a slots machine with no 3% fee (they charge 3% on the live table, and all table games, to charge to your cabin/sign & sail at the table).

I am almost positive you earned points from your play on this machine like you earn on slots, as opposed to being rated like table play. If this is true, it would be a good way to get your slot points up on a very favorable odds game. On slots you earn 1 point for every $2.50 thru the machine. I don't remember for sure about the points on this machine though.

Here is what the machine is like ...

http://www.pokeraddict.net/shoot-to-win-video-craps-las-vegas/

https://help.carnival.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3435/~/carnival-players-club%C2%AE

" There is no charge at the slot machines for using your onboard account card to access funds. And there is no charge when using cash. For any charge transactions done at a table game or the Casino Cashier’s Desk, there is a small service fee of 3% each transaction "

I really can't imagine that CAS would "fix" the dice on the machine. With that being said, it might be a fun alternative to use to teach my DH how to play craps. It certainly is more like playing the "real" thing than a video version of it. I might have to try that on the Magic in August.

We were just on Magic at the end of February and they did have both a live craps table as well as the craps machine with the big dice in the bubble in the middle. It pops up to roll them when you "push the button, come on PUSH the button!!" (wait til you hear it a couple dozen or hundred times, haha). It wasn't a slots style video craps machine, so unless the dice are fixed somehow, it should have the same odds as a live table.

 

Live Craps was $5 minimum with up to 2x odds allowed. The craps machine was $3 minimum with up to 2x odds allowed. Interestingly, you could draw from your sign & sail to play on the craps machine just like on a slots machine with no 3% fee (they charge 3% on the live table, and all table games, to charge to your cabin/sign & sail at the table).

 

I am almost positive you earned points from your play on this machine like you earn on slots, as opposed to being rated like table play. If this is true, it would be a good way to get your slot points up on a very favorable odds game. On slots you earn 1 point for every $2.50 thru the machine. I don't remember for sure about the points on this machine though.

 

Here is what the machine is like ...

http://www.pokeraddict.net/shoot-to-win-video-craps-las-vegas/

 

 

https://help.carnival.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3435/~/carnival-players-club%C2%AE

" There is no charge at the slot machines for using your onboard account card to access funds. And there is no charge when using cash. For any charge transactions done at a table game or the Casino Cashier’s Desk, there is a small service fee of 3% each transaction "

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There's a big downside to this game... Look at what the "rake" is on it. You can win almost all the time and walk away with little to show for it due to what the "house" takes. The table game has no such "rake".

 

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I'm not sure where you're seeing the amount that the house takes. I thought the payout would be the same as the table game. I'll have to research it once onboard.

It has been my experience in brick & mortar casinos with this machine, that there is not a rake and the odds are the same as the live table. That’s not to say that they can’t, but they might.

I'm not sure where you're seeing the amount that the house takes. I thought the payout would be the same as the table game. I'll have to research it once onboard.

Poker tables take a rake as well, I think it's 15%, extremely high but Players Club doesn't have any regulations on bets like land based US casinos do.

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It has been my experience in brick & mortar casinos with this machine, that there is not a rake and the odds are the same as the live table. That’s not to say that they can’t, but they might.

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Payout is same, but rake is separate from payout odds. Rake comes out of your bet, not payout. You can see this listed on the machine....

 

Poker tables take a rake as well, I think it's 15%, extremely high but Players Club doesn't have any regulations on bets like land based US casinos do.

 

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So for every $3 bet you automatically lose $.45 before you even play? If so, that would keep me from playing.