Do they let (non-service) dogs onboard?

[wizard-of-roz]

Each one of us has had our own life experiences. We all can appreciate that. So I thought I should warn you that Roz and Brenda cruise/fly and go by train all over the world. You may want to check with her and ask what her plans are and her friends who also have Service Dogs, and also love to cruise and travel a lot.

 

And, there's NOT a cruise ship in the world that will NOT accept a Service Dog. Or, a restaurant [as a matter of fact France allows pet dogs in their fine dining establishments], in the world that will not allow a Service Dog. Some may fuss at first but do "see the light" after they become informed.

 

It will become, thank God, more and more common for Service Dogs to be out in public as places like CCI become more and more successful.

 

If you frequent Las Vegas, be careful, a group of Service Dogs will be there in August and September. Las Vegas hotels, restaurants and casinos are very welcoming of the Service Dog. LIFE IS GOOD!!!!;)

 

Maybe, one day, you'll become more accepting of children and dogs. Allow your heart to open-up, free yourself, it can be so liberating!

 

Thank you, Morey! Without your support none of it would be possible!

[wizard-of-roz]

I agree whole heartedly - Geez Louise, we're not talking attack dogs here - Brenda is a service dog. Labadors are known for their wonderful temperments. I would love to meet Roz and Brenda on any cruise. Just might slip her a treat under the table .;) Just teasing you Roz.

 

And, she'd eat it! Brenda is the first Labrador that I've ever really known. Most of my dogs as a kid were mixed breeds or Boxer's. Labs will inhale anything that resembles food.

I thought the movie "Marley & Me" was a joke, it's so true. Other than the destruction that Marley caused, it's the story of Brenda. She is the most gentle, easy going, fun loving dog I've ever known. And the "soft mouth" thing is also true.....she will take food out of your hand and you'd never know it was a dog who did it.

Hopefully, we'll get to meet onboard a ship one day!

[iancal]

I love dogs and have had several over the years. Having said that I try to avoid hotels where pets are allowed in the rooms and I would not cruise on a ship that allowed pets to accompany passengers. When we had a dog, and we travelled, the dog either stayed with friends or went to the kennel. IMHO, cruise ships are for humans, and with the exception of service animals, not for pets.

[doubletree07]

And, she'd eat it! Brenda is the first Labrador that I've ever really known. Most of my dogs as a kid were mixed breeds or Boxer's. Labs will inhale anything that resembles food.

 

I thought the movie "Marley & Me" was a joke, it's so true. Other than the destruction that Marley caused, it's the story of Brenda. She is the most gentle, easy going, fun loving dog I've ever known. And the "soft mouth" thing is also true.....she will take food out of your hand and you'd never know it was a dog who did it.

 

Hopefully, we'll get to meet onboard a ship one day!

 

Meeting you and Brenda would make for a fantastic cruise! I have been lucky enough to have had 2 granddogs that were Labs. By far the best breed of dog out there. Like you said Roz, fun, easy going and they are wonderful with people, especially children.

[wizard-of-roz]

I love dogs and have had several over the years. Having said that I try to avoid hotels where pets are allowed in the rooms and I would not cruise on a ship that allowed pets to accompany passengers. When we had a dog, and we travelled, the dog either stayed with friends or went to the kennel. IMHO, cruise ships are for humans, and with the exception of service animals, not for pets.

 

I absolutely agree with you.

[jeeper2]

I agree whole heartedly - Geez Louise, we're not talking attack dogs here - Brenda is a service dog. Labadors are known for their wonderful temperments. I would love to meet Roz and Brenda on any cruise. Just might slip her a treat under the table .;) Just teasing you Roz.

 

I, too, would love to meet Roz and Brenda. As a matter of fact, I would love to book a cruise they will be on, just to meet them! We had a service dog on board for our March cruise on the Golden. It warmed my heart whenever I saw him (or her?) with his person. I believe it was their 26th cruise together.

[wizard-of-roz]

I, too, would love to meet Roz and Brenda. As a matter of fact, I would love to book a cruise they will be on, just to meet them! We had a service dog on board for our March cruise on the Golden. It warmed my heart whenever I saw him (or her?) with his person. I believe it was their 26th cruise together.

 

You are so sweet. I know Brenda would love to meet you. She loves people [especially, children.]

Brenda will be onboard the Sapphire Princess on November 27, 2010

and than on the Sapphire, again, on September 24, 2011. We will be booking a "filler" cruise in between them but we just can't make up our minds.

She'll be appearing in Las Vegas at the Wynn Hotel on September 6th through the 12th.

I feel like her booking agent!

Onboard the Golden, last September, we were asked to do a presentation in one of the lounges but Libby Riddles [the Iditerod winner] was coming onboard and she was much more interesting.

Please join us on any of the aformentioned dates. There's nothing like cruising with like minded folks

[notentirelynormal]

I thought of this thread topic today. I'm in the bank and there is a woman there with a goat. Yes, a goat. The goat has a diaper on. I questioned the teller on having a goat in the bank and she told me that the woman said it was a "service" goat. No vest or anything though. Hmmm. We talked about this as she was feeding the goat treats from the cookie tray for the customers. So, can anyone tell me what possibly a goat can do? Oh, the woman owned a petting farm.

[Cruisin' Chick]

Patty, that was very well stated and so welcomed.

 

You just have to spend a day with a Service Dog to truly understand their amazing hearts. Their undying devotion to their handler and to the work that they've been trained to do. Their willingness to do the job without asking for anything in return, except for a pat on the head or an "atta boy!"

 

I'm proud to say that I live with a Service Dog, she gets my undying respect and love on a daily basis.

 

Again, thank you for your kind words.

 

 

I'll have to keep an eye out for the two of you when out and about in the Northridge area and say hi. Unfortunately when we do go on cruises, it would have to be when school is out as we're not going to leave the girl behind (and the milestone is a week from tomorrow, whew, I'll have to change my blog to teenager mom -- even though I stopped blogging as my girl hates my writing about what happens at her school).

 

My hubby had found our lab mix, Michael, abandoned during a rainstorm. He had put up Found Dog signs all over, but didn't get a response. One day, he overheard some men talking at a Home Depot. One asked the other about his dog, and the other guy said, "oh, he ran away, wink wink." Further eavesdropping, and hubby realized they were probably talking about Michael. Poor dog had severe separation anxiety and a deep fear of loud noises, such as thunder and fire crackers, undoubtedly because of what had happened to him. We lost him when he was about 11 due to a tumor, and hubby just didn't want to go through it again with another pet.

 

We avoided feeding him food scraps, but whenever he went to our in-laws, my fil would sneak him food, even though we admonished him on that. When we returned from one cruise and picked him up from there, he was sick as a, well, dog. Ate a bird from the backyard (my fil kept cages in the backyard with bird seed and enjoyed watching the pigeons and others stop by for a meal) who apparently had some sort of disease.

 

So, I'll check under the tables and try not to get too excited if I spot Brenda -- treat her like the professional she is.

[TracieABD]

I thought of this thread topic today. I'm in the bank and there is a woman there with a goat. Yes, a goat. The goat has a diaper on. I questioned the teller on having a goat in the bank and she told me that the woman said it was a "service" goat. No vest or anything though. Hmmm. We talked about this as she was feeding the goat treats from the cookie tray for the customers. So, can anyone tell me what possibly a goat can do? Oh, the woman owned a petting farm.

Service goat... hmmm... that's a new one on me.;)

[wizard-of-roz]

I'll have to keep an eye out for the two of you when out and about in the Northridge area and say hi. Unfortunately when we do go on cruises' date=' it would have to be when school is out as we're not going to leave the girl behind (and the milestone is a week from tomorrow, whew, I'll have to change my blog to teenager mom -- even though I stopped blogging as my girl hates my writing about what happens at her school).

 

My hubby had found our lab mix, Michael, abandoned during a rainstorm. He had put up Found Dog signs all over, but didn't get a response. One day, he overheard some men talking at a Home Depot. One asked the other about his dog, and the other guy said, "oh, he ran away, wink wink." Further eavesdropping, and hubby realized they were probably talking about Michael. Poor dog had severe separation anxiety and a deep fear of loud noises, such as thunder and fire crackers, undoubtedly because of what had happened to him. We lost him when he was about 11 due to a tumor, and hubby just didn't want to go through it again with another pet.

 

We avoided feeding him food scraps, but whenever he went to our in-laws, my fil would sneak him food, even though we admonished him on that. When we returned from one cruise and picked him up from there, he was sick as a, well, dog. Ate a bird from the backyard (my fil kept cages in the backyard with bird seed and enjoyed watching the pigeons and others stop by for a meal) who apparently had some sort of disease.

 

So, I'll check under the tables and try not to get too excited if I spot Brenda -- treat her like the professional she is.[/quote']

 

Great story, Patty. We're in the mall occasionally. And, dine out frequently. Hopefully, we'll run into each other one day. We're easy to spot so just come over and say hi.

 

CCI has opened a "field" office in Westwood, right near my L.A. office. A very lovely donor gave a huge grant to them to open this office for two years. If it goes well, CCI and our dogs will have a big presence in L.A./Beverly Hills/West L.A. and the beach communities. I can't wait to drop in and pick-up Brenda a new vest there, next Friday. It's been a long time coming.....to have CCI right here in L.A.

[wizard-of-roz]

Service goat... hmmm... that's a new one on me.;)

 

I seriously want to know what the Goat does to mitigate a problem for this woman.

 

I am not saying that it's not possible to train any animal to "alert" to a specific problem but goats are notorious for eating everything and anything.....and, are very difficult to control [not the brightest bulbs in the box.] I know a lot about them because my children raised Pygmy goats when we lived in Chatsworth, on a small ranch.

 

They don't just eat the grass, they literally eat the roots of the grass. So, we had to continually change the location of their pens. I had a goat eat the bumper off of my 1977 Corvette Stingray. Really destructive animals.

I wouldn't want to trust them in any environment.

[TracieABD]

I seriously want to know what the Goat does to mitigate a problem for this woman.

 

I am not saying that it's not possible to train any animal to "alert" to a specific problem but goats are notorious for eating everything and anything.....and, are very difficult to control [not the brightest bulbs in the box.] I know a lot about them because my children raised Pygmy goats when we lived in Chatsworth, on a small ranch.

 

They don't just eat the grass, they literally eat the roots of the grass. So, we had to continually change the location of their pens. I had a goat eat the bumper off of my 1977 Corvette Stingray. Really destructive animals.

 

I wouldn't want to trust them in any environment.

This is where the boundries of "service animal" gets pushed too far.

 

And really, your goat ate your car? A Corvette, at that?

 

That would not work for me at all!:) That goat would be looking for a new home!

[notentirelynormal]

To add to that, the cute young woman was in her platform shoes and, well how to phrase this, cute little outfit. There was nothing physically wrong with her that was visual. She was a typical looking cutsie just barely over 18ish (think giggling young woman, which she was doing) as she was doing while feeding her goat from the customer tray. I was tempted to say something directly to her but unless I'm really ticked I'm not as vocal. I did say to the teller in a voice loud enough for her to hear "give me a break, that goat is NOT a service animal". The teller agreed but said there was nothing she could do as she had asked her and that was the response the young woman had given her.

[caribill]

I seriously want to know what the Goat does to mitigate a problem for this woman.

 

 

 

One example of a service goat:

 

One woman shared with us that she trained a goat to help her re-gain her independence – specifically when going on hikes. She has a hearing impairment and trained her goat to alert her to sudden noises, so when she goes on a hike she doesn't have to wear her hearing aids – as she is afraid if she lost one, she wouldn't be able to afford purchasing a replacement. She also trained her goat to provide stability for her to help her up in case she falls.

 

http://blog.seattlepi.com/deltasociety/archives/162275.asp

[TracieABD]

IMO- Best story of the day!

 

I would have paid money to see it!

 

(Now, saying this does not mean that I do not understand the serious ramifications for people who really need the specialized services of a highly trained animal, but still... There is something funny in the chutzpah of the young woman who toted her goat into a bank!)

[wizard-of-roz]

This is where the boundries of "service animal" gets pushed too far.

 

And really, your goat ate your car? A Corvette, at that?

 

That would not work for me at all!:) That goat would be looking for a new home!

 

"Cross my heart", the Corvette is made of fiberglass and the !@** thing ate the fender right off the front of the car. We couldn't believe it and either did the insurance company.

Ask me how much longer the goats were welcome to roam the property.......exactly one minute after I saw what this distructive little monster did! And, after the kids showed the goats at 4H, we sold them.

Animal trainers can do amazing things with animals. I would love to see what this goat can do.

[TracieABD]

Animal trainers can do amazing things with animals. I would love to see what this goat can do.

Well, we know that he can eat cookies from the customer tray...;)

[wizard-of-roz]

One example of a service goat:

 

One woman shared with us that she trained a goat to help her re-gain her independence – specifically when going on hikes. She has a hearing impairment and trained her goat to alert her to sudden noises, so when she goes on a hike she doesn't have to wear her hearing aids – as she is afraid if she lost one, she wouldn't be able to afford purchasing a replacement. She also trained her goat to provide stability for her to help her up in case she falls.

 

http://blog.seattlepi.com/deltasociety/archives/162275.asp

 

If the goat does mitigate a problem; is groomed and acts appropriately in the public environment [does not go to the bathroom; is clean; doesn't smell, etc., etc.] I can see where it would be approved for Public Access.

The woman who used the goat for her hearing deficit, used the goat while she went on hikes, does she use it inside?

And, to train a goat not to make a noise.....seems unatural. Again, I'm always amazed at what animals can do.

[Cruisin' Chick]

Jeeez, a bank allows in a goat, which would be an unusual service animal to say the least, but Roz had problems accessing a restaurant and store with a service dog? Strange world.

 

I hope that girl comes across someone, the next place she takes the goat to, who will challenge her and ask for proof. Maybe knows the right person to contact to get her fine (I would imagine that impersonating someone with a disability should be fine-able...considering that using a handicapped placade illegally can get you into major trouble, you would hope she could get into trouble on this).

[wizard-of-roz]

Well, we know that he can eat cookies from the customer tray...;)

 

Now, that's just WRONG!!!!! In my estimation, that's where she blew it!!! But, that is funny!!!!!

Can you imagine if I had walked in with Brenda and she would have smelled the "livestock"? Brenda is trained and would have looked at me for the "release" command so she could go sniff-out the prey!

What would the goat have done.....would it be under control, would it have bolted into the line of customers, would it have knocked someone down to get out of the way of this big, black, wolf-looking animal?

I think this "perky", "cute little thing" would have had a very scared, angry goat on her hands and so would the bank!

[wizard-of-roz]

Jeeez' date=' a bank allows in a goat, which would be an unusual service animal to say the least, but Roz had problems accessing a restaurant and store with a service dog? Strange world.

 

I hope that girl comes across someone, the next place she takes the goat to, who will challenge her and ask for proof. Maybe knows the right person to contact to get her fine (I would imagine that impersonating someone with a disability should be fine-able...considering that using a handicapped placade illegally can get you into major trouble, you would hope she could get into trouble on this).[/quote']

 

I can promise you, if I meet the goat & Miss "Perky", I will be questioning her [in a kind way] and, if I see her feeding the goat off of the "people platter", I will remind her that that behavior is totally inappropriate for a "Service Animal" and to please feed her goat outside [she may get lucky and find a Corvette!]

[notentirelynormal]

You guys are too funny. Well, she was not wearing mountain climbing clothes. She sure didn't need a hearing aid. I will say, the goat was perfectly quiet and just stood there. Seeing a goat wearing a diaper was weird. I gave her the benefit of the doubt because of the diaper and its neat appearance, but when she took it over to the food tray, that's when my serious doubts popped up. It was in the US Bank across from the Topanga Mall.

[Sherri1]

Roz,

I was thinking the same thing about attire for Brenda. We all take some

of those clothes , just the ones we take on cruises , 'island clothes'. Extra colorful, fun, vibrant things we think we should be wearing while in the Caribbean. Brenda needs to have vacation clothes too. Perhaps somebody you know that sews could make some travel clothes/vest for her that would be lighter weight and island attire ??

I would love to meet both of you on a cruise one day... I'm afraid I would be one of those people sneaking her an extra biscuit too !!

 

Sherri

[wizard-of-roz]

You guys are too funny. Well, she was not wearing mountain climbing clothes. She sure didn't need a hearing aid. I will say, the goat was perfectly quiet and just stood there. Seeing a goat wearing a diaper was weird. I gave her the benefit of the doubt because of the diaper and its neat appearance, but when she took it over to the food tray, that's when my serious doubts popped up. It was in the US Bank across from the Topanga Mall.

 

Hey! I go to U.S. Bank and I've never been offered a tray of cookies. They were giving away these funny little frisbee's for dogs, nary a cookie in sight, the goat probably ate them all!