kathyemma Posted October 26, 2010 #1 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Just posted by Sunny Liston "What is going on on St.Thomas today? It seems that the pilots for the cruise ships are on strike here on St.Thomas. All 5 ship are out in the harbour cannot get in port. It is really sad, because I had so many people schedule for my tour today. That is a big lost. Hope they get out soon and bring in the ships. Ships that are schedule today are the Emerald Princess, Carnival Liberty, Carnival Dream, Oasis of the Seas,and the Norwegian Sun. Over 20.000 people are held up in the harbour." Has anyone heard anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Flying Pirate Posted October 26, 2010 #2 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Wow that is a lot of people to leave hanging. I have always thought that Harbor Pilot thing was a big racket. The Captains are in and out of those harbors every week you would think they could bring the ships in blindfolded. An airplane pilot makes approaches to new airports all the time with out difficulty. But it is the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathyemma Posted October 26, 2010 Author #3 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I don't know who would be more upset, the passengers or the vendors. Guess the vendors - they have had a hard few months with the weather. Haven't heard any updates from Sunny. Hopefully they are all off the ships by now. Kathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribbeanboy Posted October 26, 2010 #4 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Ships involved are Oasis, Emerald Princess, Carnival Dream & Liberty and the Norwegian Sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare shipshape sam Posted October 26, 2010 #5 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Just posted by Sunny Liston "What is going on on St.Thomas today? It seems that the pilots for the cruise ships are on strike here on St.Thomas. All 5 ship are out in the harbour cannot get in port. It is really sad, because I had so many people schedule for my tour today. That is a big lost. Hope they get out soon and bring in the ships. Ships that are schedule today are the Emerald Princess, Carnival Liberty, Carnival Dream, Oasis of the Seas,and the Norwegian Sun. Over 20.000 people are held up in the harbour." Has anyone heard anything? Is today the first day they are striking to your knowledge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redcupr Posted October 26, 2010 #6 Share Posted October 26, 2010 The bridge cam on the Emerald Princess is showing they made it to the pier, looks like Carnival Dream is behind them, and Liberty is in front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjcruiser Posted October 26, 2010 #7 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Looks like one ship (EP) is at the pier already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathyemma Posted October 26, 2010 Author #8 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Is today the first day they are striking to your knowledge? This is the first comment Sunny Liston has made about it. He is one of the tour operators in St Thomas. Pretty sure if is was going on earlier he would have said something. Kathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsFixitCT Posted October 26, 2010 #9 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Been following this via a friend's Facebook page..(they live there and own a dive shop). The pilot boat pilots are on strike because they haven't received paychecks for a while. The government is claiming they don't have the $$. There are a total of about 5 pilots. And today is one of the "high traffic" days with 5 ships scheduled in. Very dangerous situation, because the Islands have been getting hit with a string of bad weather...if the ships can't get in, it's that much less income the local businesses will see. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njoyndride Posted October 26, 2010 #10 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Carnival Dream's webcam is showing they are docked. When I checked all the webcams, which I do every morning :rolleyes:, I noticed it was a ways out @10:30 EST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribbeanboy Posted October 26, 2010 #11 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Carnival Dream's webcam is showing they are docked. When I checked all the webcams, which I do every morning :rolleyes:, I noticed it was a ways out @10:30 EST. Yes and Emerald is also showing as docked with C.Liberty in the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fury1995 Posted October 26, 2010 #12 Share Posted October 26, 2010 And the Dream is showing the Emerald in front of her as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmy Posted October 26, 2010 #13 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Have friends on Oasis and they dock at Crown Bay... a couple weeks ago we were the only ship there. No news from them about missing port so far anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enyliram Posted October 26, 2010 #14 Share Posted October 26, 2010 i see that the ships have docked. next question is, will there be a problem with the pilots at departure time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribbeanboy Posted October 26, 2010 #15 Share Posted October 26, 2010 i see that the ships have docked. next question is, will there be a problem with the pilots at departure time? Most probably they will do the same thing as this morning, sending one of their tenders to take the pilot back to land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathyemma Posted October 26, 2010 Author #16 Share Posted October 26, 2010 CC now has an article on it. Kathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucknmarilyn Posted October 26, 2010 #17 Share Posted October 26, 2010 According to Papa Bear from Air Force One Tours, they have had volunteer pilots help dock the ships one at a time. He said there was no advance warning to the tour operators. They've had a rough season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare TPKeller Posted October 26, 2010 #18 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I read the CC article... as one poster here already noted, it's the crew of the pilot boats who are on strike, not the pilots themselves. Rather amusing if you ask me... cruise ships have their own tenders or at least lifeboats... not that this would be a long-term solution, but especially now that they know about it, it's not going to be a big impact. All these striking crews are doing is making everybody mad. Not exactly a good bargaining tactic. Theron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musiccity2008 Posted October 26, 2010 #19 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I'm not a union person and I don't usually support strikes. And I admit we may not have all the facts yet. But, if it's true that these guys have been working and haven't received their paychecks that just isn't right. The money is coming in--those cruise lines pay sizable fees to use the facilities at the docks. Pay them what they are owed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady_cruiser Posted October 26, 2010 #20 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I have to agree with the above poster. If I didn't get paid for several months I wouldn't be working either. I'll be looking for another job that would help me put food on my families table and clothes on my childrens' backs. Even if that job was sweeping out stalls in the Straw Markets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted October 26, 2010 #21 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I'm not a union person and I don't usually support strikes. And I admit we may not have all the facts yet. But, if it's true that these guys have been working and haven't received their paychecks that just isn't right. The money is coming in--those cruise lines pay sizable fees to use the facilities at the docks. Pay them what they are owed! I have to agree with the above poster. If I didn't get paid for several months I wouldn't be working either. I'll be looking for another job that would help me put food on my families table and clothes on my childrens' backs. Even if that job was sweeping out stalls in the Straw Markets. I guess that when it takes insurance comanies several months to pay me what I am owed it gives me a different perspective on things.:rolleyes: You mean to say that some people actually get paid in a reasonable amount of time after completing their work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yes We Can Posted October 26, 2010 #22 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Here is an update http://stthomassource.com/content/news/local-news/2010/10/26/five-cruise-ship-day-jeopardized-vipa-employee-no-shows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musiccity2008 Posted October 27, 2010 #23 Share Posted October 27, 2010 I guess that when it takes insurance comanies several months to pay me what I am owed it gives me a different perspective on things.:rolleyes: You mean to say that some people actually get paid in a reasonable amount of time after completing their work? I sympathize with you. I have clients that often take advantage of delaying payment for 60, 90, even 120 days or more when the terms are due within 15 days of invoice. Bottom line, if you do the work as agreed, you should be paid--as agreed. I'm not sure we have all the facts, but if the USVI local gov't isn't paying the people who work at the port as normal, then they're just being short sighted. The income generated by the ports--both cruise line and freight--has to be a significant part of the island's GDP. Again, if it's true that they're simply not paying the crews the salary they're owed, then they're just plain stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancher Dave Posted October 27, 2010 #24 Share Posted October 27, 2010 I guess that when it takes insurance comanies several months to pay me what I am owed it gives me a different perspective on things.:rolleyes: You mean to say that some people actually get paid in a reasonable amount of time after completing their work? In Texas laws were put in place to stop that poop. Those groups who bill and get paid electronically sometimes are paid in 5 days... on the flip side UHC just paid the claim for DD and me when we saw a PCP group in AK while there for Christmas and NYE last year. It took my appeal directly to the CEO to get it paid as well. (OB you can join the TX RI exchange program my parents are in...:D split your time between the two places.) Many patients would cringe if they knew how their providers have to at times fight to be paid...at times even over simple small amounts. I sure hope the StT folks get paid...only fair to be paid when you work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted October 27, 2010 #25 Share Posted October 27, 2010 In Texas laws were put in place to stop that poop. Those groups who bill and get paid electronically sometimes are paid in 5 days... on the flip side UHC just paid the claim for DD and me when we saw a PCP group in AK while there for Christmas and NYE last year. It took my appeal directly to the CEO to get it paid as well. (OB you can join the TX RI exchange program my parents are in...:D split your time between the two places.) Many patients would cringe if they knew how their providers have to at times fight to be paid...at times even over simple small amounts. I sure hope the StT folks get paid...only fair to be paid when you work. It seems like everything is bigger and better in Texas. Rhode Island is a whole other issue in itself.:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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