Norfolk Brit Posted June 30, 2011 #176 Share Posted June 30, 2011 took a long time for executions in the US to be done by lethal injection was that by US regulations, the FDA had to approve it as "safe and effective" :rolleyes: Similar thing here, but with vets (we don't execute people any more...) - I've had two experiences of them disinfecting the needle site prior to administrating the lethal dose. Mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted June 30, 2011 #177 Share Posted June 30, 2011 I have also been wondering if there are inspections carried out by health authorities in other countries when the ship docks, or is this just a US issue? Does anyone know? If it is just a US issue then there is a worrying spectre of standards being allowed to slip when the ship is away from US ports for any length of time (eg on the World Cruise). I have been thinking very carefully about my past World Cruises to see if I can remember health authorities on board in various ports, but I cannot remember any mention of them. I recall sniffer dogs running along passenger corridors on QE2 but I think they were probably customs dogs sniffing for drugs. I know that there are inspections in Canada. When we were in Halifax on QE2, health inspectors were on the ship. I think that most countries have some sort of inspection. I have heard crew members say that nobody's inspections are as tough as the US inspections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlueRiband Posted June 30, 2011 #178 Share Posted June 30, 2011 She docks in New York on Friday morning. Cunard probably wants a re-inspection so that the whole embarassing slipup can be put in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vjmatty Posted June 30, 2011 #179 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Similar thing here, but with vets (we don't execute people any more...) - I've had two experiences of them disinfecting the needle site prior to administrating the lethal dose. Mary I believe here they do the disinfection for executions on humans as well :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurell Posted June 30, 2011 #180 Share Posted June 30, 2011 I sure hope there are health inspectors again before QM2 sails July 1. I was on the July 4th cruise in 2009 and there were hand sanitizer stations at the beginning of every buffet line and staff "enforcers" standing next to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real PM Posted June 30, 2011 #181 Share Posted June 30, 2011 I sure hope there are health inspectors again before QM2 sails July 1. I was on the July 4th cruise in 2009 and there were hand sanitizer stations at the beginning of every buffet line and staff "enforcers" standing next to them. I wonder if anyone realizes how long the hand sanitizer is effective? I just read that hand sanitizers last for two minutes and is most effective used after one comes in contact with someone who has been sneezing or coughing. So I am wondering just what the purpose is for the hand sanitizer that is available and enforced in some cases as passengers enter a dining room or buffet? I guess it would be great if we all wolfed down our food in two minutes flat. "According to a recent survey, half of all Americans think the antibacterial gels last longer than they do -- which is two minutes, according to germ experts." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolk Brit Posted June 30, 2011 #182 Share Posted June 30, 2011 So I am wondering just what the purpose is for the hand sanitizer that is available and enforced in some cases as passengers enter a dining room or buffet? They are there to make everyone think they are doing something constructive - they are anti-bacterial, not anti-viral and norovirus is, unsurprisingly, a virus... Mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnhmrk Posted June 30, 2011 #183 Share Posted June 30, 2011 I just read that hand sanitizers last for two minutes and is most effective used after one comes in contact with someone who has been sneezing or coughing. And what about when the steward giving out the hand sanitizer has a cold and is sneezing and coughing everywhere - everywhere that is other than in his handkerchief :eek: (Yes, I have seen that on a Cunard ship) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real PM Posted June 30, 2011 #184 Share Posted June 30, 2011 And what about when the steward giving out the hand sanitizer has a cold and is sneezing and coughing everywhere - everywhere that is other than in his handkerchief :eek: (Yes, I have seen that on a Cunard ship) They use the inside of the elbow now.:) I guess you could refuse it or could you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnhmrk Posted June 30, 2011 #185 Share Posted June 30, 2011 They use the inside of the elbow now.:) I suppose it makes a change from their sleeve :D I guess you could refuse it or could you? My father doesn't believe in hand sanitizer and just ignores them. They've never stopped him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruachan Posted June 30, 2011 #186 Share Posted June 30, 2011 My father doesn't believe in hand sanitizer and just ignores them. They've never stopped him! A hand sanitizer on Queen Elizabeth. Does the knitted dress promote hygiene? Discuss. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real PM Posted June 30, 2011 #187 Share Posted June 30, 2011 A hand sanitizer on Queen Elizabeth. Does the knitted dress promote hygiene? Discuss. J Is that in the men's room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted June 30, 2011 #188 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Is that in the men's room? Good question. The bottle is wearing a dress, but it's also wearing a black tie. Very confusing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILUVMTL Posted June 30, 2011 #189 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Maybe Cunard is suggesting a cross-dressing Formal Evening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Colin_Cameron Posted June 30, 2011 #190 Share Posted June 30, 2011 They are there to make everyone think they are doing something constructive - they are anti-bacterial, not anti-viral and norovirus is, unsurprisingly, a virus... Mary I once had this same discussion with one ship's doctor. I questioned the efficacy of the antibacterial gel/spray/whatever against a virus. He said the only benefit was that people got so fed-up of having sticky hands that they went and washed them! I've yet to get a better explanation. Regards, Colin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruachan Posted July 1, 2011 #191 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Is that in the men's room? No - that was in the Britannia Dining Room. :eek: J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruachan Posted July 1, 2011 #192 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Good question. The bottle is wearing a dress, but it's also wearing a black tie. Very confusing! Just covering all the options I guess. You can never be too careful where the dress code's concerned :D J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruachan Posted July 1, 2011 #193 Share Posted July 1, 2011 I once had this same discussion with one ship's doctor. I questioned the efficacy of the antibacterial gel/spray/whatever against a virus. He said the only benefit was that people got so fed-up of having sticky hands that they went and washed them! I've yet to get a better explanation. Regards, Colin. I'm addicted to the fumes - the stuff beats the heck out of glue sniffing :cool: J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasnonnie Posted July 1, 2011 #194 Share Posted July 1, 2011 My husband and I are on the July 20 westbound crossing and I figure that with all the attention the CDC report got, everything on the QM2 will be immaculate for the rest of the summer, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real PM Posted July 1, 2011 #195 Share Posted July 1, 2011 My husband and I are on the July 20 westbound crossing and I figure that with all the attention the CDC report got, everything on the QM2 will be immaculate for the rest of the summer, at least. I have never seen it anything else but immaculate. I can't even imagine how it ever got a score like that--or maybe I can! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brigittetom Posted July 2, 2011 #196 Share Posted July 2, 2011 That would not surprise me..... you would not believe how long it takes medication to be approved by the Food and Drug Administration. Funny story, it is my understanding that one reason it took a long time for executions in the US to be done by lethal injection was that by US regulations, the FDA had to approve it as "safe and effective" :rolleyes: That also included "non habit forming". True Regarding an earlier post....you will notice that the staff never ever touch handrails. Not because the staff doesn't clean properly...simply because passengers have bad habits and they don't touch where passengers touch when it can be avoided. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Dean Posted July 2, 2011 #197 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Regarding an earlier post....you will notice that the staff never ever touch handrails. Not because the staff doesn't clean properly...simply because passengers have bad habits and they don't touch where passengers touch when it can be avoided. :) So why did Ian McNaught say, every time there was bad weather, "one hand for the ship" and encourage use of the handrails? There comes a point where the handrails are necessary. Otherwise the hospital will be full of broken bones. WD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brigittetom Posted July 2, 2011 #198 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Passengers use handrails...as they should. Staff navigates better than the rest of us. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underwatr Posted July 2, 2011 #199 Share Posted July 2, 2011 On our QV cruise the first indication that the ship had gone Code Red was when I noticed all of the handrails were wet (with disinfectant). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacia Posted July 3, 2011 #200 Share Posted July 3, 2011 On our QV cruise the first indication that the ship had gone Code Red was when I noticed all of the handrails were wet (with disinfectant). Oh dear. The handrails were wet this afternoon (Saturday) on QM2. I'm hoping it was the humidity?:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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