che5904 Posted December 28, 2011 #151 Share Posted December 28, 2011 not sure what cruise line you were on, but with NCL there is no wrong side Norwegian Cruise Line Where You Can Smoke: Smoking is permitted in designated ares on open decks, in casinos and in cigar bars. Norwegian Epic, Norwegian Gem, Norwegian Pearl, Norwegian Dawn and Norwegian Spirit have cigar bars. Until January 1, 2012, smoking is allowed in cabins and on balconies. Where You Can't: All indoor public areas except casinos and cigar bars are non-smoking. Effective January 1, 2012, smoking will be prohibited in cabins. Cigarette smoking will still be allowed on balconies; however, cigar and pipe smoking on balconies will be prohibited ;) I think starfish was speaking about open decks. On the Dawn and Star the port side of the pool deck is smoking, the starboard side non-smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rounder Posted December 28, 2011 #152 Share Posted December 28, 2011 posted by che5904 Blue Ribbon Cruiser (There is also a video done by a newscaster here (I believe it's CBC Canada) about a year after they hit the market here in Canada. He took them to a large city to a few bars and coffee shops to get the reaction of others. Non-smokers were outraged even when told about them, just because they looked like a cigarette. ) Well put ! It really does not surprise me at all. Some people get a major case of tunnel vision, others have it so bad they can see thru a keyhole with both eyes. In the past i had always tried to show some consideration for others, but after reading some of the narrow minded coments, i wonder, why ?? :confused: I understand some of the objection,s due to allergies, not liking the smell . Am i the only one hear stuck on stupid :confused: I have to ask why are you people that have such a dislike, sailing with NCL :confused: , when NCL states it is okay ? To me that is the same as people coming on NCL, then complaing, there are people wearing blue jeans? We went with NCL, they allow smoking on the balconies. This issue will not be resolved here ! If you want me to respect you, you have to remember, that is a two-way street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rounder Posted December 28, 2011 #153 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I think starfish was speaking about open decks. On the Dawn and Star the port side of the pool deck is smoking, the starboard side non-smoking. oops, silly me . thank's, that makes much more sense ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susan33 Posted December 28, 2011 #154 Share Posted December 28, 2011 We just finished B2B cruises. First week was wonderful as there wasn't any smoke detected on the balcony. The second week was awful. The cabin next to us had 5 people. The 4 adults were chain smokers. They seemed to smoke 24-hours a day. The smoke was heavy all day and at night they were out on the balcony smoking, moving the chairs, and slamming the door. Our door to the balcony needed new weather stripping to keep out the smoke. The stripping was replaced which cut down on the smoke coming into our room. We were not able to use our balcony the second week, and no the wind did not dilute the smoke. We know they had the right to use their balcony for smoking but it seems we should have been able to use our balcony now and then. Maybe instead of having smoking allowed on port or starboard. How about smoking allowed every other hour on the balcony. Just joking.:) Today, we booked a balcony on NCL for next year. We are going to try again to have a balcony and if that doesn't work will be looking into other cruise lines. This is really a touchy situation for every one and there is really no good answer for every one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modfanmike Posted December 28, 2011 #155 Share Posted December 28, 2011 On a recent Star cruise I was bothered by smoke from the balcony next door. It was my friend who was smoking. As long as I wasn't past the railing the smoke would dissipate in the wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rounder Posted December 29, 2011 #156 Share Posted December 29, 2011 We just finished B2B cruises. First week was wonderful as there wasn't any smoke detected on the balcony. The second week was awful. The cabin next to us had 5 people. The 4 adults were chain smokers. They seemed to smoke 24-hours a day. The smoke was heavy all day and at night they were out on the balcony smoking, moving the chairs, and slamming the door. Our door to the balcony needed new weather stripping to keep out the smoke. The stripping was replaced which cut down on the smoke coming into our room. We were not able to use our balcony the second week, and no the wind did not dilute the smoke. We know they had the right to use their balcony for smoking but it seems we should have been able to use our balcony now and then. Maybe instead of having smoking allowed on port or starboard. How about smoking allowed every other hour on the balcony. Just joking.:) Today, we booked a balcony on NCL for next year. We are going to try again to have a balcony and if that doesn't work will be looking into other cruise lines. This is really a touchy situation for every one and there is really no good answer for every one. Sorry this had to happen to you guy's. Like i said in an earlier post, some people have tunnel vision ! The fact about all the noise all day and night is just downright rude ! These type of people, be they smokers, or not, can see thru a keyhole with both eyes. All they care about is themselves Sadly. :mad: They should have realized you have the right to use your balcony also. This is where people fall down badly. There was no reason they couln't have clued in, you folk's might want to use your balcony. They should have spoke with you, or left for a while. Hopefully your next cruise goes better. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wecruise8 Posted January 24, 2012 #157 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Well thats would be totally up to you. Personally as long as NCL has smoking on their balconies they have my business. I refuse to get up, get dressed and head up 2 flights of stairs or down 3 each time I want a cigarette. If they've stopped it in the cabins I really don't care as long as I can go as far as the balcony. Amen. Other than the casino and once on the deck in a smoking area I've never smelled smoke. On the other hand, the perfume in the restaurants and other indoor venues has often caused me to leave (land and sea vacations) to keep from having a debilitating migraine and thus ruining my cruise/vacation. I've missed events that I was looking forward to and would have enjoyed. I wouldn't think of making a comment about how someone smells. I'd find something else to do. Why must people complain so much?:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 HappyCruiser Posted January 24, 2012 #158 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Amen. Other than the casino and once on the deck in a smoking area I've never smelled smoke. On the other hand, the perfume in the restaurants and other indoor venues has often caused me to leave (land and sea vacations) to keep from having a debilitating migraine and thus ruining my cruise/vacation. I've missed events that I was looking forward to and would have enjoyed. I wouldn't think of making a comment about how someone smells. I'd find something else to do. Why must people complain so much?:mad: It's because you are a smoker that you can't notice how other people reek of the nicotine smell. Give it up for a year & you'll begin to notice the same odors that you've missed out on for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
che5904 Posted January 24, 2012 #159 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Amen. Other than the casino and once on the deck in a smoking area I've never smelled smoke. On the other hand, the perfume in the restaurants and other indoor venues has often caused me to leave (land and sea vacations) to keep from having a debilitating migraine and thus ruining my cruise/vacation. I've missed events that I was looking forward to and would have enjoyed. I wouldn't think of making a comment about how someone smells. I'd find something else to do. Why must people complain so much?:mad: I have quite the intolerance to strong perfumed soaps, cologne, perfume or whatever some seem to bath in as well. I just quietly remove myself from the area they choose to be in. I figure if I'm the one that has the issue with it, then it is not my place to be keeper of other people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
che5904 Posted January 24, 2012 #160 Share Posted January 24, 2012 It's because you are a smoker that you can't notice how other people reek of the nicotine smell. Give it up for a year & you'll begin to notice the same odors that you've missed out on for years. Thanks for the advice, but I understand my sense of smell would get stronger. And if I have intolerances to so many perfumed smells now, I'd have more of an issue then. hmmmm I think I'll stick with my dulled senses ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmyrafan Posted January 24, 2012 #161 Share Posted January 24, 2012 My husband and I non-smokers. Can't stand the smell and it can cause me to have coughing fits. What we do is this. We designate one or two sets of clothing for the times we know we will be around smokers. We also then designate 1 drawer for those clothes so they don't smell up the rest of our belongings. For the trip home, the smoke fumed clothes are designated to the outside pocket of our luggage, again, so they don't contaminate the clothes. As for areas of the ship? We just avoid the most smoke filled areas or walk quickly through them to limit the smell. Overall, we realize that people are on vacation and just want to relax and have a good time. Since we primarily stick to 1 or 2 NCL ships, we have figured out where the smoking and non-smoking areas tend to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleet Posted January 25, 2012 #162 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Thanks for the advice, but I understand my sense of smell would get stronger. And if I have intolerances to so many perfumed smells now, I'd have more of an issue then. hmmmm I think I'll stick with my dulled senses ;) I have to say that I quite agree. Certain very expensive perfumes absolutely smell like bug spray to me and even sting my nose. My daughter says my brand of perfume smells bad to her but complete strangers will tell me how good it smells. Just wondering if some pro no smokers just have a heightened sense of smell? I like that pronosmokers word! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KansasCityGuys Posted January 25, 2012 #163 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Princess does have a new smoking policy going into effect in January 2012. Smoking on balconies/in cabins will no longer be allowed. For this reason we are moving to NCL. I don't smoke but my partner does. We have cruised both Princess and NCL and just like you we have booked our next cruise on NCL for the same reason's you stated. Sent from my MB200 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzmered Posted January 25, 2012 #164 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I don't smoke but my partner does. We have cruised both Princess and NCL and just like you we have booked our next cruise on NCL for the same reason's you stated. Sent from my MB200 using Tapatalk Same here, we have one booked on NCL and one on HAL that both allow smoking on balconies still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzmered Posted January 25, 2012 #165 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Thanks for the detailed answer. I can't really dispute anything that you've said but I still think the more powerful and more influential lobbying group is the cigarette manufacturing bloc. I believe their influence on government far surpasses what the general public feels about the e-cigs. Just a supposition on my part. I have no facts to back it up other than the history of how government works. It's the old "follow the money" line of thought. If that were true about the Cigarette manufactures having more clout then there wouldn't be so many bans on smoking in restaurants, bars, hotels etc.. Don't down play the power of the anti smoking groups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wecruise8 Posted January 25, 2012 #166 Share Posted January 25, 2012 It's because you are a smoker that you can't notice how other people reek of the nicotine smell. Give it up for a year & you'll begin to notice the same odors that you've missed out on for years. It certainly hasn't dulled my sense of smell where strong perfumes, etc., are concerned. I still smell those very well and get horrible migraines from them. I also have a problem in a very smokey enclosed space. I do smell the nicotine and smoke. Maybe I just have a special nose to be able to smell these things after so many years of smoking! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenagurl Posted January 25, 2012 #167 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I can only hope I'm sandwiched between some non-smokers. I used to think that if we book forward cabins...hoping the smokers have mid-ship or aft...we wont smell it while the ship is moving. hahaha! now if only I could get that down to a real science! I thought that would work...:confused: I guess I'll stick to ocean views, because smoke is one of the main reasons why I don't book balconies. A few smoke free cruises would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wecruise8 Posted January 25, 2012 #168 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I have quite the intolerance to strong perfumed soaps, cologne, perfume or whatever some seem to bath in as well. I just quietly remove myself from the area they choose to be in. I figure if I'm the one that has the issue with it, then it is not my place to be keeper of other people. I agree but you said it better. I simply don't understand people who think that they live at Burger King and can have it all their way. This is the real world and as long as one is responsible, respectful, considerate of others, and follows the laws they should be allowed to live without being hounded, nagged, put down, treated like lesser beings, etc. If your perfume (or whatever) bothers/effects me I'll take a hike, if my smoke bothers you, well the choice is yours. Just be nice please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemsm Posted January 25, 2012 #169 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I thought that would work...:confused: I guess I'll stick to ocean views, because smoke is one of the main reasons why I don't book balconies. A few smoke free cruises would be nice. Just curious...Does the smoke on deck from the ships smokestacks bother you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 HappyCruiser Posted January 25, 2012 #170 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Just curious...Does the smoke on deck from the ships smokestacks bother you? The smoke emitted from the stacks is at least 75 feet off the highest desk. Maybe if they put the smokers up there they wouldn't be any problem. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispb Posted January 25, 2012 #171 Share Posted January 25, 2012 The smoke emitted from the stacks is at least 75 feet off the highest desk. Maybe if they put the smokers up there they wouldn't be any problem. :p Soooo, the smoke from the stacks doesn't blow up, down, sideways, around corners, into rooms??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 HappyCruiser Posted January 25, 2012 #172 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Soooo, the smoke from the stacks doesn't blow up, down, sideways, around corners, into rooms??? Oh it might under the right conditions and normally it's not a concern but having a smoker close by your balcony will surely be noticeable all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
che5904 Posted January 25, 2012 #173 Share Posted January 25, 2012 The smoke emitted from the stacks is at least 75 feet off the highest desk. Maybe if they put the smokers up there they wouldn't be any problem. :p Well after much consideration of this post. I was thinking a few loungers up that far, gee what a good idea, no chair hogs, not overly crowded, great view ;) Then I got thinking more and I'm afraid of heights, so not such a good idea :( Sorry I'm not for moving the naughty spot there :D :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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