alexin Posted January 14, 2012 #351 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I was on Costa Concordia last November.... shocking news. This is a circle itinerary and new passengers are boarding in each port. That is why the emergency drill was not held before the departure from Chivitaveccia. They are doing it next day in Savona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookish Angel Posted January 14, 2012 #352 Share Posted January 14, 2012 http://www.npr.org/2012/01/13/145204913/cruise-ship-aground-off-italy-deaths-reported Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItalianGuest Posted January 14, 2012 Author #353 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Unfortunately, the event is having an increasingly negative evolution... my thoughts and prayers to all involved. I can confirm the emergency number provided by Costa: 848 50 50 50 Here some others number... hope It helps! Civil protection departement: 800 840 840 http://www.protezionecivile.gov.it/jcms/en/homepage.wp;jsessionid=82718F23A55BD1AB7964DB6C07E0E5A4 Grosseto prefecture: +39 0564433111 http://www.prefettura.it/grosseto/contenuti/4864.htm ItalianGuest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f1mauro Posted January 14, 2012 #354 Share Posted January 14, 2012 The bottle didn't break when the ship was christened. Was this a bad omen?:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvcruising2 Posted January 14, 2012 #355 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Its hard to believe that I can go buy a 20 dollar fish finder that tells me the depth of the water around me when I go fishing, yet we have a modern cruise ship hitting a rock and almost completely sinking. Surely this ship has some sort of sonar to indicate water depth. Maybe electrical problems knocked out the navagation tools on the ship and she was unaware of the rock. If so, a complete redesign should be done on all ships to ensure the navagation system is always working. Good point. And the ship was sailing pretty much in home waters. They must have done this route thousands (or tens of thousands) of times by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvcruising2 Posted January 14, 2012 #356 Share Posted January 14, 2012 The bottle didn't break when the ship was christened. Was this a bad omen?:eek: Chilling! What are the chances of the bottle not breaking? Was it a steel bottle or what! :confused::confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
degarr Posted January 14, 2012 #357 Share Posted January 14, 2012 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2086527/Costa-Concordia-accident-Pictures-cruise-ship-sinking-coast-Italy-Titanic-like-scene.html Look at pictures 2 and 4, in picture 4 look at 3rd and 4th rope hanging down the side of the ship, the rock is there rgds Thankyou D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlesteelo Posted January 14, 2012 #358 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Also dont forget the Princess listing accident as well. These things are top heavy.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_Princess_(ship)#Listing_incident The ship IMO is a write off. Salt water damage will ensure that. They aren't top heavy. Yes, they are high above the water, but all the machinery is down low or underneath the water, which gives them the low center of gravity. The higher decks are made of aluminium too, which decreases the weight at the top of the ship. Also, the Crown Princess incident was due to human error, not ship design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbxtech Posted January 14, 2012 #359 Share Posted January 14, 2012 How sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guernseyguy Posted January 14, 2012 #360 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Republica have the Marine Traffic track for Costa Concordia - looks like she was heading straight for Giglio at 15 knots.....either on the wrong heading, failed to make a turn, or turned too late.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted January 14, 2012 #361 Share Posted January 14, 2012 As my husband and I have been on over 23 cruises, we cannot help but personally feel the sheer terror that these poor people must have gone through . . . and still are. We have always found cruises to be a very safe mode of travel, but, despite all the technological advancements, I guess anything can happen. God Bless the passengers and crew that made it out and our prayers remain for the dead and injured. It's just so unbelieveable. Our next cruise is in July. This makes us think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heni1805 Posted January 14, 2012 #362 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Really, really shocking news. Young clients of our small cruise agency just have been on the Concordia in the end of December and called me this morning. Everybody is shocked, they already booked a new tour with the ship, because they loved it so much. So we will see how this process will work out. It's also the headline news on german tv. They are talking to saved passengers and they are criticizing massively the whole management of the rescue process. They say, there were no instructions at all and crew members jumping into the life boats before the passengers. I just hope that really everybody is off the ship and not still stuck in one of the lower decks. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karieem Posted January 14, 2012 #363 Share Posted January 14, 2012 A lot of speculation still. Hope all remaining passengers and crew are found safe and well. Lovely memories of Concordia now tinged with intense sadness. I hope the frequent moaning about the multi-lingual lifeboat drills will now cease. We will all listen with total attention in future!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying is for Planes Posted January 14, 2012 #364 Share Posted January 14, 2012 What do you make of the last track? Pretty obvious way off course? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmwnc1959 Posted January 14, 2012 #365 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Aerial footage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyDenise Posted January 14, 2012 #366 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Several passengers said crew members for a good 45 minutes told passengers there was a simple "technical problem" that had caused the lights to go off. Seasoned cruisers, however, knew better and went to get their life jackets in their rooms and report to their "muster stations," the emergency stations each passenger is assigned to, they said. Once there, though, crew members delayed lowering the lifeboats even thought the ship was listing badly, they said. "We had to scream at the controllers to release the boats from the side," said Mike van Dijk, a 54-year-old from Pretoria, South Africa. "We were standing in the corridors and they weren't allowing us to get onto the boats. It was a scramble, an absolute scramble." ---------------------------------------------- What a terrifying ordeal ...thoughts and prayers to the crew, passengers, and families involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hightownCO Posted January 14, 2012 #367 Share Posted January 14, 2012 This is so sad. I seriously considered booking this route and Costa for late spring. Something to consider when asking how they can run aground in such familiar area and regular sailings....this whole area of Italy, out in the Mediterranean and the Agean is a highly active volcanic area. The sea floor can certainly rise unknown to anyone when pressure builds in the mantle. That may or may not have happened. Too early to tell and I'm sure the investigation will go on for months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainelycruising Posted January 14, 2012 #368 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Aerial footage It is ironic how cruise line ads appear on the right side of that Youtube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoie Posted January 14, 2012 #369 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Yeah terrible news... my girlfriend was working there, we're from peru and her family and me dont know nothing about her... i dont know if this is too much to ask... here is 1:50am but if someone here is italian and it's able to get information there, plz write me right now... Oliver, I hope you've heard from your girlfriend by now. I'm in Europe (not Italy) so if I can help in any way (by making phonecalls, for example), just let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipfriend_max Posted January 14, 2012 #370 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Is there any chance to rescue/salvage the ship or does it sink definitely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpver Posted January 14, 2012 #371 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I went through the majority of the above postings and I have a few personal reflections: 1. my thoughts go to ALL passengers and crewmembers. Somewhere such accident will stay in their memory. And of course those who disappeared or are injured is very sad for them and their families. 2. there is always some "fatality" in major accidents, if it is a ship or an airliner crash. Apparently weather was not an issue here and for the reasons we have to wait the official investigations. Now in december 2010 outside the Falklands and Ushuaia we had a major storm on ms Veendam (approx 1250 pax) and major is 12 beaufort = hurricane force! Impressive, but never felt to be in danger. 3. remarks about the compulsory drill. To be honnest how serious passengers and crew are during this drill? Most of us as walking over there as during an excursion, some not happy because they feel it a loss of their free time. By coincidence end november (2011) on the drill I made a remark to my wife. I said look this "show", I wonder if there is really a disaster, I believe the reaction will be quite different! On top of that, I even made a remark that when the ship is more or less horizontal, it wud be ok... but what happens when the ship is hanging over on one side!!! Exactly what happened here !!!! 4. The tendency to built bigger and bigger monsters such as this one or worse the Oasis class of RCCL with nearly 6000 pax plus staff. An evacuation in urgency is and must be more difficult and much slower as the small size (style Seabourn, Windstar etc) and even what call "human scale" between the 600 and max 1500 pax. 5. Now it is certain that some people will say "Oh no, never cruising" but these are the same that at each aircrash they say they will not take a plane anymore. Statistically considering the number of pax carried and the low number of fatalities, these stay a safer mode of transport. You have more risks in drinving to the airport of the cruise terminal!!! And even if you know that the majority of people die in their bed.... Question to stay cool at these unreasonable reactions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pensionguy Posted January 14, 2012 #372 Share Posted January 14, 2012 This is Trev here, I finally managed to convince my girlfriend to come on a cruise (she's not fond of boats and has a mild fear of the ocean). With news breaking of a ship the size of ours (the ruby princess) running aground and basically sinking, she'll be freaking out and not wanting to go now. Any soothing words of advice from you cruising pros out there that I can use here>>??:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItalianGuest Posted January 14, 2012 Author #373 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Oliver, I hope you've heard from your girlfriend by now. I'm in Europe (not Italy) so if I can help in any way (by making phonecalls, for example), just let me know. I can help too. ItalianGuest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerspaceguy Posted January 14, 2012 #374 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Republica have the Marine Traffic track for Costa Concordia - looks like she was heading straight for Giglio at 15 knots.....either on the wrong heading, failed to make a turn, or turned too late.... Image attached Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliver_X Posted January 14, 2012 #375 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Oliver, I hope you've heard from your girlfriend by now. I'm in Europe (not Italy) so if I can help in any way (by making phonecalls, for example), just let me know. Hey Thoie thank you for that reply.. no i've not news from her.. crc (the business who contract her for concordia cant give me information about her). I don't know where to start about callings, i ve awake all the noight finding info about the peruvian crew in there. I was calling the emergency number 00 39 848 50 50 50 (the way to call from here) but it says "the number is out of service". So I'm still researching on internet finding numbers to call or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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