RBCL Posted January 14, 2012 #26 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Gal Posted January 14, 2012 #27 Share Posted January 14, 2012 What a terrible photo of a beautiful ship. One wonders how that could happen in this day and age. No wonder people panicked! Jennie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morriscats Posted January 14, 2012 #28 Share Posted January 14, 2012 OMG - that is truly heartbreaking. All of us who love cruising and call our ships "home" - to see one like this is so sad. Prayers for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickEk Posted January 14, 2012 #29 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Just heard the report on BBC World News (airs at 12:30 am on local PBS station). This is only speculation on my part as they didn't specifically say this, but the way they laid out the sequence of events seemed to imply that the ship began listing and taking on water first and then may have been intentionally run aground on that little island. They spoke with a crew member over the phone who said he had jumped overboard when the ship was still 400 m away from shore. Yes, it does appear that the Captain intentionally grounded the ship after she was already damaged. She was not scheduled to stop at that island. The whole thing is very sad (and should be a wake-up call for those who skip muster drills...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrzebird Posted January 14, 2012 #30 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Apparently, it didn't take very long for the ship to list to this degree. So terribly sad. My prayers to those lost and hurt, as well as the survivors. There were many positive factors, the most of which was the ship's close proximity to land and the speed of evacuating the ship. It will be interesting to follow this and see what went wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushka Posted January 14, 2012 #31 Share Posted January 14, 2012 The ship left from Civitavecchia, the port of Rome, and was on its way to Savona. A cc member's parents were going to embark the next day at Savona. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun Posted January 14, 2012 #32 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Hello All Very sad day for the world of cruising Thoughts and prayers to the families of the poor folks that have lost their lives. However many many questions need to answered. Crew are reporting passengers paniced people were crushed as croweds pushed their wat down the stairs. Panic at the life boats folks trying to jump onto them. OK none of us know how we will deal with something like this, but for those that think muster is a joke think again. Then there is the speed of the sinking the ship listed within minutes to the point that life boats were very hard to launch, this is one reason the captain set a coarse for the tiny harbour, better to sink in shallow water than deep better chance for all onboard. as to the cause it hit rocks OK but how did this happen, we will learn the truth in time, modern ships are still ships remember 100 years ago we thought things like this could not happen. yours Shogun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beopthtuh Posted January 14, 2012 #33 Share Posted January 14, 2012 very sad day for the cruise industry and cruisers in general ,a 2006 super cruise liner state of the art technology.lying on her side in a calm med , panicing staff and passengers ,pushing everyone to a extent of me first ,what happened to muster drill . theres folk on here like me who were on the star p when she caught fire and not one person was seen to be pushing others aside with the me first attitude just the opposite passengers helping each other and reassuring each other . my thoughts go out the the folks who sadly lost lives today. thats 2 itallian cruise ships this week that have run aground. time for answers to basic questions WHY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun Posted January 14, 2012 #34 Share Posted January 14, 2012 A picture that none of use ever want to see of a cruise ship, that is some amount of damage to the haul http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/16558997 report from steward onboard yours Shogun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wehwalt Posted January 14, 2012 #35 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Hello All Very sad day for the world of cruising Thoughts and prayers to the families of the poor folks that have lost their lives. However many many questions need to answered. Crew are reporting passengers paniced people were crushed as croweds pushed their wat down the stairs. Panic at the life boats folks trying to jump onto them. OK none of us know how we will deal with something like this, but for those that think muster is a joke think again. Then there is the speed of the sinking the ship listed within minutes to the point that life boats were very hard to launch, this is one reason the captain set a coarse for the tiny harbour, better to sink in shallow water than deep better chance for all onboard. as to the cause it hit rocks OK but how did this happen, we will learn the truth in time, modern ships are still ships remember 100 years ago we thought things like this could not happen. yours Shogun It will be interesting to hear what happened and the onboard sequence of events. The fact that people move at different speeds can be an annoyance sometimes; when combined with panic ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pakarinen Posted January 14, 2012 #36 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Just heard the report on BBC World News (airs at 12:30 am on local PBS station). This is only speculation on my part as they didn't specifically say this, but the way they laid out the sequence of events seemed to imply that the ship began listing and taking on water first and then may have been intentionally run aground on that little island. They spoke with a crew member over the phone who said he had jumped overboard when the ship was still 400 m away from shore. So the question might be, why did she start taking on water initially. :confused: If she lost power and the navaids were out, she could have drifted onto / into some rocks, but I'd guess it would have taken a major impact to spring her hull welds (a la Titanic). Ok, enough speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun Posted January 14, 2012 #37 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Hi There Why did see take on water, have a look a pic above that is a massive hole in the ship TV reports saying 50 missing yours Shogun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pakarinen Posted January 14, 2012 #38 Share Posted January 14, 2012 D'oh! I missed that, but see what you mean now that I look closely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun Posted January 14, 2012 #39 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Hi All Please check out these pics, there is a massive rock stinking out of the side of the ship, other pics not on this site shoe scrap looks like rock ripped along the side then went into the ship then got stuck amazing pics. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4061067/Cruise-ship-sinks-news-Eight-die-on-Costa-Concordia.html yours Shogun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 HappyCruiser Posted January 14, 2012 #40 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I guess there are a few cruisers who still believe people won't panic under any extreme circumstances if they're properly educated. No matter how well trained some people will become hysterical irregardless of the situation, muster training or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun Posted January 14, 2012 #41 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Hi All Recall the old story about ships where the bottle does not break when they name her, yours Shogun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srphnx Posted January 14, 2012 #42 Share Posted January 14, 2012 It could certainly have been much worse, they were only yards from land. Even I could swim that if needed. It is sad to see her on her side and the fatalities are hard to swallow, cruising is such a safe way to travel in general. Our thoughts go out to the affected families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Gramps Posted January 14, 2012 #43 Share Posted January 14, 2012 We had just heard on our news that 6 people have been killed or missing. Apparently quite a few panicked and jumped overboard. It apparently happened around 9pm after leaving the port of Savona. I do feel for everyone on board as it would be a frightening experience. Jennie Panicked or did the smart thing? The ship is a stones throw from shore. My question is "how do you know the water is deep enough to jump?" Gramps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Woobstr112G Posted January 14, 2012 #44 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I just heard about the sad and tragic news. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone concerened..... Bob update***** Fox news just reported 3 perished and 69 are still unaccounted for..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denims Posted January 14, 2012 #45 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Here are links for video and news: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16560617 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16558910 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvmyrotti Posted January 14, 2012 #46 Share Posted January 14, 2012 How frightening this must have been for the passengers, particularly children and the elderly or those with mobility issues (who would have difficulty with no elevators funtioning to navigate stairs and get to open decks). My thoughts and prayers go out to all passengers and crew. I would imagine that the implications to Costa and the parent company will be significant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzinchris Posted January 14, 2012 #47 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I first learned about this last night while checking CC. News reports this morning indicate that it was much worse than expected. Thoughts and prayers for the families of those who are still missing. http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20120114/EU.Italy.Cruise.Aground/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarEagle76 Posted January 14, 2012 #48 Share Posted January 14, 2012 This is the part I don't understand, why were muster and emergency procedures not completed prior to departure. One report stated that muster was put off until today so as not to interfere with dinner Friday night:eek:. "The evacuation drill was only scheduled for Saturday afternoon" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6pack Posted January 14, 2012 #49 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Terrible! Our thoughts are with the passengers and crew. You have to wonder why this ship was so close to the lighthouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carolyn R Posted January 14, 2012 #50 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Dozens of people are still unaccounted for. Very sad. No muster drill before sailing may prove to be disastrous. Please people, do not skip your muster drill when sailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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