Carnival Triumph - When will it be back in service?

[ib4cruzn]

We've been thinking about the damage that was done, and trying to estimate how long it will take Carnival to get the Triumph back in shape for sailings.....From what I hear, basically all the cabins need to be gutted out as well as most anything that has carpeting or soft surfaces. Mechanical items can be addressed quickly I would believe, but getting craftsman to tear out walls, reinstall, new carpeting, painting, etc....I am guessing about 5-6 months for all of that.

 

Thoughts? We are interested in booking in mid June, but I am hesitant to do so (ie book the Triumph) thinking that if we get cancelled, there won't be any lower cost options available in mid-June at a later date.

 

Thanks in advance for any replies.

 

Nah! Chewing gum, some tape and a little Febreeze...good to go!

[choclitsnda]

Nah! Chewing gum, some tape and a little Febreeze...good to go!

 

LOL!!! That's a good one. :D :) :D

[mbalmr71]

As far as the investigation goes they will only hold up the ship itself for a short time. Just like an autopsy, it only takes a couple of hours to complete but the subsequent investigation can take months.

 

They do the 2.0 refits in two weeks and that is a lot more extensive, however they have a plan and a lot of things staged. Triumph was due for this. My guess is that they may be trying to move this up since they will have her out of the water anyway with at least some of the demo work done. I am betting you see triumph 2.0 ready to go as planned in april

[misstopgun]

We are booked the last week in April. Our PVP told us that Carnival actully added an additional week more than they thought it would take to complete the repairs just to be on the safe side. Since that is still two voyages away from ours, I'm confident our ship will sail.

 

I don't think however that the 2.0 upgrades will be done at this time.

[chengkp75]

I am a former cruise ship Chief Engineer. The BMA investigation may take several months for the report, but the on scene forensics may well be over by now. That is the only thing holding up the mechanical repairs, and a complete engine overhaul takes about 4 weeks, with the ship's engineers and one or two manufacturer's reps.

 

As others have stated, the cabins will not need to be "gutted". When we refit the Norwegian Sky for the Hawaiian trade, every inch of carpeting was renewed throughout the ship. We had about 100 carpet layers, and they were done in 3 weeks. We also renewed every piece of soft furnishing (upholstery and curtains). We had about 150 upholsterers onboard (about 100 sewing machines, band saws for material cutting), and they were done in two weeks.

 

All of these craftsmen live onboard as the ship normally runs one of its own generators. The Triumph will not need drydocking, so there is no problem, once the halon is refilled. This reduces commuting time, lunch breaks, etc.

 

I would not expect any "2.0" improvements, unless the Triumph was scheduled for this in the near future, as the lead time for materials and staging is several months.

 

I would expect some furniture replacement, and some trim work in the cabins and public spaces, but if you put another 100 or so carpenters onboard, they can knock that out in a couple of weeks.

 

As one of the posters, who was onboard for the fire stated, the crew was already starting to clean up before docking. I saw the videos of the Carnival management meeting with the crew, and I know that some were transferred right away, but most of the crew is typically retained onboard during drydock/refurbishings, and the cabin stewards empty the cabins for the carpet layers, etc, and the bar/restaurant/casino staff work as cleaners after a section is refurbished, so the craftsmen do not need to slow down an clean up after themselves.

 

There was really no problem with plumbing, its just that without the power to run the vacuum pumps, the toilets won't flush, so there should not be any plumbing work needed.

[Rudyard]

I believe the 2.0 upgrades were scheduled for sometime next year. The speculation has been that if they could do it, it would save having to take Triumph out of service again in a year.

[hillbillycruisers]

I believe the 2.0 upgrades were scheduled for sometime next year. The speculation has been that if they could do it, it would save having to take Triumph out of service again in a year.

What exactly is done during the 2.0 upgrade? What improvements are made??:)

[Rudyard]

Link to 2.0 Upgrades

[chengkp75]

Since it looks like the 2.0 upgrades were scheduled for 2014, that's when her normally scheduled drydocking would most likely be. Since I don't see any reason to drydock now, and not knowing whether a drydock is available now in Mobile, she probably won't be docked. That being said, they won't worry about rushing the upgrades since the normally scheduled drydocking will still have to take place next year.

 

The cost of this repair at the shipyard, and the lost revenues from the cancelled cruises is covered by their insurance P&I club.

[VABeach]

I'm coming up with that timeline comparing how long it takes a home builder to finish a home. Pouring the concrete, framing, installing brick and insulation and maybe the sheetrock can be done quickly, but the detail of customizing walls, baseboards, woodwork, paint, etc, etc seems to take twice to three times as long as the basic structural work. 2 months just seems to me a very agressive timeline to get all of that type of work done.

 

We're just trying to weigh the options right now.

 

That's a good question! I work in a Shipyard, you'd be AMAZED what can get done in a week when you throw a few thousand skilled people on a job like that. No worries, they do it all the time. I've sailed on the Triumph. Beautiful ship! Enjoy!! :D

[Ex techie]

I am a former cruise ship Chief Engineer. The BMA investigation may take several months for the report, but the on scene forensics may well be over by now. That is the only thing holding up the mechanical repairs, and a complete engine overhaul takes about 4 weeks, with the ship's engineers and one or two manufacturer's reps.

 

As others have stated, the cabins will not need to be "gutted".

 

If the "reports" of faeces and urine running down the walls of the cabins are accurate, presumably the space between the cabin boxes would need to be cleaned or sanitized though and they would have to be gutted and rebuilt?

 

ex techie

[chengkp75]

If the "reports" of faeces and urine running down the walls of the cabins are accurate, presumably the space between the cabin boxes would need to be cleaned or sanitized though and they would have to be gutted and rebuilt?

 

ex techie

 

Glad you used the quotes on the word reports. If you read some blogs by actual passengers, they don't say much about faeces and urine running down the bulkheads.

 

It is very difficult to dismantle cabins, especially the ones that were pre-fabricated off-site and then delivered to the ship during assembly. They usually have one or two openings on each side of each deck, and the cabin boxes are brought in on forklifts and moved into position, so they have to go out in reverse order. They can dismantle the overheads (ceilings) and access the space between the cabins for sanitizing, but I really don't think that will be necessary.

[Ex techie]

Glad you used the quotes on the word reports. If you read some blogs by actual passengers, they don't say much about faeces and urine running down the bulkheads.

 

It is very difficult to dismantle cabins, especially the ones that were pre-fabricated off-site and then delivered to the ship during assembly. They usually have one or two openings on each side of each deck, and the cabin boxes are brought in on forklifts and moved into position, so they have to go out in reverse order. They can dismantle the overheads (ceilings) and access the space between the cabins for sanitizing, but I really don't think that will be necessary.

 

I take all trip reports with a "pinch of salt", but I have had a toilet back flow in my cabin (in a very spectacular fashion!) and had to be moved to a Guest cabin whilst it was stripped and decontaminated!

I totally agree with what you say about the cabin boxes being very difficult to disassemble and then rebuild.

I hope the clean up is a quick and short as possible.

[4133raw]

http://www2.wkrg.com/news/2013/mar/01/carnival-triumph-has-been-billed-ar-5708149/

 

Seen this by googling "Triumph repairs". The mayor said it could take another 6-8 weeks to finish.

[Ex techie]

http://www2.wkrg.com/news/2013/mar/01/carnival-triumph-has-been-billed-ar-5708149/

 

Seen this by googling "Triumph repairs". The mayor said it could take another 6-8 weeks to finish.

 

With respect, I'm not sure what the Mayor has to do with this.

Nor what experience or knowledge he has with repairing a ship? Has he even been on a ship?

[e150club]

I'm not a gambler but I'd bet she sails mid april. Decks three and up sold out and 300 labores waiting in mexico.

[Cruisin' Cool CAT]

Looking forward to meeting u folks. Just look for the 'old guy' with the white legs, in jamms and OU flip flops. Oh and the extreme rum drink with half a pineaple and orange hanging off of it.

 

Can't wait to see some white legs coming out of some jamms...haha!!!!

 

Now, the OU flip flops...I could do without seeing those...Hook Em' :p

 

Btw Texlane...if you haven't already, come on and join our roll call!!! :D

[Texlane]

Don't quite know how to do the roll call thing.....

[jmorgania]

Don't quite know how to do the roll call thing.....

 

 

I can help you find that Texlane. Go to the top of this page and under the cruise critic logo you should see a link to "cruise critic message board forum". This should bring you to the message board home page. Scroll down to the page to the "Roll Call" section. Select your cruise line from the sub headings and then select your ship on the next page. Then just scroll through the post until you find one with your sail date in the title. It is a message board dedicated for people sailing on that particular sailing. Great place to ask questions and meet people you will be sailing with.

 

Just to help out I found your roll call and included the direct link also.

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1730703

[gelo7]

We will know soon enough.