dongordon Posted August 31, 2013 #326 Share Posted August 31, 2013 I cannot read through all 17 pagers on this thread. One Question which will probably determine my decision...... Are Martinis included in the UBP? And if not, and you are ordering martinis, can you receive a discount if you have the package or must you pay full price for the martini? Thanks. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGonJohn Posted August 31, 2013 #327 Share Posted August 31, 2013 I believe elsewhere in this thread they listed what was not included and martinis were not, and no, you can't just pay the difference. I have thought about these packages for my wife & I, but it is just not worth it. I think the price is too high, and coupled with all the rules and restrictions on what you can get, this just doesn't seem worthwhile, unless you are a real heavy drinker. Most nights I'd be fine without an alcoholic drink and nites I'd want some, probably 3 or 4 drinks over the course of the evening is sufficient. Better off to pay per drink. Besides, I also have heard that many of their drinks are weak, as well. Personally, I think it is poor management on the part of NCL (and other cruise lines). Considering the wholesale prices they probably get the liquor at, they could offer a package like this, at a much more reasonable price, without all the restrictions, and still make a lot of money, and sell a lot more such packages, since the lower price would not deter people who are more moderate or occasional drinkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dongordon Posted September 1, 2013 #328 Share Posted September 1, 2013 My wife and I have two martinis each before dinner each night. :) Losing 24 drinks on my upcoming 12 day cruise negates this plan for me. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexandNessa Posted September 8, 2013 #329 Share Posted September 8, 2013 I know the UBP is suspended during Spring Break. Any word on whether it will be suspended during New Year's cruises? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dongordon Posted September 9, 2013 #330 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Gotta tell you. This is better than nothing if you're a heavy drinker, but comparatively speaking, it's a lousy plan (IMHO). We have sailed the last three times on Celebrity. Each time, my wife and I got their ultimate package. The regular price is $53 plus 15% gratuity, but about 2 times a year, they have a 10% off sale and you can pre-purchase, making their price about the same as NCL. Celebrity's plan includes all spirits (mixed or straight) that are priced at $12 or less. If you pick something that is priced higher, then they charge you only the difference. I'm a Belvedere Vodka drinker....no problem. Virtually all specialty drinks were priced at $12 or less, so they were included. All coffees (including specialty coffee), sodas, beer (think it had to be $6 or less), wine ($12 or less), as well as bottled water, were included. A much better program than NCL's. Hopefully, NCL will look at their competitors and improve their program. As it stands now, I won't buy it. I agree....this plan sucks. Celebrity is so much better!! We did it on the Silhouette two years ago and the specialty coffee were fantastic. Well worth it. Please NCL....wake up and smell the roses!! Without the martinis.....it is a bust!! Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbooden Posted September 9, 2013 #331 Share Posted September 9, 2013 My wife and I have two martinis each before dinner each night. :)Losing 24 drinks on my upcoming 12 day cruise negates this plan for me. Don I believe if you read more of this thread regular vodka and gin martinis are included but not the flavored ones. I could be wrong but that is what I have read:) cheers! Sent using the Cruise Critic forums app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGonJohn Posted September 9, 2013 #332 Share Posted September 9, 2013 (edited) Like many have said, NCL's UBP has too many rules and restrictions, and is unfair, in that, if you want something that exceeds the certain related values, you should just have to pay the difference. I tried to find the link to the actual latest info at NCL and could not. I wonder if there is anyway, and this would be helpful, to have a Sticky Thread at the top of this Norwegian Cruise Line sub-forum that would contain often requested, important links directly to NCL's site, such as the info on the UBP, also the Soda Package. a link that details the different levels of Latitude membership and what that provides, a direct link to email NCL Customer Relations, and any other info member feel ought to be in such a Sticky Thread. Edited September 9, 2013 by QuiGonJohn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammae Posted September 9, 2013 #333 Share Posted September 9, 2013 http://www.ncl.com/sites/default/files/Ultimate-Beverage-Package07192013.pdf Here's the latest UBP info from the ncl website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbigdanx Posted September 9, 2013 #334 Share Posted September 9, 2013 UBP is without a doubt, NOT worth it. We has purchased it when cruising Celebrity and had a great experience so we figured we'd go with the same sort of package on NCL. It was the biggest waste of money. So much stuff is not covered. Most cruise lines will just make you cover the difference on things not covered (if the limit is $8.50 a cocktail, and you want one that is $8.75, you pay only $.25) but NCL charges you the full 8.75. There was even a day when I ordered the drink of the day, the bartender made it, and when he saw I was on the UBP, he said "OH, you are on the UBP?" and got a smaller glass and poured half of the drink he had just made into the glass. Very frustrating overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcwingwalker Posted September 9, 2013 #335 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I know the UBP is suspended during Spring Break. Any word on whether it will be suspended during New Year's cruises? Best news I've heard today............Spring Breakers do not need more incentive to drink! Mom of 2 who did all the college "things"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGonJohn Posted September 9, 2013 #336 Share Posted September 9, 2013 There was even a day when I ordered the drink of the day, the bartender made it, and when he saw I was on the UBP, he said "OH, you are on the UBP?" and got a smaller glass and poured half of the drink he had just made into the glass. That is absurd. So the same drink, if you are on the UBP, they give you a much smaller, (half), one. Just one more reason not to waste my money on this. I'd rather drink a less alcohol in a day, than I otherwise might, buy a few drinks per glass, and not feel like I am getting ripped off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare KeithJenner Posted September 9, 2013 #337 Share Posted September 9, 2013 UBP is without a doubt, NOT worth it. Not worth it for you maybe, but lots of people find that it is worth it for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomad098 Posted September 9, 2013 #338 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Having had the UBP on the Epic we have mixed feelings on it I had my moneys worth my wife did not overall we probably broke even My wife said she felt she was drinking virgin cocktails towards the end of the cruise just for the sake of it to make the most of the package No problem with small glasses the same as everyone else we just had to pay for one full priced drink each in the souvenir glass We did not drink a lot of alcohol but we did try a lot of virgin cocktails as we had planned to stay on in some ports with only half days in others For a port intensive cruise we would not purchase it It was nice knowing we could try different cocktails and concoctions without worrying about the bill at the end of the week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryceRun Posted September 12, 2013 #339 Share Posted September 12, 2013 We prepaid & the sticker was on our cards when we got them at the pier. We were able to go straight to the bar when we boarded..............;) Most useful comment on this whole thread!!! Thank you!!! After reading through this thread I determined the worst part about the UBP would be standing in line to buy it for 30 minutes listening to the people in front of you asking the same what if questions over and over and over again. Even the article on cruise critic that compares all the cruise lines’ drink packages answers 95% of questions that have been asked here (in duplicate). Of course I’m sure you deal with that at the bars throughout cruise. On the first page someone linked a NCL PDF that lists all NCL carried liquor and beer and what is highlighted in yellow is included on the UBP. What you are NOT able to order on the UBP is very minimal. If your tastes are that refined to where you HAVE to drink those brands then you are used to paying big $ for drinks anyway, so just pay by the glass. Thank all of you for your actual stories of using the UBP, very helpful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbigdanx Posted September 12, 2013 #340 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Not worth it for you maybe, but lots of people find that it is worth it for them. The reason I say "without a doubt not worth it" is how limiting it is. I'm sure if there are people who only drink budweiser or bottom shelf cocktails, it's more than worth it. That's what was so disappointing about it - other cruise lines beverage packages all are FAR LESS limiting. I'm also not alone I found out. Out of a boat with approximtely 4500 people on it, only 4 cabins purchased the UBP. My cabin and my buddies were 2 of those. We were naive.. now we know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbigdanx Posted September 12, 2013 #341 Share Posted September 12, 2013 On the first page someone linked a NCL PDF that lists all NCL carried liquor and beer and what is highlighted in yellow is included on the UBP. What you are NOT able to order on the UBP is very minimal. If your tastes are that refined to where you HAVE to drink those brands then you are used to paying big $ for drinks anyway, so just pay by the glass. We felt the same way which is why we purchased the UBP. I'd say of everything on the boat, you only had access to about 20% of the available beverages with UBP. Maybe I've just been spoiled with Celebrity's drink package which literally covers everything on the boat. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryceRun Posted September 12, 2013 #342 Share Posted September 12, 2013 The reason I say "without a doubt not worth it" is how limiting it is. I'm sure if there are people who only drink budweiser or bottom shelf cocktails, it's more than worth it. That's what was so disappointing about it - other cruise lines beverage packages all are FAR LESS limiting. I'm also not alone I found out. Out of a boat with approximtely 4500 people on it, only 4 cabins purchased the UBP. My cabin and my buddies were 2 of those. We were naive.. now we know better. Please look at the attached PDF on first page of this thread then honestly come back and try to explain how it limits your alcohol selection. To stick with your beer analogy, much more then BUD my friend. NCL carries approximately 37 beers and ONLY 9 are EXCLUDED. Also well over 80% of on board liquor is included most of that is NOT “bottom” shelf! Just one quick example, sure Grey Goose is NOT included but Kettle and Van Gogh are, equal (if not better) quality vodkas. They just aren’t as poplar with rappers. Wild Turkey 101, Dewers 12yr,Goslings black seal, Bacardi 8, the Kraken are ALL INCLUDED. Definitely not “bottom” shelf. Not limiting and if it is then the entire inventory, UBP or not, is limiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time2cruise1 Posted September 12, 2013 #343 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Please look at the attached PDF on first page of this thread then honestly come back and try to explain how it limits your alcohol selection. To stick with your beer analogy, much more then BUD my friend. NCL carries approximately 37 beers and ONLY 9 are EXCLUDED. Also well over 80% of on board liquor is included most of that is NOT “bottom” shelf! Just one quick example, sure Grey Goose is NOT included but Kettle and Van Gogh are, equal (if not better) quality vodkas. They just aren’t as poplar with rappers. Wild Turkey 101, Dewers 12yr,Goslings black seal, Bacardi 8, the Kraken are ALL INCLUDED. Definitely not “bottom” shelf. Not limiting and if it is then the entire inventory, UBP or not, is limiting. The only limited factor is not the brands offered but how you can have them. Martinis are excluded for the most part. I was able to work around it and ordered Ketel up. They charged the UBP for 2 Ketels since martinis are a double that kept their inventory correct. You want a Cosmo with Ketel Citron not going to happen. The plan worked well since we were on a TA with no ports. Can't see how it would pay for itself on a port intensive itinerary. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk - Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nancy8250 Posted September 12, 2013 #344 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Okay, just got off the Dawn a couple of weeks ago. Purchased UBP and was definately worth it! I did not find it all limited. Was able to have mimosa's in the morning, beer early afternoon, wine with dinner and martini, if I wanted later in the evening. Of the seven of us who purchased it I heard no complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbigdanx Posted September 12, 2013 #345 Share Posted September 12, 2013 (edited) Please look at the attached PDF on first page of this thread then honestly come back and try to explain how it limits your alcohol selection. To stick with your beer analogy, much more then BUD my friend. NCL carries approximately 37 beers and ONLY 9 are EXCLUDED. Also well over 80% of on board liquor is included most of that is NOT “bottom” shelf! Just one quick example, sure Grey Goose is NOT included but Kettle and Van Gogh are, equal (if not better) quality vodkas. They just aren’t as poplar with rappers. Wild Turkey 101, Dewers 12yr,Goslings black seal, Bacardi 8, the Kraken are ALL INCLUDED. Definitely not “bottom” shelf. Not limiting and if it is then the entire inventory, UBP or not, is limiting. I'm just speaking from my actual experience, not what a PDF says. And to be fair, from what others have recently said, it sounds like people's experiences may vary. I ordered a white russian - not on the UBP I was told. I didn't specify what type of vodka or anything. As far as I know, a white russian is vodka, Kuala, a milk. Nothing crazy. My main point is that my experience with the UBP and what the PDF say are completely different. Edited September 12, 2013 by xbigdanx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryceRun Posted September 12, 2013 #346 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Well that is disappointing, it sounds like they have a staff training issue that creates variances in experience. I guess they stick strongly to that “one liquor” in a drink rule. I enjoy a white Russian later at night too; I guess I’ll just substitute Bailey’s on the rocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kunigit Posted September 12, 2013 #347 Share Posted September 12, 2013 So I've read over most of this thread and still have a question. I am a scotch/whiskey drinker and usually prefer my drinks neat. Can I get them like this on the UBP?? I can see them trying to slow drinkers down by requiring a mixer or so dumb rule like that. Also, can I get shots? I like to have a shot or three to start my evenings sometimes. I see there are a lot of scotch and whiskey options listed on the "approved" list, but wanted to know if anyone has had real life experience ordering these neat or in shots??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B6ConMe Posted September 13, 2013 #348 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Okay, just got off the Dawn a couple of weeks ago. Purchased UBP and was definately worth it! I did not find it all limited. Was able to have mimosa's in the morning, beer early afternoon, wine with dinner and martini, if I wanted later in the evening. Of the seven of us who purchased it I heard no complaints. Nice to hear from someone who actually enjoyed having the UBP. However, I have a question :confused:, if you were to price each drink you had each day, would it have totalled $50/day. And were you travelling solo? If so, I could certainly see where it would be worth it for you. The problem many have is that, one person enjoys a drink or 2 or 3 ... whatever.. the other person is either a non drinker or limits themselves to only one or two so would it still have been worth then? :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time2cruise1 Posted September 13, 2013 #349 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Nice to hear from someone who actually enjoyed having the UBP. However, I have a question :confused:, if you were to price each drink you had each day, would it have totalled $50/day. And were you travelling solo? If so, I could certainly see where it would be worth it for you. The problem many have is that, one person enjoys a drink or 2 or 3 ... whatever.. the other person is either a non drinker or limits themselves to only one or two so would it still have been worth then? :o If either is just having 2 or 3 or whatever the package is a waste of money. A couple bloody Mary's with breakfast,2 $ 9.50 wine with lunch that comes to $11 plus with tip at lunch, cocktails before dinner, a couple glasses of wine with dinner, and an after dinner cocktail and you are just in the black. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk - Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGonJohn Posted September 13, 2013 #350 Share Posted September 13, 2013 The problem many have is that, one person enjoys a drink or 2 or 3 ... whatever.. the other person is either a non drinker or limits themselves to only one or two so would it still have been worth then? If either is just having 2 or 3 or whatever the package is a waste of money. A couple bloody Mary's with breakfast,2 $ 9.50 wine with lunch that comes to $11 plus with tip at lunch, cocktails before dinner, a couple glasses of wine with dinner, and an after dinner cocktail and you are just in the black. Yes, the forcing everyone to buy it is probably the biggest turn off, I know many couples, my wife & I included, where one partner may drink 6, 8 or more drinks during a day, yet the other might have only 2 or 3, if that. Doesn't really pay when the total of both drinks individually is less than the 2 packages, especially when the heavy drinker could easily cut back a bit and be fine with that. I know myself, I could just have 3 or 4 in an evening, if I wanted to save a little money, and not really miss those other few drinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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