OCruisers Posted March 15, 2013 #1 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Yet another Carnival ship (Legend) is having technical problems. :rolleyes: Seems to be something wrong with the azipod (affects the ship's speed). Legend has missed Grand Cayman and is "limping" slowly back to Tampa. LuLu ~~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare oskidunker Posted March 15, 2013 #2 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Reading the Carnival boards before they froze up, the carnival faithful are fearcely defending Carnival and proclaiming they will remain loyal. Does a ship have to sink before the realize that this cut rate line is not performing the necessary maintenance to avoid these problems?Citing that the failures do happen and are a small minority of all sailings is fine but the problem is the last three in a row have been on the SAME cruise line. I doubt its a coiincidence. If this were happening on Princess, I would look elsewhere as much as I like Princess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EV2008 Posted March 15, 2013 #3 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Reading the Carnival boards before they froze up, the carnival faithful are fearcely defending Carnival and proclaiming they will remain loyal. Does a ship have to sink before the realize that this cut rate line is not performing the necessary maintenance to avoid these problems?Citing that the failures do happen and are a small minority of all sailings is fine but the problem is the last three in a row have been on the SAME cruise line. I doubt its a coiincidence. If this were happening on Princess, I would look elsewhere as much as I like Princess. You do know that Princess is owned by Carnival Corp:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare oskidunker Posted March 15, 2013 #4 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Carnival and Princess do not share information on maintenance problems, Ships are built to different specs. Princess typically spends more than Carnival for their ships, in part because they invest in better hardware. In fact, most people aren't aware, but the Grand Princess is significantly different than the Golden and Star in that her mechanicals were all 5-star, top of the line. How the lines maintain what they've built is also a factor in performance. I don't think the mechanical performance of another line's ships translates to another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz54 Posted March 15, 2013 #5 Share Posted March 15, 2013 You do know that Princess is owned by Carnival Corp:rolleyes: This always confuses people. Carnival Cruises is owned by Carnival Corp. Carnival Corp is the Parent Company of many. Princess Cruiselines, Carnival Cruises, HAL, Cunard etc. But each company operates independently. Carnival is the budget Line, Cunard the high end. I'm begining to wonder if Carnival is cutting corners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCruisers Posted March 15, 2013 Author #6 Share Posted March 15, 2013 This always confuses people. Carnival Cruises is owned by Carnival Corp. Carnival Corp is the Parent Company of many. Princess Cruiselines, Carnival Cruises, HAL, Cunard etc. But each company operates independently. Carnival is the budget Line, Cunard the high end. I'm begining to wonder if Carnival is cutting corners? It also confuses some that each company within Carnival Corp operates completely independently. Glad you pointed this out. LuLu ~~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam in CA Posted March 15, 2013 #7 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Just to put this into perspective, other lines have had major problems with the Azipod propulsion systems. This could possibly not be a Carnival problem but an Azipod issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhopal21 Posted March 15, 2013 #8 Share Posted March 15, 2013 In fact, most people aren't aware, but the Grand Princess is significantly different than the Golden and Star in that her mechanicals were all 5-star, top of the line. How the lines maintain what they've built is also a factor in performance So much different that Skywalkers night club had to be removed from the Grand and not the others. I would say that maintenance is the problem, plain and simple. A little too much cost-cutting in that department has bitten them in the posterior. Mike:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing55 Posted March 15, 2013 #9 Share Posted March 15, 2013 So many folks are pointing to maintenance cost cutting as the issue. I may be in error, but I actually think CCL has INCREASED maint. spending. I don't have the source (lost it) but I do recall reading that recently. The other thing is that so far, most of these incidents are unique, with maybe Azipod being an exception?? So these are repeated incidents in other ships. I'm not stating the Carnival is just having some bad luck, but one just has to believe that after the second incident that they would be as diligent as ever. Is it more of a personnel issue? I have no idea one way or another. But I think it's short sighted to say that these incidents are just due to inadequate maintenance funding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovevacadays Posted March 16, 2013 #10 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Wow. That is too bad. Maybe not for those who want to continue cruising Carnival. It is possible that all this bad news might mean even cheaper fares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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