Rare jimbo5544 Posted September 20, 2013 #101 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Which makes it funny when you read posts suggesting name changes for the Triumph, Victory, or the Freedom. No other ship in the Carnival fleet had as bad a reputation where they actually had to bury the name. That is because they are not burying the name. Not sure at all what you mean by the other three ships you mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohiogymrat Posted September 20, 2013 #102 Share Posted September 20, 2013 How many "newbie" cruisers would have been aware of Destiny's past? If they are saavy enough to find out about Destiny, seems reasonable to assume they would figure out Sunshine is a refurbished ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Boy Posted September 20, 2013 #103 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Oh Good Lord... in a hundred years what will it matter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kybluecruiser Posted September 20, 2013 #104 Share Posted September 20, 2013 oh good lord...In a hundred years what will it matter... amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ4 Posted September 20, 2013 #105 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Oh Good Lord...in a hundred years what will it matter... In a hundred years we'll be talking about the Carnival Topeka being renamed the Carnival Boise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwm51 Posted September 20, 2013 #106 Share Posted September 20, 2013 THIS THREAD IS SO OVER!:eek: I'm a gonna start a new rum-runner/smoking/chair hog thread!:p;) I want to be REALLY entertained!:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeman27 Posted September 20, 2013 #107 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Me thinks you are making way to much of the word "new". Isn't embellished otherwised called marketing or PR? WHo sets those standards? Where does it begin and end? Royal calls the market place in the center of some of its ships Central Park....I am mad because it is not really Central Park! How can they lie and embellish like that? Catch my point?;) No, I don't catch your point. There is in other places a 'Central Park' as there is a 'Main street'. Royal did not call their Central Park, Manhattens or New York City's Central Park. New means just what the word implies, NEW. Carnivals marketing or PR calling the ship new is just not true. To most people new means new...Get my point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjknox Posted September 20, 2013 #108 Share Posted September 20, 2013 you mean like this? Bill Not even comparable Bill. Liberty of the Seas received a light cleaning compared to what was done to the Carnival Destiny. In past refurbishments Carnival has made it clear that the ship underwent a refurbishment. The Destiny however got completely gutted. It's like if you bought a used car that had every last component replaced except for the outer shell it would be a new car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkcor Posted September 20, 2013 #109 Share Posted September 20, 2013 The Destiny however got completely gutted. It's like if you bought a used car that had every last component replaced except for the outer shell it would be a new car. i don't think anybody would consider that a new car. they would consider it a 'restored' or 'refurbished' 'classic' or 'late model' car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfadj Posted September 20, 2013 #110 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Oh Good Lord...in a hundred years what will it matter... You can say that about lots of things but would lead to a very boring life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ematic81 Posted September 20, 2013 #111 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Who cares????? You can put a first time cruiser on the sensation and if its their first time on that ship it is new to them.. I just don't get why people get worked up about something so trivial. They don't say it's brand new do they??? There are new things onboard isn't it??? I can't wait to sail the new sunshine!! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjknox Posted September 20, 2013 #112 Share Posted September 20, 2013 i don't think anybody would consider that a new car. they would consider it a 'restored' or 'refurbished' 'classic' or 'late model' car. No Mark. No. It was an analogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeman27 Posted September 20, 2013 #113 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Not even comparable Bill. Liberty of the Seas received a light cleaning compared to what was done to the Carnival Destiny. In past refurbishments Carnival has made it clear that the ship underwent a refurbishment. The Destiny however got completely gutted. It's like if you bought a used car that had every last component replaced except for the outer shell it would be a new car. The Destiny did not get completely gutted. That would mean every cabin was removed and replaced, just did not happen, every last component was not replaced, Your post was greatly embellished. The Destiny however was refurbished and renovated at great cost, and was made to look almost new with many improvements and should be represented that way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatka Posted September 20, 2013 #114 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Who cares????? You can put a first time cruiser on the sensation and if its their first time on that ship it is new to them.. I just don't get why people get worked up about something so trivial. They don't say it's brand new do they??? There are new things onboard isn't it??? I can't wait to sail the new sunshine!! Lol So then ... why call it New? Why Sensation isn't called New and all other ships for that matter? New and new to somebody, but not so new are two different things. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady_cruiser Posted September 20, 2013 #115 Share Posted September 20, 2013 So? I feel the same way "SO?" n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisecritiquer Posted September 20, 2013 #116 Share Posted September 20, 2013 On carnival's page they have: VIDEOS Breeze Virtual Tour Dry Dock Recap Watch a new day rise at sea, in the form of Carnival Sunshine. Virtual Tour Take a quick flight through the dry dock renovations. The Very Hot Carnival Sunshine The fun shines so intensely that this ship sizzles. http://www.carnival.com/cruise-ships/carnival-sunshine.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjknox Posted September 21, 2013 #117 Share Posted September 21, 2013 One more thing...... On the Sunshine's web page it clearly states that she was formerly the Destiny and is now the Sunshine. People should do their "due diligence" if it's that big of an issue for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ematic81 Posted September 21, 2013 #118 Share Posted September 21, 2013 So then ... why call it New? Why Sensation isn't called New and all other ships for that matter? New and new to somebody, but not so new are two different things. :) Would you prefer them use "introducing the new to you carnival sunshine"??? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvercrikhix Posted September 21, 2013 #119 Share Posted September 21, 2013 I am not going to read 6 pages of chattering. I agree with Darth. Period. It is an insult to those who know better. It is misleading to new cruisers. It is dishonest. It is false advertising. The Carnival Sunshine is not a new ship, she is the refurbished Destiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohiogymrat Posted September 21, 2013 #120 Share Posted September 21, 2013 I am not going to read 6 pages of chattering. I agree with Darth. Period. It is an insult to those who know better. It is misleading to new cruisers. It is dishonest. It is false advertising. The Carnival Sunshine is not a new ship, she is the refurbished Destiny. As has been mentioned a few times in this thread.... on the carnival website sunshine is listed as the transformed Destiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadypacked Posted September 21, 2013 #121 Share Posted September 21, 2013 [quote name='S.S.Oceanlover']It's not about sailing her or not since Darth knows bettter. It's about misleading people who don't know about better. It's false advertisement. Bill[/quote] This exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PresDuLac Posted September 21, 2013 #122 Share Posted September 21, 2013 As others have said.... SO? I also DO NOT care in the least. Can't wait to cruise on Sunshine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvercrikhix Posted September 21, 2013 #123 Share Posted September 21, 2013 [quote name='ohiogymrat']As has been mentioned a few times in this thread.... on the carnival website sunshine is listed as the transformed Destiny.[/QUOTE] Okay...so they are truthful there. The brochure provided by the OP is dishonest, misleading and false advertising. To those of you all saying "so"...... So a large corporation is falsely advertising one of the ships as "new"...... If you don't see that as an issue or a problem....... :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sh1035 Posted September 21, 2013 #124 Share Posted September 21, 2013 So who really cares? If it bothers you file a lawsuit but if not let it go. Go outside, breath the air, I'm going for a walk on the beach. No lawsuit just stirring the pot along with others. Seems like a crappy way to spend the weekend or life? My fruity Cheerios only had half a scoop.......I'm posting that in the Cheerios forum!!!! I would hate to go on sunshine, it would suck even sitting on serenity deck looking at the islands pass by while I'm bitching to anyone that cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snownyet Posted September 21, 2013 #125 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Can we just get past this and back to talking about dress codes, chair hogs and smoking? This "new" sunshine stuff is distracting us from our real purpose here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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