smoking permitted in all cabins ???

[themom]

I like most smoker do not smoke in the cabin. I always use the baclony that is if I have one. I will be on my first cruise without balcony on The elation, They do not have balcony rooms.

When on deck I always make sure I'm on the smoking side. It is not our intention to make your cruise a bad one. We just want to do things by the rules. I have never smelled a cruise room that smelt of smoke. Except some of the inside rooms and it was not cigarette smoke I smelled it was pot. This I smelled everytime we passed the room in the hall.

Have a great cruise and maybe if room is bad you need some fabreeze.

[peterv]

Hmm, now let's see, the last cruise ship fire that was caused by smoking in the cabins was when?

 

I don't know either, so much for the safety aspect!

 

Now let's see, why would the cabins be free from that nasty evil icky cigarette smoke smell? Ahem....cough.....cough

 

Could it possibly be because no ones spends that much TIME in the cabins smoking, or that the stewards take care of cleaning it twice a day? Hmm, no, couldn't be that.

 

Cheers,

Peter

[F5Loar]

The cruise lines are not like Vegas because in Vegas you can now gamble in smoke free casino areas and their motels have plenty of non-smoking rooms. So even Vegas and Atlantic City have changed with the times. Why not the cruise ships? I disagree in that if the minority are the smokers you will fill up the non-smoking rooms first and then have to ask a non-smokers to take a smoking room which they probably will unless they are extremely sensitive to the previous left behind smoke. You want have empty rooms because as the time gets near it is our senior citizens that book the last minute cruise(many in the Florida area keep their bags packed year round) and they tend to smoke more than the younger cruisers. But it is the younger cruiser that is cruising more these days as the average age comes down and they will more than likely be non-smokers. And like Disney which has responded to the changing times, Carnival is fast becoming a total family cruise. Is their children's program not voted the 2nd best in the industry? In doing so Carnival needs to change to the needs and wishes of their majority customers which right now and will continue to be non-smokers as the cruising age lowers. Face the facts here, smoking is no longer socially acceptable for not only health reasons but fire safety also. When is the last time you lite up in the Simthsonian or on a White House tour? Our government knows the dangers. Smokers will never win the agrugment they are safer by smoking.

While many smokers do adhere to the rules and others even are very polite to others many are not. I had my little girl get burned by a walking smoker on the Lido deck sail away party on a Disney cruise. The part of about the smoker getting drunk and going back to the room also holds up while they are standing drunk with cigarette in hand. At least a non-smoking drunk will just fall down not creating a fire hazard. And please you smokers don't tell me you have never smelled smoke ridden rooms when you first arrive. That's a little redundant. Try becoming a non-smoking and then say it.

[luv2cruise99]

I think having some non-smoking cabins and some smoking cabins would be a logistical nightmare for the cruiseline. How could they possibly anticipate how many to have of each giving the fluctuations in passenger composition from week to week? I think once they say they have non-smoking cabins, those who don't smoke would then feel entitled to a non-smoking cabin and be unwilling to except a smoking cabin if the non-smoking cabins were sold out. Likewise, I don't think many smokers would be willing to except a non-smoking cabin if the smoking one's were filled. Even Disney doesn't try to divide their cabins between smoking and non-smoking. ALL Disney cabins are non-smoking. I think that is the only approach that can work: either ALL smoking or ALL non-smoking. Each cruiseline has to decide for themselves which is best based on their passenger demographics.

 

I admit that cigarette smoke doesn't bother me a bit and I probably wouldn't even notice it if it was there (I don't smoke, but I have been raised around smokers), but I have read on these boards many accounts from non-smokers (even sensitive non-smokers) who stated that they didn't smell any smoke in their cabin. I think that the cleaning regimen that the cruiselines employ to eliminate smoke works well for the vast majority of passengers and is far easier than trying to designate non-smoking cabins.

[serene56]

Does Holland America or Princess have non smoking cabins?

[mrscintn]

Does Holland America or Princess have non smoking cabins?

 

No they do not.

 

The only cruiselines that do not allow smoking in the cabins are Disney ( but you can smoke on the verandah) and Oceania.........There is also one European line, Peter Deillman out of Germany, that does not allow smoking in the staterooms.

[yogimax]

It would be a logistical nightmare.

 

We can harness the power of the atom... we can send messages almost instantaneously around the world... we can take a picture of an individual standing in front of their house from space...

 

and we can't figure out how to allocate a certain number of cabins on a cruise ship for non-smokers??? C'mon, it can be done and ultimately the cruise line that figures it out will be a step ahead of the others!

[Hebejeebe]

and we can't figure out how to allocate a certain number of cabins on a cruise ship for non-smokers??? C'mon, it can be done and ultimately the cruise line that figures it out will be a step ahead of the others!

 

 

Hotels have figured out how to have non-smoking rooms. A cruise ship is a floating hotel. They could easily do it. Start off and allocate 1/3 of cabins as non-smoking. Evaluate demand and adjust accordingly. Smokers have it easy....they can always smoke outside the cabin. It's the non-smokers that suffer when they get a cabin vacated by a heavy smoker. :eek:

[yogimax]

Hotels have figured out how to have non-smoking rooms. A cruise ship is a floating hotel. They could easily do it. Start off and allocate 1/3 of cabins as non-smoking. Evaluate demand and adjust accordingly. Smokers have it easy....they can always smoke outside the cabin. It's the non-smokers that suffer when they get a cabin vacated by a heavy smoker. :eek:

 

Absolutely correct Hebe! I chuckled over one of the arguments that cruisers will be demanding port or starboard, etc., etc.. Why should non-smokers be held hostage to the whims of 23% of the population?

[debzkidz]

We just got off the Elation yesterday, and I'm here to tell you our room smelled like an overflowing ashtray. It would almost knock you down every time you opened the door. DH is very allergic to smoke and has a very sensitive sense of smell. The minute we would walk in our cabin, his nose would start running. I on the other hand don't have much of a sense of smell, but I could even smell this.

 

We talked to the Purser's desk, who said if the ship wasn't full, they could help us, but because it was there was nothing they could do, but give us a fan and a bottle of champagne. It was clearly coming from the a/c vent. We tired closing the vent it wouldn't close all the way. When we told them it was coming from the vent we were told there was no way it could be coming in from someone else's room through the vent system.

 

DH and I ended up climbing on the bed and covering the vent with drycleaning bags and towels. At one point a corner of the bag came loose and the air started blowing out, so I climbed up to fix it. It was like having someone blow smoke right in my face:mad: . Needless to say, it got rather warm in our room. We ended up leaving the door open anytime we were in our room with our lovely fan sitting in the door, trying to blow in some cool, fresh air. It looked like the Clampitt's Go Cruising!

 

Our son's were in the room next door to us, and their room was fine, until we put the plastic on our vent. Then their room started stinking. But there's no way the smell could be coming through the vent!

[tef43]

The only cruiselines that do not allow smoking in the cabins are Disney ( but you can smoke on the verandah) and Oceania.........There is also one European line, Peter Deillman out of Germany, that does not allow smoking in the staterooms.

Back in the day, NCL experimented with the concept of port/starboard smoking/nonsmoking. As with most everything that NCL has touched in recent years, it was like turning gold into lead. The practice was discontinued after a while, having been totally unmanageable.

[98Charlie]

Absolutely correct Hebe! I chuckled over one of the arguments that cruisers will be demanding port or starboard, etc., etc.. Why should non-smokers be held hostage to the whims of 23% of the population?

Sorry, maybe my comment wasn't clear. It would also be possible for a non-smoker to have a specific cabin/area and be told "sorry, it's a smoking cabin".

 

Just one more hurdle (yes, small as it may be) to contend with if they would divide a ship.

 

Charlie

[yogimax]

Sorry, maybe my comment wasn't clear. It would also be possible for a non-smoker to have a specific cabin/area and be told "sorry, it's a smoking cabin".

 

Just one more hurdle (yes, small as it may be) to contend with if they would divide a ship.

 

Charlie

 

Charlie,

You raise a valid concern. I really think it could be remedied though by alternating designated smoking and non-smoking areas and holding a number of cabins as flex, which could be later designated as need arises.

[GoinCruisin]

Sorry folks, but do you realize how many people smoke in "non smoking" hotel rooms???? I have been in plenty where you could tell people smoked... don't think it would be any different on a ship, especially the number of people that prefer to choose their own cabin, if that cabin were designated non smoking, you can bet that person would likely take it... happens all the time in hotels, I don't see how THAT is going to solve any problems... that being said, I have stayed in plenty of hotel rooms that smelled like an ashtray, but none on a ship...

[CCJack]

The cruise lines really need to do something rather than nothing about this issue. Just accepting the fact that their ships are full and not changing with the times will not work for long - especially with all of the ships being built.

 

I am sure that smoking takes place in hotel non smoking rooms, but not as much as if there were no separation at all. Even if the cruiselines asked your preference, but didn't guarantee anything to anyone, would at least show some sort of effort. The logisitics could be handled with computers, and maybe there are a lot of people who are non smokers who really would sign up as no-preference (ie, "first available" as in restaurant) for the right ship right ports, etc.

 

It is the spirit of their cooperation that would please a lot of people. This is right up there with the $35.00 soda card for a 9-year old. It just makes people mad - because it shoes that they are trying to suck every last dollar out of you. How about giving kids under 12 a soda card for $10 ? If I were cruise line king that is what I would do, but then again, I am not !!!!!!!!!

[OhJinkies]

I'll be bringing a small bottle of Febreeze with me... and if my neighbors on the adjoining balcony light up, I might just be aiming it their way. If they find it irritating, they might get a hint of what I'm feeling. I'm allergic to cigarette smoke and as soon as I'm around it, it's in my hair, clothes, even my skin stinks and it's hard to get rid of the odor.

[hstrybuf]

Ummm, rather than start an argument with your smoking neighbor, you might try a compromise if it bothers you that badly.

[yogimax]

Ummm, rather than start an argument with your smoking neighbor, you might try a compromise if it bothers you that badly.

 

No one here suggested starting an argument. But I am curious, what might the compromise be?

[F5Loar]

Give a kid a soda card for $10? How about FREE like Disney does. Oh sure they charge more than others but would you really object to another $5 added to your ticket without your knowledge if it covered free sodas for all!!!

Disney now has soda fountains on the Lido for everyone. They still charge if you order one from the bar.

I know this smoking/non-smoking stateroom could work out to the best of both. All the non-smokers would just love being together on the same side of the ship living without the fear of running into second hand smoke in the hallways and balconies and all the smokers would love knowing they only need knock on the door next to them to bum another cigarette. Sounds like a match made in heaven for both. I know Carnvial is reading this post.

PS: It's been a few years since I last cruised Disney and I thought back then you had a choice but now I see there is no choice, ALL rooms are now non-smoking and they ask for smokers to only smoke on the rooms with balconies on the balcony only. Sounds like Disney is really catching up to the times quickly.

[DreDay]

I find it odd that Carnival is so adament that you do not have an iron in your room but they allow you to smoke. I would think that it easier to accidentally start a room fire with a cigarette than with an iron.

[CrazyMums]

I'll be bringing a small bottle of Febreeze with me... and if my neighbors on the adjoining balcony light up, I might just be aiming it their way.

 

I doubt if anyone would intentionally AIM the smoke in your direction. However, if a balcony neighbor intentionally sprayed something in my direction, there would be problems. I am a considerate smoker 99% of the time, but when someone gets in my face waving their arms around when I'm in a designated smoking area, they don't deserve any consideration. More than half the areas in the ship are non-smoking now. IMHO, reverse discrimination. I think the cruise lines have gone overboard trying to appease the non-smokers and they're still not satisfied. They've taken away the right to smoke in restaurants and bars in many states, putting many of the smaller bars out of business. Enough is enough. Smokers have rights too.

 

BTW, your Febreeze (or any strong perfume scent) would immediately send me into an allergic reaction that severely affects my breathing. So PLEASE keep it on YOUR balcony.

[CrazyMums]

I find it odd that Carnival is so adament that you do not have an iron in your room but they allow you to smoke. I would think that it easier to accidentally start a room fire with a cigarette than with an iron.

 

As a previous poster mentioned, have you ever heard of a fire being started on a cruise ship from a cigarette?

[98Charlie]

Charlie,

You raise a valid concern. I really think it could be remedied though by alternating designated smoking and non-smoking areas and holding a number of cabins as flex, which could be later designated as need arises.

Wouldn't a flex room be, in reality, a smoking room?

 

I suppose that flex rooms would be subject to a deeper cleaning when going from smoking to non. But, to truely satisfy some non smokers, that would have to include a change out of bedspread (normally done only 2 or 3 times a year), drapes, and steam cleaning upholstery.

 

Charlie

[TiaGr]

DreDay:

You said it All I agree with you 100% !!

You can smoke in your room but don't bring an iron!

[CCJack]

Look at the prices that Disney charges (and gets)..they are lots more than carnival. Are the ships nicer, no. Are the ships bigger, no. Is the food better, no. Are they keeping up with the times..... yes...they are marketing to what people want and are willing to pay for.

 

Of course an entire non smoking ship failed with carnival. You would lose all of the family reunions - multi family groups where some smoke and some do not. That was a stupid idea, works for disney but would not work for anyone else.

 

Look at the mainstream lines - RCL. carnival, princess. The first one that figures out the logistics of non smoking rooms - will have a huge marketing advantage.

 

We can go to the moon and clone sheep - someone should be figure out how to get non smokers in non smoking rooms. I don't beleive for a second thatt it cannot be done.