springaussie Posted March 26, 2014 #1351 Share Posted March 26, 2014 The TA would be low yield, but the Panama and trans Pacifics aren't. Check out the prices on the Hawaii - Sydney cruises ;) . There is currently only Radiance doing TPs in 2015 given Rhapsody's redeployment. I believe they would have no problem selling an Explorer TP on good yield. The needed modifications to Explorer are what makes it less likely imho. Anything's possible though. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk The TA might be low yield but the biggest cruise ship thru the Panama Canal will not be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff2802 Posted March 26, 2014 #1352 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I am basing my information on the Explorer of the Seas appearing in Europe ports cruise ship visits until approx 9 October 2015. I am only filling the missing gaps Barcelona 9 October 2015 and Dunedin 23 November 2015. It is possible Royal have used fake names for bookings. Explorer has just replaced Adventure on several Med itins, so if a Panama repo of a Voyager class ship to Australia is on the cards, Adventure is a possibility. We haven't worked out what the plans are, apart from some apparent but unconfirmed Canaries and Portugal itins if I remember correctly. No maintenance is currently scheduled on Adventure to my knowledge though, apart from a propulsion pod that now needs to be fixed. :) Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADflyer Posted March 27, 2014 #1353 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I am basing my information on the Explorer of the Seas appearing in Europe ports cruise ship visits until approx 9 October 2015.I am only filling the missing gaps Barcelona 9 October 2015 and Dunedin 23 November 2015. It is possible Royal have used fake names for bookings. The pdf file I pulled up for Sydney still shows the booking on the 28th Novmeber an overnight for Rhapsody. Does Explorer show up somewhere else? http://www.sydneyports.com.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0003/30396/Passenger_Vessel_Schedule_Final_v294_26_Mar_2014.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff2802 Posted March 27, 2014 #1354 Share Posted March 27, 2014 The pdf file I pulled up for Sydney still shows the booking on the 28th Novmeber an overnight for Rhapsody. Does Explorer show up somewhere else? http://www.sydneyports.com.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0003/30396/Passenger_Vessel_Schedule_Final_v294_26_Mar_2014.pdf Rhapsody's name is being used as a placeholder for another ship. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joandian Posted March 27, 2014 #1355 Share Posted March 27, 2014 The TA might be low yield but the biggest cruise ship thru the Panama Canal will not be! This is providing the new sections of the canal are open because Explorer won't fit in the old locks. We went through the Panama Canal on Infinity in December and she just fits in the current locks and I'm pretty sure she is quite a bit smaller than Explorer. There was still a major amount of work to be done before the new sections open. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUISEBOY305 Posted March 27, 2014 #1356 Share Posted March 27, 2014 (edited) Grandeur now has cruise being loaded. Sailings up until April 2016 are now showing. Dates and itineraries but no pricing. Hoping for other ships as well. that's 5 ships down, 17 more to go. I hope that's not all for the Caribbean deployments this week =| Edited March 27, 2014 by CRUISEBOY305 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUISEBOY305 Posted March 27, 2014 #1357 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Rhapsody's name is being used as a placeholder for another ship. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Good to know Voyager and Radiance will be back down under. I think they mean explore (or possibly another ship) on the Rhapsody dates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff2802 Posted March 27, 2014 #1358 Share Posted March 27, 2014 This is providing the new sections of the canal are open because Explorer won't fit in the old locks. We went through the Panama Canal on Infinity in December and she just fits in the current locks and I'm pretty sure she is quite a bit smaller than Explorer. There was still a major amount of work to be done before the new sections open. J Yes, and there is a recent article on r e u t e r s . c o m saying completion of the explansion is now delayed until at least Dec 2015. Even that timeframe is highly optimistic if the project's track record thus far is any indication. Think we have to assume no Voyager class transits possible until well into 2016. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springaussie Posted March 27, 2014 #1359 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Yes, and there is a recent article on r e u t e r s . c o m saying completion of the explansion is now delayed until at least Dec 2015. Even that timeframe is highly optimistic if the project's track record thus far is any indication. Think we have to assume no Voyager class transits possible until well into 2016 Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk thanks Geoff It is certainly odd with how Dunedin fits in the equation for Explorer if Barcelona 9 October 2015 and Dunedin 23 November 2015 are both correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff2802 Posted March 27, 2014 #1360 Share Posted March 27, 2014 thanks Geoff It is certainly odd with how Dunedin fits in the equation for Explorer if Barcelona 9 October 2015 and Dunedin 23 November 2015 are both correct. Yes. You recently suggested that we might get Adventure instead. Based on known port calls she's only committed as far out as northern summer 2015 (Canaries/Portugal From memory). Would RCI intentionally obfuscate by registering Explorer in Dunedin if they intend to send Adventure? Explorer 45 day repo Barcelona to Dunedin seems workable if a little odd. Entry via Fremantle and scoot across the southern ocean, thereby skipping Darwin, Cairns, Airlie, Brisbane? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish6 Posted March 27, 2014 #1361 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I was really hoping for those Southern Caribbean sailings to be available this week :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff2802 Posted March 27, 2014 #1362 Share Posted March 27, 2014 [quote name=Explorer 45 day repo Barcelona to Dunedin seems workable if a little odd. Entry via Fremantle and scoot across the southern ocean, thereby skipping Darwin, Cairns, Airlie, Brisbane? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk[/quote] Fremantle ports currently showing a 3 Nov Rhapsody placeholder and a 17 Nov Radiance visit. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare printingchick Posted March 27, 2014 #1363 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I was really hoping for those Southern Caribbean sailings to be available this week :( Ditto! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just4kixx Posted March 27, 2014 #1364 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Ditto! That makes three of us. .. :( Sent from my SGH-T889 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springaussie Posted March 27, 2014 #1365 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Fremantle ports currently showing a 3 Nov Rhapsody placeholder and a 17 Nov Radiance visit. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Royal has had that 3 November 2015 booking in Fremantle now for at least 6 months in Rhapsody name. Geoff both of us are keen to know what the repositioning moves are to Australia or Asia but I think we will have to wait and let Royal play the game. Galveston, San Juan, Asia, Australia and the extra UK movements they love to keep secret and send out false leads. They are a company to make $$$ and these games must make money or they would not play them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoopster95 Posted March 27, 2014 #1366 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Yes, and there is a recent article on r e u t e r s . c o m saying completion of the explansion is now delayed until at least Dec 2015. Even that timeframe is highly optimistic if the project's track record thus far is any indication. Think we have to assume no Voyager class transits possible until well into 2016. I was at the locks this past Nov. Had dinner with Capt Srecko Ban of the Vision along side the head administrator of the new locks... I don't think there's no way possible the new locks will be finished in only 2 years.... I give them at least 5 years minimum. Do a search of these boards of the various discussions. We also discussed the ability for bigger ships to come through when finally completed... the new locks wont be the issue (Oasis can fit in them), it's the bridge of Americas the ships cannot fit under. Voyager Class cannot fit under the bridge, and likely not even at low tide. Don't count on any Voyager Class or larger coming through the Panama Canal anytime soon... that's why Mariner had to go around South America just a short 5 years ago in 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillB48 Posted March 27, 2014 #1367 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Yes, and there is a recent article on r e u t e r s . c o m saying completion of the explansion is now delayed until at least Dec 2015. Even that timeframe is highly optimistic if the project's track record thus far is any indication. Think we have to assume no Voyager class transits possible until well into 2016. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk There has been this discussion before concerning the Voyager class and the Panama Canal. Right now there is another problem that has to be"solved" not withstanding the expansion locks opening date. Presently the max air draft that is permitted under the Bridge of Americas is 205' depending on the tide. The Voyager class has an air draft of somewhere around 209'... in an absolute physical sense it is possible for the ship to clear because there is a large swing in the tides. Royal may also be able to trim the air draft inexpensively and the Canal could waive their limits... or a combination of the two to get the ship through the Canal. Looks like there are too many "ifs" before we see the Explorer or similar take the trip Down Under via the Canal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shutterbug63 Posted March 27, 2014 #1368 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Anyone got an educated guess on when they'll release summer itineraries for Quantum and further itineraries for Anthem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUISEBOY305 Posted March 27, 2014 #1369 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I was really hoping for those Southern Caribbean sailings to be available this week :( I'm waiting on S. Caribbean as well out of San Juan as well :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipfriend_max Posted March 27, 2014 #1370 Share Posted March 27, 2014 What about additional Europe this week?? :rolleyes: Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipfriend_max Posted March 27, 2014 #1371 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I'm waiting on S. Caribbean as well out of San Juan as well :( Southern caribbean on SERENADE are already released. Similar to those of LEGEND 2014/15. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRV FAN Posted March 27, 2014 #1372 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Southern caribbean on SERENADE are already released.Similar to those of LEGEND 2014/15. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Yep! And I'm booked!! B2B on Serenade 2/16-3/16!! Corner aft!! Woo Hoo! Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUISEBOY305 Posted March 27, 2014 #1373 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Southern caribbean on SERENADE are already released.Similar to those of LEGEND 2014/15. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Yes I know I'm booked on the 1/25/16 sailing. Still waiting on San Juan dates to come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaritimeR&R Posted March 27, 2014 #1374 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Anyone got an educated guess on when they'll release summer itineraries for Quantum and further itineraries for Anthem? See my thread in Quantum regarding why summer QoS sailings have not yet been announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare printingchick Posted March 27, 2014 #1375 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Still waiting on San Juan dates to come out. Me too! They were supposed to announce last week or this week and this week is almost over. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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