Rare jimbo5544 Posted January 26, 2014 #151 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Let me see if I've got this right. If it is offered on a CCL cruise it is good thing? Just trying to sort out the comparison and keep it apples to apples. When I was a kid I say Frankie Valley and the Four aeasons for free. Sent from my iPad using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted January 26, 2014 #152 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Just trying to sort out the comparison and keep it apples to apples. When I was a kid I say Frankie Valley and the Four Seasons for free. Seeing REO at a fair and on a cruise is totally separate, are you trying to say it's the same? Sent from my iPad using Forums mobile app Sent from my iPad using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzfitter Posted January 26, 2014 #153 Share Posted January 26, 2014 What are you talking about here? Carnival has never done Broadway shows on any of our cruises. They do a poor job of presenting a little Broadway type music, and only a few songs in an entire week cruise. Never a full show. To get that you have to cruise Royal Caribbean. I will pass. If I want to see a broadway show, btw a good one not hairspray, I will go to broadway not the imitation b level junk rccl does. Sent from my iPad using Forums mobile app Let me see if I've got this right. If it is offered on a RCL cruise it is a bad thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted January 26, 2014 #154 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Let me see if I've got this right. If it is offered on a RCL cruise it is a bad thing? Nope, I think all entertainment options are a good thing. My comment was that I prefer (much) broadway over the b level broadway (type) plays offered on rccl. I would not go see hairspray in either case, but def not on a cruise. I think the concert options are far better than imitation broadway plays (on any line)....including rccl. Are you critiquing all my posts? Sent from my iPad using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted January 26, 2014 #155 Share Posted January 26, 2014 The best show we saw onboard any ship was last week on the Liberty of the seas It was Saturday night fever. Your next cruise is on the Oasis at least you are doing something Sarge said he would never do;) I respect Sarge, he knows more on cruising than the vast majority of posters here. While we cruise a fair amount, I envy his cruising lifestyle. We really enjoy Carnival....can you tell? We are trying Oasis for several reasons. There are things that rccl does that we don't particularly like but the ship is worth it for us to do. We also have a son in law who is diamond plus on royal and has sailed with us on Carnival and it is time for a payback. I am sure that we will enjoy it and I will post a review with some comparative thoughts upon our return. Sent from my iPad using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted January 26, 2014 #156 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I won't be booking a cruise because of an on-board concert. I book our family vacations (cruises) out of consideration for ship, itinerary, and over-all cost. IF the cruise I book for my family just happens to have one of these special concerts, I'll probably pay extra for it just because it is a special event and in many cases it could be a once in a life time experience. After all, the venue is smaller and more intimate than in most coliseums/concert halls so the show would be much better in my opinion. However, if the artist or group is not to my liking or taste, I'll just enjoy the extra time in port. I say kudos to Carnival Cruise Lines for coming up with one more option for us guests!! If you're interested, go for it. If not, enjoy the extra time in port or take the time to enjoy the ship when it is not so crowded. You make a good point. It is all about options. They are adapting. Sent from my iPad using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRed93 Posted January 26, 2014 #157 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Makes no difference to me, as we don't do the shorter cruises. If we were to find ourselves in a ship that had it, I might consider if it were a group I could tolerate. I haven't seen a show in the main theatre in a few cruises, as they are not appealing to me anymore, so I could really care less about that venue being used. I probably would enjoy the longer port times. Sent using the Cruise Critic forums app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walty Posted January 26, 2014 #158 Share Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) This is a great idea if Carnival doesn't screw it up too badly while they're going through the learning curve. Of course not everyone will be interested in the concerts just like I'm not interested in the casino, bingo, FTTF or Cheers. It appears Carnival is trying to bring in fans of these acts that are new to cruising and enjoy their favorite artist at a reasonable price in a nice venue. And we all know Carnival could use some new cruisers. They've done a pretty good job selecting acts that represent a wide range of music genres to appeal to a wide range of age demographics. Of course a lot of these acts play at state fairs if you live in "Flyover Country," but so what? Not everyone is close to a state fair and I would much rather see them in a nice comfortable, air-conditioned, intimate theater than a hot, buggy outdoor grandstand or cattle arena. One hit wonders and has beens?? Lady Antebellum is one of the hottest acts in the entire music industry selling out the biggest arenas both in the US and overseas. And they actually write their own music! Getting Lady A to do a concert on a Carnival Ship is a HUGE deal. Their fan club probably has over 250,000 registered members and could probably sellout the entire ship with just Lady A fans. The bottom line is if you're not interested in the concert, just don't book that cruise and those of us who do like live concerts from top artists will be happy to buy the tickets. Edited January 26, 2014 by walty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacruizer Posted January 26, 2014 #159 Share Posted January 26, 2014 This is a great idea if Carnival doesn't screw it up too badly while they're going through the learning curve. Of course not everyone will be interested in the concerts just like I'm not interested in the casino, bingo, FTTF or Cheers. It appears Carnival is trying to bring in fans of these acts that are new to cruising and enjoy their favorite artist at a reasonable price in a nice venue. And we all know Carnival could use some new cruisers. They've done a pretty good job selecting acts that represent a wide range of music genres to appeal to a wide range of age demographics. Of course a lot of these acts play at state fairs if you live in "Flyover Country," but so what? Not everyone is close to a state fair and I would much rather see them in a nice comfortable, air-conditioned, intimate theater than a hot, buggy outdoor grandstand or cattle arena. One hit wonders and has beens?? Lady Antebellum is one of the hottest acts in the entire music industry selling out the biggest arenas both in the US and overseas. And they actually write their own music! Getting Lady A to do a concert on a Carnival Ship is a HUGE deal. Their fan club probably has over 250,000 registered members and could probably sellout the entire ship with just Lady A fans. The bottom line is if you're not interested in the concert, just don't book that cruise and those of us who do like live concerts from top artists will be happy to buy the tickets. Oddly enough, Lady A just played here last week. There was an article in our newspaper that the venue was less than half-full and they even brought in about 3000 fewer people than they did a couple years ago. So not sure they are still that huge and our area is FILLED with country music fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walty Posted January 26, 2014 #160 Share Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) Oddly enough, Lady A just played here last week. There was an article in our newspaper that the venue was less than half-full and they even brought in about 3000 fewer people than they did a couple years ago. So not sure they are still that huge and our area is FILLED with country music fans. That's really odd...The only dates I see since 1/12 are Fargo, ND (1/18), Rapid City, SD (1/19), Denver (1/23), Salt Lake (1/24) and Bozeman, MT (1/25). Which city and date are you referring to and I will look up the actual attendance. Edited January 26, 2014 by walty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walty Posted January 26, 2014 #161 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Are you in Roanoke, VA? The link below is to an article that states, "the cheering near capacity crowd" which was on a Sunday night. http://www.americansongwriter.com/2014/01/lady-antebellum-kip-moore-kacey-musgraves-rock-roanoke/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lace Posted January 26, 2014 #162 Share Posted January 26, 2014 This is a great idea if Carnival doesn't screw it up too badly while they're going through the learning curve. Of course not everyone will be interested in the concerts just like I'm not interested in the casino, bingo, FTTF or Cheers. It appears Carnival is trying to bring in fans of these acts that are new to cruising and enjoy their favorite artist at a reasonable price in a nice venue. And we all know Carnival could use some new cruisers. They've done a pretty good job selecting acts that represent a wide range of music genres to appeal to a wide range of age demographics. Of course a lot of these acts play at state fairs if you live in "Flyover Country," but so what? Not everyone is close to a state fair and I would much rather see them in a nice comfortable, air-conditioned, intimate theater than a hot, buggy outdoor grandstand or cattle arena. One hit wonders and has beens?? Lady Antebellum is one of the hottest acts in the entire music industry selling out the biggest arenas both in the US and overseas. And they actually write their own music! Getting Lady A to do a concert on a Carnival Ship is a HUGE deal. Their fan club probably has over 250,000 registered members and could probably sellout the entire ship with just Lady A fans. The bottom line is if you're not interested in the concert, just don't book that cruise and those of us who do like live concerts from top artists will be happy to buy the tickets. You bring up an interesting conundrum. Suppose an act like Lady A. (so far still a one hit wonder to me) is on a booked solid cruise full of already paid non Lady A. Fans, and the true Lady A. Fans can't book because the ship is already full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walty Posted January 26, 2014 #163 Share Posted January 26, 2014 You bring up an interesting conundrum. Suppose an act like Lady A. (so far still a one hit wonder to me) is on a booked solid cruise full of already paid non Lady A. Fans, and the true Lady A. Fans can't book because the ship is already full. One hit wonder to you?? Wow! How many Grammy Awards do they need to win before they're no longer a "one hit wonder?" They're up to 7 already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacruizer Posted January 26, 2014 #164 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Are you in Roanoke, VA? The link below is to an article that states, "the cheering near capacity crowd" which was on a Sunday night. http://www.americansongwriter.com/2014/01/lady-antebellum-kip-moore-kacey-musgraves-rock-roanoke/ Yes - my numbers were actually a bit off. They were at 4990 in attendance but the venue could have held 7224. Three years ago, they drew 6783. http://www.roanoke.com/arts_and_entertainment/music/reviews/article_6bdd281e-7fcf-11e3-a23e-0019bb30f31a.html My point here isn't intended to be an argument - just that most of these acts, while great musicians, aren't currently the "A" list... otherwise they wouldn't be playing cruise gigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzfitter Posted January 26, 2014 #165 Share Posted January 26, 2014 One hit wonder to you?? Wow! How many Grammy Awards do they need to win before they're no longer a "one hit wonder?" They're up to 7 already. How many songs have they won Grammy awards for, exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbob70 Posted January 26, 2014 #166 Share Posted January 26, 2014 It wouldn't appeal to us, we like the cover bands, lounge acts, and the comedy shows. But to each their own. As long as these cruises are clearly marked so we don't accidently book one, no problem at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walty Posted January 26, 2014 #167 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Yes - my numbers were actually a bit off. They were at 4990 in attendance but the venue could have held 7224. Three years ago, they drew 6783. http://www.roanoke.com/arts_and_entertainment/music/reviews/article_6bdd281e-7fcf-11e3-a23e-0019bb30f31a.html My point here isn't intended to be an argument - just that most of these acts, while great musicians, aren't currently the "A" list... otherwise they wouldn't be playing cruise gigs. I question the accuracy of your bloggers numbers, but it was a Sunday night and a show that was rescheduled from December 12th, but to say they aren't "A" list is completely false. Hot Tickets for January... Lady Antebellum brought nearly 7,000 fans to Huntington Center in Toledo, Ohio, Jan. 11. The Live Nation-promoted show grossed more than $350,000. Next, the group heads to Pepsi Center in Denver, Colo., Jan. 23, and EnergySolutions Arena in Salt Lake City, Jan. 24. http://www.venuestoday.com/news/detail/hot-tickets-jan-21-2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzfitter Posted January 26, 2014 #168 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Nope, I think all entertainment options are a good thing. My comment was that I prefer (much) broadway over the b level broadway (type) plays offered on rccl. I would not go see hairspray in either case, but def not on a cruise. I think the concert options are far better than imitation broadway plays (on any line)....including rccl. Are you critiquing all my posts? Sent from my iPad using Forums mobile app Sorry, for some reason my iPad wouldn't quote all four posts at one time. While, I agree that options are good, I was trying to point out that you seem to only believe this when it concerns CCL. You automatically put down the Broadway type show offered by RCL which it appears you haven't seen on B-way or a cruise ship. I was on Oasis myself and chose to do the flowrider instead of Hairspray, but might have chosen to go to Chicago if I was on Allure. You're not interested in one type of entertainment for your own reasons. Other people have their reasons for not being interested in Carnival Live, such as they feel the acts are past their prime or too expensive ($10 at a state fair as opposed to $20-40 on a cruise). I guess I don't understand how putting down the options on 1 cruise line makes the options on another cruise line any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bm6pm5 Posted January 26, 2014 #169 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I don't think they have any casino's in Mexico. I think they said that the ship casino would be closed while in port. Sent from my iPad using Forums mobile app I was talking about the ships casino in Nassau. It was open while we were in port during the evening. Can't see them losing all of the gambling revenue to try and get people to go to a concert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzfitter Posted January 26, 2014 #170 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I question the accuracy of your bloggers numbers, but it was a Sunday night and a show that was rescheduled from December 12th, but to say they aren't "A" list is completely false.Hot Tickets for January... Lady Antebellum brought nearly 7,000 fans to Huntington Center in Toledo, Ohio, Jan. 11. http://www.venuestoday.com/news/detail/hot-tickets-jan-21-2014 Wow, 7000 fans. You realize Kansas, and REO in their prime sold out 15000- 20000 seat stadiums, right. I guess that is why vacruiser considers Lady A a "b" list act. If at their prime they can only sell 7000 tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted January 26, 2014 #171 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Sorry, for some reason my iPad wouldn't quote all four posts at one time. While, I agree that options are good, I was trying to point out that you seem to only believe this when it concerns CCL. You automatically put down the Broadway type show offered by RCL which it appears you haven't seen on B-way or a cruise ship. I was on Oasis myself and chose to do the flowrider instead of Hairspray, but might have chosen to go to Chicago if I was on Allure. You're not interested in one type of entertainment for your own reasons. Other people have their reasons for not being interested in Carnival Live, such as they feel the acts are past their prime or too expensive ($10 at a state fair as opposed to $20-40 on a cruise). I guess I don't understand how putting down the options on 1 cruise line makes the options on another cruise line any better. I have multi posting issues on my iPad as well. My points were not as against RCCL per se. it was a reply to someone who was saying that the broadway show on royal was superior. My comment was not to me. I echo your comments on Hairspray. I would rather have my teeth cleaned (which I hate). As to the level of the entertainment, I think that a play on a cruise…and to a lessor extent in a touring company is far inferior to me and I would rather go to Broadway (by far). If you (or someone else does not think the concerts are for them, thats fine). Comparing talent level of Lady A, Martina Mcbride, Daughtry, Jennifer Hudson, Chicago (not the musical) to a b level broadway play is what I took omage with. We will be sailing on the Oasis in March, I will asses and come back here and go a review and give my thoughts on entertainment as well when I return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walty Posted January 26, 2014 #172 Share Posted January 26, 2014 How many songs have they won Grammy awards for, exactly? 2010 Won - Best Country Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocals - "I Run To You" 2011 Won - Best Country Album (Also nominated for Best Album of the Year) - "Need You Now" Won - Record of the Year - "Need You Now" Won - Song of the Year - "Need You Now" Won - Best Country Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocals Won - Best Country Song - "Need You Now" 2012 Won - Best Country Album - "Own the Night" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbgd Posted January 26, 2014 #173 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Sorry, for some reason my iPad wouldn't quote all four posts at one time. . I think there is a limit of 3 qoutes Wow, 7000 fans. You realize Kansas, and REO in their prime sold out 15000- 20000 seat stadiums, right. I guess that is why vacruiser considers Lady A a "b" list act. If at their prime they can only sell 7000 tickets. The first time, I saw either of those bands in the 80's, I think there was 30000 plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgiagolfer Posted January 26, 2014 #174 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I was talking about the ships casino in Nassau. It was open while we were in port during the evening. Can't see them losing all of the gambling revenue to try and get people to go to a concert. The casino will open in Nassau, but not Cozumel. As the ship does not sail until 1 am, revenue loss for the casino and CCL that evening. Doubt CCL will make that much off the concerts, as expenses will take a lot of the ticket revenues. While I restate, DW and I are not interested in the concert, I applaud CCL for even trying something different. At least it is not a ship charter, where everything is priced way more than normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walty Posted January 26, 2014 #175 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Wow, 7000 fans. You realize Kansas, and REO in their prime sold out 15000- 20000 seat stadiums, right. I guess that is why vacruiser considers Lady A a "b" list act. If at their prime they can only sell 7000 tickets. LOL! Not in January they didn't. http://www.therichest.com/expensive-lifestyle/entertainment/the-10-artists-with-the-biggest-concert-crowd-in-2012/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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