klfhngr Posted October 5, 2014 #1 Share Posted October 5, 2014 would it be a good thing or bad?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STANCPA44 Posted October 5, 2014 #2 Share Posted October 5, 2014 would it be a good thing or bad?! Never will happen, due to anti trust laws. The US government would not allow that to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tm3750 Posted October 5, 2014 #3 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Really? why is that even on this board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterbilt Driver Posted October 5, 2014 #4 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Never will happen, due to anti trust laws. The US government would not allow that to happen. Not sure if they truly wanted to merge that the US government would try to stop it. However as they are both multi-national company's they could both just relocate to Asia and the US would have no say whatsoever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4cats,1dog Posted October 5, 2014 #5 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Carnival would lower the Royal Standards. Carnival already owns Princess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klfhngr Posted October 5, 2014 Author #6 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Really? why is that even on this board? Because of the prototype ship that was spotted today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCC retired Posted October 5, 2014 #7 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Look what happened when the big airlines merged . Rates are up Fees for changes and baggage were added Service dried up . Don't worry , won't happen to the 2 big players in cruising , Carnival Corp and RCI . The consolidations that made them what they are , happened years ago. Sent from my iPad using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegima Posted October 5, 2014 #8 Share Posted October 5, 2014 (edited) Because of the prototype ship that was spotted today! Or someone took a photo of a carnival ship next to oasis or allure..:rolleyes: Edited October 5, 2014 by thegima Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehfl Posted October 5, 2014 #9 Share Posted October 5, 2014 They were minutes from doing so at one point (see Devils on the Deep Blue Sea: The Dreams, Schemes, and Showdowns That Built America's Cruise-Ship Empires by Kristoffer A. Garin). I think it would have been terrible for the industry at that point, and probably even worse today. Competition is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolloman Posted October 5, 2014 #10 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Although I am sure it is a fantasy of many Carnival fans. It won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzinlady1947 Posted October 5, 2014 #11 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Several years ago, we were on the Enchantment and John and Katrina Blair were CD and AD. They showed a film about the beginnings of Royal Caribbean and at one point Carnival and Royal were linked. Then at some point Royal split and became it's own company. I'm not sure how it all happened, but it was a very interesting film. They have the rights to the film, since they put it together. They had been with Royal almost from the start (at the time they made the film it was 26 yrs.) Don't know where they are now or if they are still in the cruise industry. I sure wish they would show that film on all the ships. It was really great. We found out the Admiral Cruise Line was owned by Royal at one point and we even got some cruise points by being on one of their ships (Emerald Seas). I just called and asked. It was only about 3 or 4 points, but hey, points are points. Gwen :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising89143 Posted October 5, 2014 #12 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Several years ago, we were on the Enchantment and John and Katrina Blair were CD and AD. They showed a film about the beginnings of Royal Caribbean and at one point Carnival and Royal were linked. Then at some point Royal split and became it's own company. I'm not sure how it all happened, but it was a very interesting film. They have the rights to the film, since they put it together. They had been with Royal almost from the start (at the time they made the film it was 26 yrs.) Don't know where they are now or if they are still in the cruise industry. I sure wish they would show that film on all the ships. It was really great. We found out the Admiral Cruise Line was owned by Royal at one point and we even got some cruise points by being on one of their ships (Emerald Seas). I just called and asked. It was only about 3 or 4 points, but hey, points are points. Gwen :) Carnival and RCCL have never been linked. Carnival tried to purchase RCCL and failed. As mentioned above, read the book "Devils on the Deep Blue Sea". The entire story is explained. As others have stated, it won't happen. Thank goodness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SewMuch Posted October 5, 2014 #13 Share Posted October 5, 2014 If Royal and Carnival merged - They'd be called Carnal? Like the "Love Boat" with a twist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denamo Posted October 5, 2014 #14 Share Posted October 5, 2014 If Royal and Carnival merged - They'd be called Carnal? Like the "Love Boat" with a twist :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzinlady1947 Posted October 5, 2014 #15 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Carnival and RCCL have never been linked. Carnival tried to purchase RCCL and failed. If that's the case, then maybe that is the link I remember them talking about. I know they were talking about Carnival and Royal together at some point. Maybe it was in that capacity. Thanks for the information. I'll look up that book. Sounds like an interesting read. Gwen :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising89143 Posted October 5, 2014 #16 Share Posted October 5, 2014 If that's the case, then maybe that is the link I remember them talking about. I know they were talking about Carnival and Royal together at some point. Maybe it was in that capacity. Thanks for the information. I'll look up that book. Sounds like an interesting read. Gwen :) It's a very good book but it shows a different side of the cruise industry. There is no love between RCCL and Carnival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanrocko Posted October 6, 2014 #17 Share Posted October 6, 2014 It will never happen. Royal Caribbean will merge with Norwegian like in 5-10 years. :eek: :p :rolleyes: :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzfitter Posted October 6, 2014 #18 Share Posted October 6, 2014 would it be a good thing or bad?! Try posting this on the Carnival board. I'd love to read their responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exarkkun Posted October 6, 2014 #19 Share Posted October 6, 2014 They were minutes from doing so at one point (see Devils on the Deep Blue Sea: The Dreams, Schemes, and Showdowns That Built America's Cruise-Ship Empires by Kristoffer A. Garin). I think it would have been terrible for the industry at that point, and probably even worse today. Competition is a good thing. I just finished reading that for the second time, and on my first cruise no less. If Carnival had succeeded in purchasing the then-fledgling Royal Caribbean, I wonder what other line might have rose to power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StingBeanz Posted October 6, 2014 #20 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Carnival would lower the Royal Standards. Carnival already owns Princess. I haven't noticed Carnival changing HAL Standards, which I think are a little bit higher then Royal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted October 6, 2014 #21 Share Posted October 6, 2014 If that's the case, then maybe that is the link I remember them talking about. I know they were talking about Carnival and Royal together at some point. Maybe it was in that capacity. Thanks for the information. I'll look up that book. Sounds like an interesting read. Gwen :) You may have been thinking of the link between NCL and Carnival. NCL was founded by Knut Kloster and Ted Arison. Arison then left to start Carnival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted October 6, 2014 #22 Share Posted October 6, 2014 I haven't noticed Carnival changing HAL Standards, which I think are a little bit higher then Royal. Not to forget Seabourne and Cunard. Carnival Corp.is the same as RCCL. Many different brands and many different standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzinlady1947 Posted October 6, 2014 #23 Share Posted October 6, 2014 You may have been thinking of the link between NCL and Carnival. NCL was founded by Knut Kloster and Ted Arison. Arison then left to start Carnival. No, it was a documentary about the beginning of Royal Caribbean and there was a connection or mention about Carnival being involved somehow. Probably what "cruisingator2" mentioned. Carnival wanting to purchase Royal. Gwen :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peacemkr59 Posted October 6, 2014 #24 Share Posted October 6, 2014 would it be a good thing or bad?! Nice picture Klfhngr...see you soon on the Allure!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisko Posted October 6, 2014 #25 Share Posted October 6, 2014 It would be bad for cruisers as there would be less competition and higher prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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