Wine-O Posted July 13, 2015 #1176 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Don't worry about what the others are wearing. Wear what you want to wear, and enjoy. Never lower your standards to fit the standards of others. My tux will be there, and I will enjoy wearing it. Styles come and go, but class never changes. Welcome to Cruise Critic. Wear what you want? :confused: That's not the right message to send to someone concerning Formal Night. Formal Night is just that -- it's Formal. I certainly understand that not everyone has formal wear, but one should at least attempt to dress up to a minimum of a coat & tie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkjretired Posted July 13, 2015 #1177 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Welcome to Cruise Critic. Wear what you want? :confused: That's not the right message to send to someone concerning Formal Night. Formal Night is just that -- it's Formal. I certainly understand that not everyone has formal wear, but one should at least attempt to dress up to a minimum of a coat & tie. Correct, when someone tells others to wear what they want, they don't realize that by doing so they might as well be telling them, you might not be allowed into some venues. I saw it happen five weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twin123185 Posted July 13, 2015 #1178 Share Posted July 13, 2015 My first Celebrity cruise in 2000 every man wore at least a jacket EVERY night. Formal night we added a tie. Times sure have changed. My QE2 transatlantic in 1973 every night was formal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Cruise Junky Posted July 13, 2015 #1179 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Welcome to Cruise Critic. Wear what you want? :confused: That's not the right message to send to someone concerning Formal Night. Formal Night is just that -- it's Formal. I certainly understand that not everyone has formal wear, but one should at least attempt to dress up to a minimum of a coat & tie. They were encouraging someone who wanted to dress formal but were concerned about others not being so dressed up, so in this case wear what you want was quite appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvit! Posted July 13, 2015 #1180 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Just back today from Celebrity Summit Bermuda cruise. The dress was all over the map on both casual and formal nights. I asked the MDR front desk/reservationist about the ultra casual dress I was seeing since it did not conform to the signs posted. Saara indicated that they (dont know if it is sip or Celebrity wide) was trying out a more relaxed dress code but it wasnt posted yet because too many people were complaining about not being able to wear jeans in the dining room. I saw t-shirts and shorts in the dining room by adults (not many but enough) as well many nights. Percentage-wise, I would say about 5-10% were wearing shorts or jeans at dinner. It was so odd as I expected that on NCL (as I had experienced it 6 months ago on Breakaway) but not on Celebrity (my first time on that line). Considering taking our first Celebrity cruise on the Summit. My husband wears a dress shirt and tie, no jacket, on formal night as do most of the men cruising out of Galveston, a 40 minute drive for us. I'm going to have a hard enough time convincing him to fly to San Juan and if he has to bring a jacket it might be a deal breaker. Is there any chance we will be turned away from the dining room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkjretired Posted July 13, 2015 #1181 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Considering taking our first Celebrity cruise on the Summit. My husband wears a dress shirt and tie, no jacket, on formal night as do most of the men cruising out of Galveston, a 40 minute drive for us. I'm going to have a hard enough time convincing him to fly to San Juan and if he has to bring a jacket it might be a deal breaker. Is there any chance we will be turned away from the dining room? Its more likely they will offer to give him a jacket which he doesn't have to wear, just put on the back of his chair. I did however see a couple of men turned away without a jacket last month on Summit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoppyandNana Posted July 13, 2015 #1182 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Its more likely they will offer to give him a jacket which he doesn't have to wear, just put on the back of his chair. I did however see a couple of men turned away without a jacket last month on Summit. All up to the maitre 'd. We were on the Summit June 21st to Bermuda. On a non formal night a guy came in wearing shorts, ratty ones, sleeveless tee shirt and a ball cap worn backwards. The two "suits" standing by the door didn't say anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldesq Posted July 13, 2015 #1183 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Considering taking our first Celebrity cruise on the Summit. My husband wears a dress shirt and tie, no jacket, on formal night as do most of the men cruising out of Galveston, a 40 minute drive for us. I'm going to have a hard enough time convincing him to fly to San Juan and if he has to bring a jacket it might be a deal breaker. Is there any chance we will be turned away from the dining room? No chance he will be turned away. Wearing a tie will help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Hampshire Posted July 14, 2015 #1184 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Its more likely they will offer to give him a jacket which he doesn't have to wear, just put on the back of his chair. I did however see a couple of men turned away without a jacket last month on Summit. I haven't seen loaner jackets given out in a number of years. On our June 7 Summit cruise there were people in Select Dining on a formal night in shorts. No one stopped them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkjretired Posted July 14, 2015 #1185 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I haven't seen loaner jackets given out in a number of years. On our June 7 Summit cruise there were people in Select Dining on a formal night in shorts. No one stopped them. The week before in Select Dining on the Summit they were giving out loaner jackets....I always laugh because most people don't put them on, just place them over their seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shot2bits Posted July 15, 2015 #1186 Share Posted July 15, 2015 It may be a British thing, but I am taking a DJ and Mrs S2B intends to dress up for the formal nights on our western med, 30th August. If we are the odd ones out, so be it. It's my cruise and I have paid for the privilege! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted July 15, 2015 #1187 Share Posted July 15, 2015 It may be a British thing, but I am taking a DJ and Mrs S2B intends to dress up for the formal nights on our western med, 30th August. If we are the odd ones out, so be it. It's my cruise and I have paid for the privilege! Nope not just British. We'll do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debbie1573 Posted July 15, 2015 #1188 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Can my husband wear a lounge suit rather than a dinner suit on formal nights in the MDR ?? We don't really want to go to the expense of buying a dinner suit that he may never wear again. :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoppyandNana Posted July 15, 2015 #1189 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Can my husband wear a lounge suit rather than a dinner suit on formal nights in the MDR ?? We don't really want to go to the expense of buying a dinner suit that he may never wear again. :confused: You mean a leisure suit circa 1968? Don't forget the shirt collar goes on the outside of the jacket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanb41 Posted July 15, 2015 #1190 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Can my husband wear a lounge suit rather than a dinner suit on formal nights in the MDR ?? We don't really want to go to the expense of buying a dinner suit that he may never wear again. :confused: Yes he can with or without a tie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6502programmer Posted July 15, 2015 #1191 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Can my husband wear a lounge suit rather than a dinner suit on formal nights in the MDR ?? A lounge suit, as in a dark business suit, is perfectly acceptable. While the official attire guidance says nothing about a tie, most reasonable folks assume that if you're going to put on a suit, appropriate neckwear completes the outfit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR_T Posted July 15, 2015 #1192 Share Posted July 15, 2015 I've asked on my last 4 celebrity cruises if a tie was required on formal nights in the mdr and all have said no but a jacket is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted July 15, 2015 #1193 Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) The week before in Select Dining on the Summit they were giving out loaner jackets....I always laugh because most people don't put them on, just place them over their seat. If Celebrity would just place jackets over the back of the chairs in the MDR, this thread could be closed. Edited July 15, 2015 by RocketMan275 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bEwAbG Posted July 15, 2015 #1194 Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) Wearing a tie is a matter of preference, as stated a gazillion times in this thread alone. I think Celebrity would be better off opening one of the speciality restaurants for formal night and letting those who want to wear tuxes and gowns (and even mandate ties with the tuxes!) have a little party on their own. I'm not opposed to dressing up as it warrants but a lot of people these days don't think that dressing up is something you should have to do on vacay. ETA: I think fewer and fewer people are really dressing up these days, which is why I advocate a smaller affair. Edited July 15, 2015 by bEwAbG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6502programmer Posted July 15, 2015 #1195 Share Posted July 15, 2015 I've asked on my last 4 celebrity cruises if a tie was required on formal nights in the mdr and all have said no but a jacket is... You are indeed correct, it is not required. The policy doesn't say socks--or shoes even--are required, as long as one isn't wearing flip flops. I could wear sandals and a ratty old ball cap with my tux and still be following policy. Folks need to stop worrying about what they can get away with and what is just this side of acceptable, etc, and instead consider meaning and intent. No, ties are not required. They are, however, a typical accoutrement to a suit, tuxedo, dinner jacket, or nearly* anything else a well-dressed gentleman is wearing. They want people to be dress to impress. If that's not your thing, there are plenty of venues to accommodate you. * some military dress uniforms lack neckwear, which in no way takes away from their appropriateness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patty1955 Posted July 15, 2015 #1196 Share Posted July 15, 2015 I'm not opposed to dressing up as it warrants but a lot of people these days don't think that dressing up is something you should have to do on vacay. Personally, I don't think I should have to dress at all on vacation, but I'll do you all the curtsey of putting on something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgags47 Posted July 15, 2015 #1197 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Folks need to stop worrying about what they can get away with and what is just this side of acceptable, etc, and instead consider meaning and intent. No, ties are not required. They are, however, a typical accoutrement to a suit, tuxedo, dinner jacket, or nearly* anything else a well-dressed gentleman is wearing. They want people to be dress to impress. If that's not your thing, there are plenty of venues to accommodate you. Yes! Thank you! If you don't want to dress up on formal night, feel free to go to any of the other choices for dinner other than the MDR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bEwAbG Posted July 15, 2015 #1198 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Folks need to stop worrying about what they can get away with and what is just this side of acceptable, etc, and instead consider meaning and intent. No, ties are not required. They are, however, a typical accoutrement to a suit, tuxedo, dinner jacket, or nearly* anything else a well-dressed gentleman is wearing. They want people to be dress to impress. If that's not your thing, there are plenty of venues to accommodate you. This is a decidedly out-dated mode of thinking. Formal wear etiquette was reinvented in the 1970s and no longer hews to any specific convention. Unless the invitation specifies classic black tie, then you're allowing all sorts of interpretations, including the use of no tie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patty1955 Posted July 15, 2015 #1199 Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) This is a decidedly out-dated mode of thinking. Formal wear etiquette was reinvented in the 1970s and no longer hews to any specific convention. Unless the invitation specifies classic black tie, then you're allowing all sorts of interpretations, including the use of no tie. Interpreting what they mean by "formal attire" seems to be the problem. To some, it means a tuxedo, to others, it seems to mean putting on whatever they want. I think most of us agree that formal attire includes some type of tie. Edited July 15, 2015 by patty1955 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithm Posted July 15, 2015 #1200 Share Posted July 15, 2015 You are indeed correct, it is not required. The policy doesn't say socks--or shoes even--are required, as long as one isn't wearing flip flops. I could wear sandals and a ratty old ball cap with my tux and still be following policy. Folks need to stop worrying about what they can get away with and what is just this side of acceptable, etc, and instead consider meaning and intent. No, ties are not required. They are, however, a typical accoutrement to a suit, tuxedo, dinner jacket, or nearly* anything else a well-dressed gentleman is wearing. They want people to be dress to impress. If that's not your thing, there are plenty of venues to accommodate you. * some military dress uniforms lack neckwear, which in no way takes away from their appropriateness They'd make you remove the hat when entering the MDR. It's hapened to me, but I was wearing a fedora. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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