yj_eugene Posted March 8, 2015 #1126 Share Posted March 8, 2015 It will be certainly be non-revenue. I don't think any of the 'ABC' ports can handle Oasis. What about Cartagena? That also qualifies as a distant foreign port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topo Gigio Posted March 8, 2015 #1127 Share Posted March 8, 2015 It will be certainly be non-revenue. I don't think any of the 'ABC' ports can handle Oasis. Curacao for sure can at the Mega Pier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3dog Posted March 8, 2015 #1128 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Latest for OA is a 11-4-2016 arriving at FLL at 6:15 AM from a shortened Western. FR's last PC cruise is Oct. 30 - Nov. 4 and then FLL on Nov. 5 to do a one week western with the real 8 day eastern/6 day western starting on 11-12-2016. I think you have identified how they are not going to violate the PVSA: unload pax in PC on the 4th, sail without pax overnight to PE, and start a new cruise on the 5th. Could potentially do the inverse for OA. Not on Oasis class ships in the Caribbean... more $$ when people are on-board. Further, they would have to move faster to get to ports which costs fuel $$. I suspect it is less of keeping pax onboard, but more likely driven by that is all that they can visit on a weekly itinerary out of Fl (as suggested by the second sentence). Keep in mind that most pax use ships-sponsored excursions, and the line takes a cut from those without having to burn fuel moving the ship (remember, profit is about some combination of increased revenues and decreased costs, so a profit can be made even though onboard sales are lower). Curacao for sure can at the Mega Pier. Bonaire as well. And if Aruba dredged their channel just a bit, they could take OA also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keasel Posted March 8, 2015 #1129 Share Posted March 8, 2015 What's everyone's opinion of the 9 night Grandeur Bermuda and Bahamas? Itinerary: Baltimore Sea Bermuda - Arrive 2pm Bermuda - Depart 3pm Sea Nassau - 1pm-11:59pm CocoCay - 8-5pm Sea Sea Baltimore Opinions? I'm not a big fan of the arrival and departure times. I'd almost prefer one day only in Bermuda from 7am to 7pm to the above. Also, the 1pm to midnight in Nassau isn't the best schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave85 Posted March 8, 2015 #1130 Share Posted March 8, 2015 What's everyone's opinion of the 9 night Grandeur Bermuda and Bahamas? Itinerary: Baltimore Sea Bermuda - Arrive 2pm Bermuda - Depart 3pm Sea Nassau - 1pm-11:59pm CocoCay - 8-5pm Sea Sea Baltimore Opinions? I hate to be negative, but I think this is an extremely lousy 9 night itinerary. How come the 9 nights from Bayonne can actually get down into the Caribbean but the 9-night from Baltimore cannot? Seems like a cheap fuel saving move, but that's just my $.02. Please let me know if I'm missing something. I live in NYC and would not take this same itinerary out of Bayonne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADflyer Posted March 8, 2015 #1131 Share Posted March 8, 2015 As far as deployment is concerned, it is important to remember that Oasis is leaving PE to make room for the arrival of Harmony and not to be 'replaced' by Freedom. Freedom is coming down to do 6 night and 8 night sailings similar to what Indy and then Navigator will have done from PE. Freedom will most likely sail from Terminal 25 or 26 at PE. Harmony of the Seas is currently scheduled for a 13 day TA from Barcelona leaving on October 23rd 2016 and will take Oasis place on Saturday, November 5th 2016. Port schedules currently indicate the following itinerary for Harmony's first TA. 23 Oct Barcelona 24 Oct Palma de Mallorca 25 Oct Cartagena, Spain 26 Oct Gibraltar 27 Oct to 4 Nov, 9 sea days 5 Nov arrival at PE Harmony is then the PE Saturday ship and Allure then remains the PE Sunday ship. The Oasis final 6 night sailing is necessary so that Oasis Terminal 18 is open for the Harmony arrival on the 5th. RCI could just send the ship overnight to PC and begin Sat. sailings from PC also on the 5th of November and put her on the 7 night sailings directly. RCI appear to be doing this with Enchantment when she is transferred to Miami and they just did 3, 3 day sailings to then get the ship back on the 3/4 schedule from PC. The ship just sails down from PC without passengers to Miami and does 2 consecutive 3 night sailings to get back on schedule from Miami on May 3rd and May 6th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall-Cruiser Posted March 8, 2015 #1132 Share Posted March 8, 2015 (edited) As far as deployment is concerned, it is important to remember that Oasis is leaving PE to make room for the arrival of Harmony and not to be 'replaced' by Freedom. Freedom is coming down to do 6 night and 8 night sailings similar to what Indy and then Navigator will have done from PE. Freedom will most likely sail from Terminal 25 or 26 at PE. Harmony of the Seas is currently scheduled for a 13 day TA from Barcelona leaving on October 23rd 2016 and will take Oasis place on Saturday, November 5th 2016. Port schedules currently indicate the following itinerary for Harmony's first TA. 23 Oct Barcelona 24 Oct Palma de Mallorca 25 Oct Cartagena, Spain 26 Oct Gibraltar 27 Oct to 4 Nov, 9 sea days 5 Nov arrival at PE Harmony is then the PE Saturday ship and Allure then remains the PE Sunday ship. The Oasis final 6 night sailing is necessary so that Oasis Terminal 18 is open for the Harmony arrival on the 5th. RCI could just send the ship overnight to PC and begin Sat. sailings from PC also on the 5th of November and put her on the 7 night sailings directly. RCI appear to be doing this with Enchantment when she is transferred to Miami and they just did 3, 3 day sailings to then get the ship back on the 3/4 schedule from PC. The ship just sails down from PC without passengers to Miami and does 2 consecutive 3 night sailings to get back on schedule from Miami on May 3rd and May 6th. Very good info on how the repositioning may go. Thanks. I wonder during that weekend if the three Oais class ships will meet at sea somewhere for a photo. I recall they did a similar move when Allure started with Oasis and exchanged some sort of gift or something. Edited March 8, 2015 by Tall-Cruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmy Posted March 8, 2015 #1133 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I wonder during that weekend if the three Oais class ships will meet at sea somewhere for an photo. I recall they did a similar move when Allure started with Oasis. I like that idea :) I would have thought they might want to showcase Harmony to the South Florida travel agents and press when she arrives and perhaps not have a revenue sailing directly after she arrives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springaussie Posted March 8, 2015 #1134 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I like that idea :) I would have thought they might want to showcase Harmony to the South Florida travel agents and press when she arrives and perhaps not have a revenue sailing directly after she arrives. I thought Emmy they may have wanted to get a photo of the 3 together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADflyer Posted March 8, 2015 #1135 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I like that idea :) I would have thought they might want to showcase Harmony to the South Florida travel agents and press when she arrives and perhaps not have a revenue sailing directly after she arrives. As the sailing is not deployed but booked with ports, they could still take it down from a 13 night TA to say an 11 night and arrive on the Thursday prior if they felt necessary for PR purposes. As she will have had an entire season in Europe, I think they may just put her into service and can have events onboard as usual during the port hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elizanessie Posted March 8, 2015 #1136 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Harmony of the Seas is currently scheduled for a 13 day TA from Barcelona leaving on October 23rd 2016 and will take Oasis place on Saturday, November 5th 2016. Port schedules currently indicate the following itinerary for Harmony's first TA. 23 Oct Barcelona 24 Oct Palma de Mallorca 25 Oct Cartagena, Spain 26 Oct Gibraltar 27 Oct to 4 Nov, 9 sea days 5 Nov arrival at PE Harmony is then the PE Saturday ship and Allure then remains the PE Sunday ship. Love the sound of this TA ...haven't been to Gib in years. So Brad...which sailing are you thinking of doing ...the Inaugural from Barcelona or the TA ? It would be great to chat with you some more as we didnt get a lot of time on QN to chat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfTheSeasCruiser Posted March 8, 2015 #1137 Share Posted March 8, 2015 (edited) I hate to be negative, but I think this is an extremely lousy 9 night itinerary. How come the 9 nights from Bayonne can actually get down into the Caribbean but the 9-night from Baltimore cannot? Seems like a cheap fuel saving move, but that's just my $.02. Please let me know if I'm missing something. I live in NYC and would not take this same itinerary out of Bayonne. I agree. I also hate to be negative, but I put this out there for opinions because I don't think it's a very good replacement for 7 night Bermuda runs. Edited March 8, 2015 by OfTheSeasCruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted March 8, 2015 #1138 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Love the sound of this TA ...haven't been to Gib in years.So Brad...which sailing are you thinking of doing ...the Inaugural from Barcelona or the TA ? It would be great to chat with you some more as we didnt get a lot of time on QN to chat. You are killing me, didn't you absolutely blast the inaugural on quantum? Why put yourself through that again. :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowardK Posted March 8, 2015 #1139 Share Posted March 8, 2015 What date do booking start for the June/July '16 Anthems? I like how the 9 day looks as it would be nice to get to San Juan and St Marteen without flying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave85 Posted March 8, 2015 #1140 Share Posted March 8, 2015 What date do booking start for the June/July '16 Anthems? I like how the 9 day looks as it would be nice to get to San Juan and St Marteen without flying. I think it's later this week actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaylemh Posted March 8, 2015 #1141 Share Posted March 8, 2015 (edited) I never saw Boston with Bermuda from Bayonne. I wish they just made this a 3 day in Bermuda. Anthem Of The Seas Depart: 04:00 PM 05/14/2016 Bayonne (Cape Liberty Cruise Port), New Jersey Anthem Of The Seas 05/15/2016 At Sea Anthem Of The Seas Arrive: 09:00 AM 05/16/2016 King's Wharf, Bermuda Anthem Of The Seas Depart: 05:00 PM 05/17/2016 King's Wharf, Bermuda Anthem Of The Seas 05/18/2016 At Sea Anthem Of The Seas 09:00 AM - 09:00 PM 05/19/2016 Boston, Massachusetts Anthem Of The Seas 05/20/2016 At Sea Anthem Of The Seas Arrive: 07:00 AM 05/21/2016 Bayonne (Cape Liberty Cruise Port), New Jersey Edited March 8, 2015 by gaylemh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeck Posted March 8, 2015 #1142 Share Posted March 8, 2015 What date do booking start for the June/July '16 Anthems? I like how the 9 day looks as it would be nice to get to San Juan and St Marteen without flying. Wed 11th it all kicks off. Keep watching here and the Royal web site and a phone by your side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave85 Posted March 8, 2015 #1143 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I never saw Boston with Bermuda from Bayonne. I wish they just made this a 3 day in Bermuda. Anthem Of The Seas Depart: 04:00 PM 05/14/2016 Bayonne (Cape Liberty Cruise Port), New Jersey Anthem Of The Seas 05/15/2016 At Sea Anthem Of The Seas Arrive: 09:00 AM 05/16/2016 King's Wharf, Bermuda Anthem Of The Seas Depart: 05:00 PM 05/17/2016 King's Wharf, Bermuda Anthem Of The Seas 05/18/2016 At Sea Anthem Of The Seas 09:00 AM - 09:00 PM 05/19/2016 Boston, Massachusetts Anthem Of The Seas 05/20/2016 At Sea Anthem Of The Seas Arrive: 07:00 AM 05/21/2016 Bayonne (Cape Liberty Cruise Port), New Jersey That is a really bizarre itinerary! The only thing I can think of is that Anthem needed to be out of Bermuda for some reason -- probably to make room for another ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elizanessie Posted March 8, 2015 #1144 Share Posted March 8, 2015 You are killing me, didn't you absolutely blast the inaugural on quantum? Why put yourself through that again. :confused: I have done the Maiden & Inaugurals of Oasis & Allure and had a fabulous time on them :D..Quantum Maiden was a whole different ball game. :( I wouldn't book another cruise on Quantum class but I love the Oasis Class ships and really excited about Harmony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaylemh Posted March 8, 2015 #1145 Share Posted March 8, 2015 That is a really bizarre itinerary! The only thing I can think of is that Anthem needed to be out of Bermuda for some reason -- probably to make room for another ship. I checked Celebrity Summit and Grandeur for 5/18 and neither of them are there. I don't know who else uses that pier. I'm still wondering if it's an error. We'll see on the 11th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADflyer Posted March 8, 2015 #1146 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Love the sound of this TA ...haven't been to Gib in years.So Brad...which sailing are you thinking of doing ...the Inaugural from Barcelona or the TA ? It would be great to chat with you some more as we didnt get a lot of time on QN to chat. Liz, with all the projects I have been getting recently it is going to be difficult to plan so far in advance. I was working in Florida this past week and it was so difficult seeing Oasis from my gate at the FLL airport yesterday and not being able to cruise since Quantum. I am hoping that they might even have a Harmony pre-inaugural. I really like those short sailings actually when they are available. I was working in France a few weeks ago and am actually booked there in April 2016 again and would like them to offer a 4 or 5 day sailing when they move the ship over to Barcelona, but that is wishful thinking. If I was seriously considering one of those two though, I would do the TA as I really enjoy re-positioning cruises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruzerci Posted March 9, 2015 #1147 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I'm excited to see Costa Maya added back to some Caribbean itineraries on Freedom and Liberty. We loved Costa Maya and haven't been able to find many sailings to there since 2006 or 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave85 Posted March 9, 2015 #1148 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I checked Celebrity Summit and Grandeur for 5/18 and neither of them are there. I don't know who else uses that pier. I'm still wondering if it's an error. We'll see on the 11th. Indeed. Did you check NCL? On of their ships could have a reservation for that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyCampers3 Posted March 9, 2015 #1149 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I hate to be negative, but I think this is an extremely lousy 9 night itinerary. How come the 9 nights from Bayonne can actually get down into the Caribbean but the 9-night from Baltimore cannot? Seems like a cheap fuel saving move, but that's just my $.02. Please let me know if I'm missing something. I live in NYC and would not take this same itinerary out of Bayonne. Couldn't. Agree. More. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyntonBeth Posted March 9, 2015 #1150 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Does anybody have any info regarding Harmony immediately before the Oct 23 crossing? I cannot seem to find any ports scheduled but some must be because it's not the beginning of the deployment. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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