Deployment Schedule 2016-2017. Let the guessing begin

[DutchCruiseFan]

Spleandor replacing Majesty would be joke, smaller ship with no appeal.

 

I think more appeal then Majesty.

[OfTheSeasCruiser]

What you are suggesting then (see highlighted red area) is that two ships would be based in Miami for Royal....a Voyager class ship to replace Her Majesty and move Enchantment to Miami to do 3/4 day ititneraries keeping Key West as a stop. Therefore you are saying that the Voyager class ship replacing Her Majesty would also be doing 3/4 day itineraries -- just without Key West as a port stop. Somehow I would doubt that Royal would have 2 ships doing 3/4 day itineraries out of Miami.

 

Or am I reading what you meant incorrectly?

 

I believe Hoopster meant that Enchantment would move to Miami to do the Key West itinerary, and a Voyager Class ship would go to PC and just do Nassau/CocoCay.

[OfTheSeasCruiser]

Vision of the Seas was just re-deployed in the past week to Europe, showing up at Riviera Ports, Venice and Kusadasi and her transatlantic was just booked yesterday with a call in Key West, Funchal and Malaga on her way to Barcelona.

 

A port agent calendar from Key West has indicated that Vision was the intended replacement for Majesty at the port of Miami.

 

http://www.calendarwiz.com/calendars/calendar.php?month=5&day=12&year=2016&crd=caribenautical&PHPSESSID=b9df65d7f42c76d02b80fd1c7a3d0fa7

 

They actually have booked a Miami ship past normal deployment and have the slot held until December of 2017.

 

While I am happy they had planned to leave a ship at Miami, the port calls have not yet been shifted to another ship.

 

If they have decided to bring Splendour over to replace Vision at Miami is still unclear.

 

Splendour was one of the first ships that RCI revitalized in the 'Now our best ship is every ship' renovations.

http://www.creative.rccl.com/Sales/Royal/General_Info/Flyers/12028421_Revit_QuickReference_Guide.pdf

 

Could it be that the decision was swayed by Splendour's success in the Brazilian and Latin American market along with having a Romero Britto Gallery onboard?

 

http://www.royalcaribbean.com/connect/romero-britto-and-royal-caribbean-a-true-work-of-art/

 

Brilliance will also call on Key West in November on her return TA and then every other Saturday throughout the Tampa home port season.

 

The only problem I see with replacing Majesty with Splendour is the fact that Majesty has a larger capacity.

[kruzerci]

The only problem I see with replacing Majesty with Splendour is the fact that Majesty has a larger capacity.

 

That's exactly why I do see them replacing Majesty with Splendor.

 

Majesty last minute deals are almost always hitting rock bottom prices. With a slightly smaller ship that has more amenities than Majesty does, they could likely end that trend of bottoming out prices to fill the ship by simple supply and demand.

[OfTheSeasCruiser]

That's exactly why I do see them replacing Majesty with Splendor.

 

Majesty last minute deals are almost always hitting rock bottom prices. With a slightly smaller ship that has more amenities than Majesty does, they could likely end that trend of bottoming out prices to fill the ship by simple supply and demand.

 

Good point, I don't follow Majesty's pricing, so I wasn't really aware of that.

[kruzerci]

I think more appeal then Majesty.

 

Absolutely, Majesty has almost no appeal at this point compared to the rest of the fleet and the competiton. She's been outdated for ten years and has almost none of the features that modern cruise ships do (larger cabins, specialty dining, balcony staterooms, concierge, adults only pools, etc.)

 

Splendour isn't larger than Majesty, but she has all of the above and a more modern design.

[MADflyer]

The only problem I see with replacing Majesty with Splendour is the fact that Majesty has a larger capacity.

 

Not promoting the idea, just reporting. If Vision was planned she had capacity of 2514. Splendour has a capacity of just 2074 currently.

 

It could always be a three part transfer with Splendour freeing up the ship being sent to Miami.

 

Splendour could take Harwich, for instance, and free up the ship they were going to send there, if any.

[OfTheSeasCruiser]

Not promoting the idea, just reporting. If Vision was planned she had capacity of 2514. Splendour has a capacity of just 2074 currently.

 

It could always be a three part transfer with Splendour freeing up the ship being sent to Miami.

 

Splendour could take Harwich, for instance, and free up the ship they were going to send there, if any.

 

I'm not promoting or against the idea either, I was just pointing out the problem that I saw.

 

Good point about a three part transfer. Maybe Enchantment to Miami (w/ more capacity) and Splendour to PC. Just guessing here...

[MADflyer]

That's exactly why I do see them replacing Majesty with Splendor.

 

Majesty last minute deals are almost always hitting rock bottom prices. With a slightly smaller ship that has more amenities than Majesty does, they could likely end that trend of bottoming out prices to fill the ship by simple supply and demand.

 

While I was very impressed with Majesty and she is a very well run ship, Splendour or any of the options will give RCI many more revenue options.

 

The Splendour public rooms have the following capacities: *Revenue centers

 

Public Rooms Capacity

King & I Dining Room 991

Windjammer Café 550

Chops Grille 52

Izumi 38

Chef's Table 12

Park Café 42

Izumi 38 Boardwalk Dog House 28

Latte'tudes 12

42nd Street Theater 802

Top Hat Lounge 338

Casino Royale 240

 

Public Rooms Capacity

Schooner Bar 104

Viking Crown Lounge/Nightclub 67

R Bar 33 Diamond Club Lounge 35

Concierge Lounge 35

Britto Gallery

Adventure Ocean Youth Area 40

Royal Babies & Tots Nursery 8

Optix Teen Disco 30

Conference Center 106

 

 

Compared to Majesty

 

Johnny Rockets 72

Compass Deli 52

Casino Royale 302

A Chorus Line 1,027

 

Public Rooms Capacity

Spectrum Lounge 257

Viking Crown Lounge 229

Schooner Bar 142

Boleros 257

Latte'tudes 26 Adventure Ocean 83

Fuel Nightclub/The Living Room 40

The Back Deck 44

Conference Center 239

[kruzerci]

I'm not promoting or against the idea either, I was just pointing out the problem that I saw.

 

Good point about a three part transfer. Maybe Enchantment to Miami (w/ more capacity) and Splendour to PC. Just guessing here...

 

That's a good point.

 

I see them putting the ship with larger capacity in Port Canaveral, though, due to the more central location (driving distance) to several other states, the attraction of Orlando theme parks, and the slightly higher prices the PC ships (Monarch and Enchantment) have usually commanded over the Majesty.

[OfTheSeasCruiser]

While I was very impressed with Majesty and she is a very well run ship, Splendour or any of the options will give RCI many more revenue options.

 

The Splendour public rooms have the following capacities: *Revenue centers

 

Public Rooms Capacity

King & I Dining Room 991

Windjammer Café 550

Chops Grille 52

Izumi 38

Chef's Table 12

Park Café 42

Izumi 38 Boardwalk Dog House 28

Latte'tudes 12

42nd Street Theater 802

Top Hat Lounge 338

Casino Royale 240

 

Public Rooms Capacity

Schooner Bar 104

Viking Crown Lounge/Nightclub 67

R Bar 33 Diamond Club Lounge 35

Concierge Lounge 35

Britto Gallery

Adventure Ocean Youth Area 40

Royal Babies & Tots Nursery 8

Optix Teen Disco 30

Conference Center 106

 

 

Compared to Majesty

 

Johnny Rockets 72

Compass Deli 52

Casino Royale 302

A Chorus Line 1,027

 

Public Rooms Capacity

Spectrum Lounge 257

Viking Crown Lounge 229

Schooner Bar 142

Boleros 257

Latte'tudes 26 Adventure Ocean 83

Fuel Nightclub/The Living Room 40

The Back Deck 44

Conference Center 239

 

When you look at this way, IMO, it almost seems like a no-brainer.

 

That's a good point.

 

I see them putting the ship with larger capacity in Port Canaveral, though, due to the more central location (driving distance) to several other states, the attraction of Orlando theme parks, and the slightly higher prices the PC ships (Monarch and Enchantment) have usually commanded over the Majesty.

 

Another good point.

[DutchCruiseFan]

I really hope Splendour remains in the fleet for a while.

Especially Caribbean routes:D

[springaussie]

If Royal was sending Freedom of the Seas to Europe I am certain they would not be booking under that name.

Maybe Independence = Freedom.

[OfTheSeasCruiser]

If Royal was sending Freedom of the Seas to Europe I am certain they would not be booking under that name.

Maybe Independence = Freedom.

 

If your speculation is correct, do you think she'd be sailing from Southampton?

[springaussie]

If your speculation is correct, do you think she'd be sailing from Southampton?

 

 

Just making a point of view that may fit somewhere in the puzzle.

[OfTheSeasCruiser]

Just making a point of view that may fit somewhere in the puzzle.

 

Gotcha. Personally, I'd love to sail Freedom in the Med!

[DutchCruiseFan]

If Royal was sending Freedom of the Seas to Europe I am certain they would not be booking under that name.

Maybe Independence = Freedom.

 

Why wouldn't they say it was Freedom?

Independence is from the same class so why would they book under that name?:confused:

[Ourusualbeach]

Why wouldn't they say it was Freedom?

Independence is from the same class so why would they book under that name?:confused:

 

Then what would we have to talk about?

[MADflyer]

The Jewel of the Seas should return to Alaska in May of 2016 if a clue left with the Monterey, CA port is an indicator. Jewel is booked through the agent for RCL on May 15, 2016 at Monterey.

 

http://monterey.org/en-us/Departments/Harbor-Marina/Cruise-Ship-and-Tall-Ship-Visits

 

She is not currently booked at Astoria Oregon, though.

 

http://portofastoria.com/Cruise%20Ship%20Log%202016.pdf

[kruzerci]

If Royal was sending Freedom of the Seas to Europe I am certain they would not be booking under that name.

Maybe Independence = Freedom.

 

 

Why wouldn't they? It's not like it would be something revolutionary. She's just an older Independence and Liberty.

[shipfriend_max]

The Jewel of the Seas should return to Alaska in May of 2016 if a clue left with the Monterey, CA port is an indicator. Jewel is booked through the agent for RCL on May 15, 2016 at Monterey.

 

http://monterey.org/en-us/Departments/Harbor-Marina/Cruise-Ship-and-Tall-Ship-Visits

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Thanks for the information! :)

That does not support my thoughts that Jewel will sail out of Harwich in 2016...

So for me, it is still a big question which ship sails from Harwich, if not Brilliance... :confused:

 

I do not see Freedom moving to Southampton? Why?? Navigator alredy switches to Southampton, and sice in 2015 Anthem is debuting from Southampton, I am pretty sure that RCI intends to deploy a Quantum Class ship from Southampton in 2016 as well...

IMHO Independence otS, listed in several European ports in 2016, is just a placeholder for Ovation... ;)

Edited February 7, 2015 by celebrity_fan

[SaintL]

I find this thread fascinating. It is clear all of you have studied itineraries and ports enough to see the patterns. Thanks for the entertainment.

 

What makes me roll my eyes are a few Florida cruisers on this thread. :rolleyes:

 

As if the world revolves around Florida. You need new ships because you are tired of the old ones. It is a shame you have so "few" choices. . . . OK go ahead and flame me--but, I just had to get that off my chest.

 

Well whatever makes you feel better, this is a forum to bost your opinions as that is what I am here for.

 

Florida is the largest cruise market, not New York, Boston, or even Baltimore and floridians expect the best from cruising we don't need to settle for anything as all cruise lines put their best.

Edited February 7, 2015 by SaintL

[SaintL]

I think more appeal then Majesty.

 

Splendor couldn't compete well with Sky.

[SaintL]

Good point, I don't follow Majesty's pricing, so I wasn't really aware of that.

 

The pricing is low because the market calls for it, 3 day cruises get filled mainly by locals, they want a good deal, what the cruise line gets out of it is a lot of onboard spending on alcohol

[flames]

So, it was suggested to start a new thread for the new year (2016 - 2017)

 

What ships will be sailing where? Speculation welcome :D

 

Thank You Karen for getting this started:cool:

 

Carol:)