AtlantaCruiser72 Posted March 11, 2015 #26 Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) What strikes me as funny is that we now consider ships the size of Splendour to be "small" ships! I remember when the Vision class were launched they were some of the largest and most luxurious oceangoing passenger vessels ever built. It's funny how things have changed in 20 years! When the Vision and Radiance class ships leave the RCCL fleet for good, so will I. I am not interested in cruising at a suburban shopping mall at sea. Splendour of the Seas 69,130 GRT 867 feet long 105 feet wide 2076 passengers 735 crew Vision of the Seas 78491 GRT 915 feet long 106 feet wide 2416 passengers 783 crew Edited March 11, 2015 by scottamiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniChunks Posted March 11, 2015 #27 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Ive sailed on Brilliance and Liberty, and enjoyed my overall experience on Brilliance much more. Going on Adventure in October and am hoping it is a good mix of my two other experiences. I cant imagine Royal getting rid of Radiance ships anytime soon. Cant speak about ships smaller than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delirious9876 Posted March 11, 2015 Author #28 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Have you ever sailed on the smaller ships?Because they're amazing and a lot of people will miss them. Yes I have several times. I know many people will miss them, but this thread is just my view :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yish Posted March 11, 2015 #29 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I wish they'd trade off a few of the Oasis and Quantum class ships instead. Agree with you!!! Love the smaller and mid-size ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADflyer Posted March 11, 2015 #30 Share Posted March 11, 2015 What strikes me as funny is that we now consider ships the size of Splendour to be "small" ships! I remember when the Vision class were launched they were some of the largest and most luxurious oceangoing passenger vessels ever built. It's funny how things have changed in 20 years! When the Vision and Radiance class ships leave the RCCL fleet for good, so will I. I am not interested in cruising at a suburban shopping mall at sea. I think it is just RCI passengers that refer to them as 'small-ships' due to the development of Oasis. I classify them as 'mid-size' as small ship designates 'luxury' for me. The soon to premier Viking Star is a small ship. Yes, it was the development of another Serenade, the Silja Serenade passenger ferry that first brought us the 'promenade' in 1990 that was eventually developed into RCI's Voyager and Freedom class ships built at the same shipyard. When I am onboard these ships it is amazing how much they have the same feel as the Scandinavian passenger ferries that were their inspiration, especially if staying in a promenade cabin. I do understand the popularity of the large ships, but sure hope RCI will keep or develop 'mid-size' ships as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted March 11, 2015 #31 Share Posted March 11, 2015 No, I hadn't hoped to cause confusion and I resent your assumption that I posted for this negative reason. You are well off the mark in your assumption about me wanting to cause confusion. I am simply glad (IMHO) that the smaller ships are going. I don't like them and it'll make more room to keep the bigger better ones (IMHO) coming. I for one, tend to agree with you. it could be that the time will come that RC spins off all the small ones (relative term) to focus on the bigger ships. it's just evolution. It is difficult to be all things to all people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grand isle joe Posted March 11, 2015 #32 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I wish they'd trade off a few of the Oasis and Quantum class ships instead. ....me too.....love the smaller ships, loathe the huge factory ships...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseapril Posted March 11, 2015 #33 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Hope they keep some mid-sized ships- always! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poncho1973 Posted March 11, 2015 #34 Share Posted March 11, 2015 My non-argument comment seems to have gotten caught up in the argument purge from this thread. SMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stateroom_Sailor Posted March 11, 2015 #35 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I for one, tend to agree with you. it could be that the time will come that RC spins off all the small ones (relative term) to focus on the bigger ships. it's just evolution. It is difficult to be all things to all people. This is true. Anytime you make a big changes, you attract new customers and alienate old ones at the same time. If RCL is being pulled in too many different directions, and all are profitable, creating a 3rd mass market cruise line may not be a bad idea either? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stateroom_Sailor Posted March 11, 2015 #36 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Good point - the new big ships have limited ports that suck. We have no interest whatsoever in Oasis or Allure for that reason. Don't know why anyone would be "happy" to see a ship go.......:rolleyes: These the the ports that Oasis and Allure visit, through next year: Ft. Lauderdale Nassau St. Thomas St. Maarten Labadee Falmouth Cozumel Barcelona, Spain Malaga, Spain Rome Naples, Italy Palma De Mallorca, Balearic Islands Marseille, France La Spezia, Italy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SECdawg Posted March 11, 2015 #37 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Sorry to see any RCCL ship leave the fleet. I would still sail on Sovereign and Monarch in a heart beat. If they still sailed out of FL that is, I know the ships are still out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delirious9876 Posted March 11, 2015 Author #38 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I for one, tend to agree with you. it could be that the time will come that RC spins off all the small ones (relative term) to focus on the bigger ships. it's just evolution. It is difficult to be all things to all people. Thank you John&LaLa :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstTeacher Posted March 11, 2015 #39 Share Posted March 11, 2015 My DH and I sailed out of Venice last fall on the Splendour, and we loved every minute on it. I personally love the "smaller" ships. We'll be sailing on the Brilliance in April. Can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missus Makkem Posted March 11, 2015 #40 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Splendour was actually sold to TUI Cruises who will in turn lease her to the Island Cruises brand of Thomson Cruises, which is one of 3 cruise lines operated by TUI AG their holding company. TUI Cruises is partially owned through joint venture by RCL, the holding company that wholly owns RCI, Celebrity and Azamara. In turn, they partially own the Splendour. TUI Cruises has 5 additional new mid-size ships on order to add to their current fleet of 3 and all will be delivered one each year over the next five years. Two of their ships are former Celebrity ships and they have one new build delivered last year. TUI AG also partially owns Thomson Cruises and Hapag-Lloyd Cruises, where RCL are not directly involved. The Splendour will replace the only current ship operated by Island Cruises, the Island Escape. The Island Escape was operated for years by RCI as the Viking Serenade between 1990 and 2002 and it is fitting that she will be replaced by a RCI ship, Splendour. Viking Serenade was owned during this time by Norwegian, Wilh. Wilhelmsen Holding ASA and leased to RCI in a similar relationship. Wilh. Wilhelmsen Holding ASA has always been one of the largest owners of Royal Caribbean.[/quote Thank you for all the information and the ship will still be sailing albeit under another name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartbda Posted March 12, 2015 #41 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Thank you John&LaLa :) Looks like it's about 35-2.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delirious9876 Posted March 12, 2015 Author #42 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Looks like it's about 35-2.:D And that's a good thing - people being honest about what they like and don't like. It's not a competition so even 1-100 would be fine :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinkBellaMom Posted March 15, 2015 #43 Share Posted March 15, 2015 I don't really see why anyone would want to celebrate the loss of a ship. I am sure there are folks who have made some wonderful memories on a particular ship and are sad to see it go. We have only cruised twice--both times on Oasis. We loved the experience, however, because we enjoy the ports too, we have booked a cruise on the Splendour in Sept. This is a bucket list trip for us and we are excited to see what a smaller ship is like. Then I'm sure we will be sad with the rest of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted March 16, 2015 #44 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I don't really see why anyone would want to celebrate the loss of a ship. I am sure there are folks who have made some wonderful memories on a particular ship and are sad to see it go. We have only cruised twice--both times on Oasis. We loved the experience, however, because we enjoy the ports too, we have booked a cruise on the Splendour in Sept. This is a bucket list trip for us and we are excited to see what a smaller ship is like. Then I'm sure we will be sad with the rest of you. Generally, the loss of an older ship means the addition of a newer one. Change is good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gc Posted March 16, 2015 #45 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Generally, the loss of an older ship means the addition of a newer one. Change is good Be Careful what you wish for.......Cruising out of Cape Liberty on Royal has doubled :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karma5 Posted March 16, 2015 #46 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I wish they'd trade off a few of the Oasis and Quantum class ships instead. I agree with you 100%……. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADflyer Posted March 16, 2015 #47 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I don't really see why anyone would want to celebrate the loss of a ship. I am sure there are folks who have made some wonderful memories on a particular ship and are sad to see it go. We have only cruised twice--both times on Oasis. We loved the experience, however, because we enjoy the ports too, we have booked a cruise on the Splendour in Sept. This is a bucket list trip for us and we are excited to see what a smaller ship is like. Then I'm sure we will be sad with the rest of you. Enjoy the Splendour. It really shows how ships for some have become a commodity like anything else. It is nice to see your sentiments about the 'bucket list' cruise. While I have sailed on every class of RCI ship and find something I like about them all and I have experienced most other cruise lines apart from RCI, when I was planning a special multi-generational family cruise, I chose a Vision class ship right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted March 18, 2015 #48 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I wonder how many folks were sad when these fine ships left their original owners? Change is inevitable. Look at it this way, Splendour can now be the queen of the Thompson fleet, vs the poor step sister she eventually became at Royal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEORGET Posted March 18, 2015 #49 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Great news for us brits, hope it is replacing the Island Escape for the same offers. Island Escape is an all inclusive package, price including flights, all grats and drinks. also pound sterling onboard. Cannot wait to see the prices. thanks for the info j Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sailor05 Posted March 18, 2015 #50 Share Posted March 18, 2015 If these new ships were smaller and held less passengers, would that not flip the supply and demand more in their favor and possibly cause prices to increase even higher than they are now? I think the smaller ships can be fun and relaxing, but for those with families the big ones have a lot more to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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