camarowesley Posted March 18, 2015 #1 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Due to the above average number of guest going overboard, and a lot of people having the opinion it's mostly related to people over indulging, do you think Carnival should cut people off when they are obviously intoxicated? I personally witnessed a man so drunk he passed out on a table on the lido deck by the bar. We watched people come by and take selfies with him, one person going so far as to lift his head (by a handful of hair). While it was funny to watch at the time, espically when he woke up and didnt have a clue where he was, we wouldn't be laughing if he had gone overboard. Curious as to what others think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcearth Posted March 18, 2015 #2 Share Posted March 18, 2015 No - that would be an overreaction. They don't even release they specific circumstances regarding why people go overboard. Don't jump to conclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klfrodo Posted March 18, 2015 #3 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Due to the above average number of guest going overboard, and a lot of people having the opinion it's mostly related to people over indulging, do you think Carnival should cut people off when they are obviously intoxicated? I personally witnessed a man so drunk he passed out on a table on the lido deck by the bar. We watched people come by and take selfies with him, one person going so far as to lift his head (by a handful of hair). While it was funny to watch at the time, espically when he woke up and didnt have a clue where he was, we wouldn't be laughing if he had gone overboard. Curious as to what others think. You're making quite an assumption that Carnival continued to sell this person the beverages. This could be the case,,, or,,,, allergic reaction to new meds, friends bought the drinks, smuggled the drinks on board, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenoNanaOz Posted March 18, 2015 #4 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I have only seen one person in all of our cruises get cut off. He didn't pass out drunk he was just mean and obnoxious to other guests. This was day 1 of a 4 day cruise and he was cut off for the rest of the cruise, while on ship. We saw him in Ensenada at a bar go up to the same group he had been messing with on board and just started swinging. Police arrived immediately and took him away in handcuffs. We heard that they released him to Carnival and he was confined to his cabin. Some people just don't get it:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruise_girl2002 Posted March 18, 2015 #5 Share Posted March 18, 2015 IMO- people need to be responsible for themselves. the crew members are not babysitters. If your traveling with others, watch out for those in your group. know your limit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.T.B. Posted March 18, 2015 #6 Share Posted March 18, 2015 IMO- people need to be responsible for themselves. the crew members are not babysitters. If your traveling with others, watch out for those in your group. know your limit Bingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camarowesley Posted March 18, 2015 Author #7 Share Posted March 18, 2015 You're making quite an assumption that Carnival continued to sell this person the beverages. This could be the case,,, or,,,, allergic reaction to new meds, friends bought the drinks, smuggled the drinks on board, etc. You're correct, it could be any of the situations you mentioned, but in this case we were by the pool all day and watched him purchase his own drinks and get more and more intoxicated. So in this case not an assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klfrodo Posted March 18, 2015 #8 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I personally witnessed a man so drunk he passed out on a table on the lido deck by the bar. We watched people come by and take selfies with him, one person going so far as to lift his head (by a handful of hair). While it was funny to watch at the time, espically when he woke up and didnt have a clue where he was, we wouldn't be laughing if he had gone overboard.. Did you just sit and enjoy the comedy show? Or did you try to get someone from the crew to help this person to the infirmary for possible medical help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asalligo Posted March 18, 2015 #9 Share Posted March 18, 2015 This is such a fine line for Carnival. Remember we are talking about their single highest revenue producer, Alcohol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfaaa Posted March 18, 2015 #10 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Cut them off when they exceed their credit limit or become a public nuisance. Otherwise, let them be. They didn't ask anyone to act as their guardian or babysitter on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out to sea! Posted March 18, 2015 #11 Share Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) This is such a fine line for Carnival. Remember we are talking about their single highest revenue producer, Alcohol. Yes, it is a money making proposition (though I would argue the casino is the single highest revenue producer) but they should not serve alcohol to anyone who appears intoxicated. Edited March 18, 2015 by Out to sea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsPhoenix91 Posted March 18, 2015 #12 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Did you just sit and enjoy the comedy show? Or did you try to get someone from the crew to help this person to the infirmary for possible medical help? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abercram Posted March 18, 2015 #13 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Yes, it is a money making proposition (though I would argue the casino is the single highest revenue producer) but they should not serve alcohol to anyone who appears intoxicated. We aren't allowed to sell to a visibly intoxicated person at my work, I don't see why that rule wouldn't apply to other places... That could get ugly though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jandjtexas Posted March 18, 2015 #14 Share Posted March 18, 2015 There is no driving, that is the biggest concern with bars on shore. If someone wants to drink, let them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfaaa Posted March 18, 2015 #15 Share Posted March 18, 2015 There are people in this world who don't want others to intrude into their own affairs or personal lives. Never assume people want your help unless they ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted March 18, 2015 #16 Share Posted March 18, 2015 We aren't allowed to sell to a visibly intoxicated person at my work, I don't see why that rule wouldn't apply to other places... That could get ugly though. Probably because it is a law where you work, but unless you get a law like that passed in the Bahamas, you'd never get it to work on the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camarowesley Posted March 18, 2015 Author #17 Share Posted March 18, 2015 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^This. Actually, we did point it out to a staff member, who by the way acted like we had lost our minds. Before the staff member did anything about it, a member of the party he was traveling with showed up and removed him from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigB0882 Posted March 18, 2015 #18 Share Posted March 18, 2015 As long as people are not a danger to themselves or others, don't cut them off. You are on a cruise so there is no driving home. I would only want someone cut off if they began getting violent or excessively loud or if they were doing things that were dangerous such as climbing on the balconies and such. If a person is clearly drunk but having a good time and enjoying themselves (and everyone else is also able to enjoy themselves) then continue letting them have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AguaMala Posted March 18, 2015 #19 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Due to the above average number of guest going overboard, and a lot of people having the opinion it's mostly related to people over indulging, do you think Carnival should cut people off when they are obviously intoxicated? I personally witnessed a man so drunk he passed out on a table on the lido deck by the bar. We watched people come by and take selfies with him, one person going so far as to lift his head (by a handful of hair). While it was funny to watch at the time, espically when he woke up and didnt have a clue where he was, we wouldn't be laughing if he had gone overboard. Curious as to what others think. I never think it's those that are showing signs of stupidity. It's those that have that good feeling with the lowered inhibitions that suddenly think they can sing like Elton John, dance like Michael Jackson, and fly like Superman. Can't protect idiots from themselves. There's balconies on all kinds of high risers, and stupid stuff is done there too. As well as bridges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissach Posted March 18, 2015 #20 Share Posted March 18, 2015 IMO- people need to be responsible for themselves. the crew members are not babysitters. If your traveling with others, watch out for those in your group. know your limit Agreed!! Natural consequences in play! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winddawn Posted March 18, 2015 #21 Share Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) Due to the above average number of guest going overboard, and a lot of people having the opinion it's mostly related to people over indulging, do you think Carnival should cut people off when they are obviously intoxicated? I personally witnessed a man so drunk he passed out on a table on the lido deck by the bar. We watched people come by and take selfies with him, one person going so far as to lift his head (by a handful of hair). While it was funny to watch at the time, espically when he woke up and didnt have a clue where he was, we wouldn't be laughing if he had gone overboard. Curious as to what others think. I think it is a fallacy to assume that Carnival over-served this person, or to assume anything else for that matter. I really don't understand why anyone else would think it is their business if that person isn't bothering others or in imminent danger. Let he or she who is without sin cast the first stone. Unfortunate situation? Maybe. My business? Not at all if he isn't bothering anyone else or in immediate danger. I might help that person to their cabin if the situation was appropriate. But far be it from me to pass judgment. I sure hope that person wasn't in a diabetic coma or something while others were taking selfies at his expense. Edited March 18, 2015 by winddawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s407o Posted March 18, 2015 #22 Share Posted March 18, 2015 [quote I sure hope that person wasn't in a diabetic coma or something while others were taking selfies at his expense. This! I am a type 1 diabetic low blood sugar or high blood sugar can cause people to appear drunk with zero alcohol in their system. Don't assume you know. Judging is not cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMileStoner Posted March 19, 2015 #23 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Yes Carnival should stop serving people who are obviously stupid drunk and no, I don't think it will have an impact on the number of people who go overboard. Probably more so with the Cheers program. Carnival already has the money and many people can't handle 15 drinks a day but some are determined to drink them all. A little drunk is one thing, but fall down drunk is dangerous for both the drunk and other passengers. Yes, cruisers can always order a bottle from room service and overserve themselves and/or continue to drink even after being cut off. Once someone is stupid drunk, they no longer have good judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMileStoner Posted March 19, 2015 #24 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Yes Carnival should stop serving people who are obviously stupid drunk and no, I don't think it will have an impact on the number of people who go overboard. Probably more so with the Cheers program. Carnival already has the money and many people can't handle 15 drinks a day but some are determined to drink them all. A little drunk is one thing, but fall down drunk is dangerous for both the drunk and other passengers. Yes, cruisers can always order a bottle from room service and overserve themselves and/or continue to drink even after being cut off. Once someone is stupid drunk, they no longer have good judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireofficer5 Posted March 19, 2015 #25 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Lousy amateur drinkers. What good is it to drink until you pass out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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