HeatherInFlorida Posted March 11, 2016 #101 Share Posted March 11, 2016 In a perfect world I would like to see Oceania have a minimum age policy of at least 12 ...no smoking ships If drunks become unruly the staff have the right to place them in the brig until they are sober But the world is not perfect & I do not own the company :D .............. And I hope not from your lips to those who do own the company as far as smoking is concerned. Believe me, no one hates it more than I do but DH smokes a pipe and the day they take his little tiny corner away will be the day we never cruise again:(:(:(. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mura Posted March 11, 2016 #102 Share Posted March 11, 2016 He is offending the other guest by allowing it, though. :rolleyes: And I misunderstood Mura's comment. :D This is how rumors get started! :o LOL. It's rather circular, isn't it? I misunderstood someone's comment, then you misunderstood mine! It happens often enough in print ... I agree totally that far more guests are unhappy when offenders get away with their behavior. Mura Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted March 11, 2016 #103 Share Posted March 11, 2016 And I hope not from your lips to those who do own the company as far as smoking is concerned. Believe me, no one hates it more than I do but DH smokes a pipe and the day they take his little tiny corner away will be the day we never cruise again:(:(:(. No worries Heather FDR stated several years ago that there will never be a non smoking ship with O Think your DH is safe ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted March 12, 2016 #104 Share Posted March 12, 2016 (edited) No worries Heather FDR stated several years ago that there will never be a non smoking ship with O Think your DH is safe ;) ...and no ban on children cruising on O either. Perhaps when his grand kids grow up - maybe then :D Of course, all this is silly talk as Oceania is now part of NCL and these types of corporate decisions are now made differently than they were done before the "merge". Edited March 12, 2016 by Paulchili Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CintiPam Posted March 12, 2016 #105 Share Posted March 12, 2016 (edited) It is my opinion that the Maitre d' had to have known what was going on and should have taken care of the situation without involving the guest in this situation. The man was loud, and he did visit several tables, including ours. :eek: And we were seated right at the entrance next to the Maitre d' station. Just like with the Noro cruises, when this actually happens to YOU, then you can be the judge. ;) This thread can go on and on about this and that, but I really am curious about the children sailing free statement. :confused: Hopefully he visited your table after he finally ate something when the main course was served. At that point his voice went down a bit and he became much more more coherent in his conversation. I forgot to mention all the foul language he sprinkled in the conversation that first hour! Of course, the point of my posting is that IMO the maitre d' failed in his role that evening as he did in the OP's case. Edited March 12, 2016 by CintiPam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spursgirl Posted March 12, 2016 #106 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I have just booked my first Oceania cruise and am looking forward to it immensely. Am sure that the incidents described by Kitty9 and Cintipam are very isolated occurrences but both incidents should have been dealt with by the Maitre D. We enjoy dining in the speciality restaurants on all of our cruises and have had some wonderful evenings particularly on Azamara. Have no doubt we will have a similar lovely experience on Oceania but would certainly complain if a foul mouthed drunk was sharing our table and ruining our dinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted March 12, 2016 #107 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Spursgirl, I agree - the odds of having a wonderful dinner in the specialties are very much in your favor. Although there have been a couple of incidents reported here recently, I can't remember when was the last time anyone had a similar complaint here. Just think of how many dinner were served in the specialties since 2004 on all of O ships :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spursgirl Posted March 12, 2016 #108 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Spursgirl,I agree - the odds of having a wonderful dinner in the specialties are very much in your favor. Although there have been a couple of incidents reported here recently, I can't remember when was the last time anyone had a similar complaint here. Just think of how many dinner were served in the specialties since 2004 on all of O ships :D Thank you Paulchili, As a glass half full girl am sure you are right and that we will be extolling the virtues of Oceania like many of you on these boards when we return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted March 12, 2016 #109 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Spursgirl,I agree - the odds of having a wonderful dinner in the specialties are very much in your favor. Although there have been a couple of incidents reported here recently, I can't remember when was the last time anyone had a similar complaint here. Just think of how many dinner were served in the specialties since 2004 on all of O ships :D I agree I have not experienced any of those problems on O before Hope it is not a sign of things to come :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jancruz Posted March 12, 2016 #110 Share Posted March 12, 2016 This is one of the reasons that I continue to say NO KIDS. Oceania should make a rule. Never happen! Jancruz1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jancruz Posted March 12, 2016 #111 Share Posted March 12, 2016 We sailed on Renassiance years ago and I remember they had a slogan no kids no smoking no kidding And thats the reason they went bankrupt.. Jancruz1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jancruz Posted March 12, 2016 #112 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I read this with interest, as I'm considering taking an Oceania cruise.As a parent of a toddler and preschooler, my options in the cruise world are fairly limited unless I want to fit a "square peg into a round hole" (like taking a 2 year old on Oceania.) May I vent for just a moment, and decry the lack of "nicer" cruise lines that are also family friendly? Yes, we've travelled on Disney, and will do so again in just a few months, but we have chosen Disney only because they are really able to accommodate children, not because we actually care a lot for their product. I think there is a niche market for more upscale cruises that can still accommodate little ones with a nursery, in room babysitting, appropriate family dining venues (and adults only ones as well). I just don't understand why folks who cruise with children only have choices of, essentially, Disney or RCCL if they want EVERYONE to enjoy the cruise (including mom and dad having a little time away from kids), or, traveling on upscale lines who really aren't equipped to accommodate little ones, and frustrating others and probably themselves in the process. Try the Haven on NCL..we took our four year old Great Grandaughter and it was perfect we were on NCL and she loved it!! and so did we.. Jancruz1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted March 12, 2016 #113 Share Posted March 12, 2016 And thats the reason they went bankrupt..Jancruz1 You got to be kidding. If you are not then you have a very narrow minded view of those times including 9/11 a few days before. Many other reasons and it had nothing to do with kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitty9 Posted March 12, 2016 Author #114 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Believe me, no one would have wanted to approach this family. Let's just say they are hard drinking, table flipping, reality show-types who would not take kindly to being admonished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted March 12, 2016 #115 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Believe me, no one would have wanted to approach this family. Let's just say they are hard drinking, table flipping, reality show-types who would not take kindly to being admonished. Not the kind of people we normally see on Oceania. Are "The Times a Changin' ? :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelglobetrotter Posted March 12, 2016 #116 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Well, happily we have never had such problems in any restaurant on the 5 O ships we've sailed on, and I hope we never do. I know I can't control what the guests do, and while I can complain to the maitre'd, I can't control his actions either, but I can control my own actions. After speaking up, I would leave, explaining why, and dine somewhere else. Life's too short to spend it simmering for a few hours about the bad behavior of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wristband Posted March 12, 2016 #117 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I am confused. Was this a birthday party for the 2 year old? Was it a balloon party for a hapless "adult?" Did the table break out an obnoxious sing song to serenade each other? The "adults" sound juvenile and infantile and out place in a lovely setting as Jacques. Aside from the disruptive and rude behavior egged on by indifference, would it have made sense for you to lean over and hiss "get that rotten kid under control asap or we will boot it hesto presto down the hall to Reception!" You have the patience of Job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpfund Posted March 13, 2016 #118 Share Posted March 13, 2016 And thats the reason they went bankrupt.. Jancruz1 They refused to pay commissions to travel agents, which also hastened their fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mura Posted March 13, 2016 #119 Share Posted March 13, 2016 There were many reasons but for US it as that they were due to meet with the banks on 9/12 to refinance ... and obviously that didn't happen! They also were in a pattern of totally changing itineraries and times of cruises ... for example, we booked our first Ren cruise in Oct '99 -- a 14 day cruise, Lisbon to Barcelona. Before we left on that cruise we had booked our second, Athens to Istanbul in February 2000. By the time we left on our cruise, the itineraries were 5 days in duration, not 10-14. They DID give us 3 hotel days in the embarkation and debarkation ports which made it an 11 day trip. (And we did love the time in the cities.) Then by May 2001 we were back to 14 day cruises. I remember complaints on the Renaissance message board (for some reason it disappeared soon thereafter) from people who'd planned a honeymoon around a cruise which now had disappeared at the last minute because of the changes from 14 days cruises to 5 day cruises. So I would say there were lots of reasons for Ren's demise, but I don't think it was because of "no children, no smoking, no kidding". Sorry, Jan ... just my perspective. (I remember people asking how much we'd paid and we quickly learned not to answer because it seemed like no couple was paying the same as any other couple.) Mura Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitty9 Posted March 13, 2016 Author #120 Share Posted March 13, 2016 I am confused. Was this a birthday party for the 2 year old? Was it a balloon party for a hapless "adult?" Did the table break out an obnoxious sing song to serenade each other? The "adults" sound juvenile and infantile and out place in a lovely setting as Jacques. Aside from the disruptive and rude behavior egged on by indifference, would it have made sense for you to lean over and hiss "get that rotten kid under control asap or we will boot it hesto presto down the hall to Reception!" You have the patience of Job! It was an anniversary party for one of the four couples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchestrapal Posted March 13, 2016 #121 Share Posted March 13, 2016 And thats the reason they went bankrupt..Jancruz1 They refused to pay commissions to travel agents, which also hastened their fall. Sorry Jan I think your wrong on this one. If only Oceania was that way now. The limited smoking is tolerable but poorly behaved children under foot and making noise wherever they are is far from tolerable. Sorry to disagree !:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted March 13, 2016 #122 Share Posted March 13, 2016 gosh from all the talk on kids you would think Oceania was rampant with toddlers running about the ship :eek: There have been some reports of small children onboard over the years but very few very young children & most others are well behaved pre teens or teens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitob Posted March 13, 2016 #123 Share Posted March 13, 2016 (edited) It's the unruly and uncontrollable toddlers in the specialties that have become offensive. If they are at the pool we can move. A reasonable age limit is fair to everyone. Those with children under that limit can decide ahead of time if the still want to cruise on Oceania with a toddler. Edited March 13, 2016 by bitob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mura Posted March 13, 2016 #124 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Then maybe it wasn't a happy anniversary for that couple ... unless the toddler in question is theirs! Mura Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S2000ap1 Posted March 13, 2016 #125 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Jacques , do others not find it slightly noisy in any case as a result of the hard flooring, whereas the other restaurants have carpet ? Last year we had a table of people who liked their own voices which which was a bit annoying but just about tolerable. The kids , I think we would have walked out , making our feelings known , so what would Oceana think about upsetting us , as customers ! Oceana should have dealt with this, and from the onset of decorations stopped things dead . How many covers are there ? So maybe 6 covers against the annoyance of maybe 40 or so others. We have walked out of restaurants for exactly this reason before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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