clearwaters Posted April 4, 2016 #101 Share Posted April 4, 2016 (edited) They are not letting people in to park yet. We are sitting in a scary parking lot waiting. They said boarding would start at 9 pm. They said that at the parking lot. Nassau from 5-11 pm, have they lost their minds? That I don't understand is why do the ports visited have to be those two? Why not HMC and GT instead. If time is a problem, why not HMC OR GT instead? :confused: Haven't Carnival reps read these threads? The most disliked port on Cruise Critic threads for this cruise area is Nassau. Edited April 4, 2016 by clearwaters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM1984 Posted April 4, 2016 #102 Share Posted April 4, 2016 (edited) I'm sorry, Mimi, that I guessed wrong and called you "(him?)".:o I didn't think it was crazy of you, I believed what you said and took it as you really thought the OP meant "proposition" and that you thought it might be a cruise ship-related term with which you weren't familiar, so I was explaining that the OP meant "propulsion". It was a simple misunderstanding of a simple typo. There was no problem until the other poster decided to wrongly call someone (me?) out on the "spelling remark". I agree with you, I hope all goes quickly and smoothly with the debarkation / embarkation process for all involved. As they say, no worries my friend! I sure hope our 4/15 on the Pride does not have a problem. Only thing we can think of to do to kill time is hit the Horseshoe Casino, andthat could go either way, right? Edited April 4, 2016 by CM1984 Misspeling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravenjls Posted April 4, 2016 #103 Share Posted April 4, 2016 As they say, no worries my friend! I sure hope our 4/15 on the Pride does not have a problem. Only thing we can think of to do to kill time is hit the Horseshoe Casino, andthat could go either way, right? in about 6 months CM you can hit 3 Casinos on the way up to the Pride...MGM National Harbor (in my back yard) will open around Oct 31st, MD Live at Arundel Mills and then on to the Horseshoe....although weve been to Ravens Stadium a million times we have never stopped in Horseshoe. I hear its nice though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted April 4, 2016 #104 Share Posted April 4, 2016 That I don't understand is why do the ports visited have to be those two? Why not HMC and GT instead. If time is a problem, why not HMC ORGT instead? :confused: Haven't Carnival reps read these threads? The most disliked port on Cruise Critic threads for this cruise area is Nassau. Can't talk to HMC, but GT is because it the farthest distance. So, with less than optimal propulsion the problem with GT is magnified because you would lose time going there and coming back. There could also be issues with trying to hit ports on different days (already ships scheduled etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwaters Posted April 4, 2016 #105 Share Posted April 4, 2016 (edited) http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-78/centery:38/zoom:8 Passing Tangier Island, doing 15.4 knots. She's had propulsion issues for years. It even showed on the engine-monitoring screen when we did the Behind the Fun Tour in 2014 that something wasn't right (I can't remember specifically what we saw now, but it was obvious at the time, even to us laypeople). When we asked about it, the engineer gave us a non-answer and tried to distract our attention with something else. We let it go. It has been very windy all night here on the Shore, and still is. Edited: She's doing 15.7 knots now, so has been slowly picking up speed over the last couple hours. Wow. And is the Chesapeake particularly silty? Is it possible a lot of silt is getting caught up in her engines? We sailed on Pride about 10 years ago and had no problems...but that was in the Pacific. CC members mention a lot of cost cutting measures on Pride (reduced workforce in MDR, cabin service encouraged for 1 time daily, cold food, etc). You know, one of the most notorious cost cutting measures used when in a financial pinch is deferred maintenance. (Although all media sources say Carnival made 1+ BILLION in profit last year). Apparently that propulsion system has not been repaired since you were on the ship before. I read last week that the toilets went out recently. We have a cruise coming up and, frankly, I am worried. Edited April 4, 2016 by clearwaters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwaters Posted April 4, 2016 #106 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Can't talk to HMC, but GT is because it the farthest distance. So, with less than optimal propulsion the problem with GT is magnified because you would lose time going there and coming back. There could also be issues with trying to hit ports on different days (already ships scheduled etc. TY, yes, that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indytraveler83 Posted April 4, 2016 #107 Share Posted April 4, 2016 That I don't understand is why do the ports visited have to be those two? Why not HMC and GT instead. If time is a problem, why not HMC ORGT instead? :confused: Haven't Carnival reps read these threads? The most disliked port on Cruise Critic threads for this cruise area is Nassau. Carnival does a lot of dry dock work in the Bahamas. If any major parts or expertise are needed for repairs, that would be an easy place to take it, since major repair/construction facilities and workers are there already. They did the same with Fantasy not long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSammie Posted April 4, 2016 #108 Share Posted April 4, 2016 That I don't understand is why do the ports visited have to be those two? Why not HMC and GT instead. If time is a problem, why not HMC ORGT instead? :confused: Haven't Carnival reps read these threads? The most disliked port on Cruise Critic threads for this cruise area is Nassau. GT is too far down and most likely repair work will be done at Freeport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyBeef Posted April 4, 2016 #109 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Wow. And is the Chesapeake particularly silty? Is it possible a lot of silt is getting caught up in her engines? We sailed on Pride about 10 years ago and had no problems...but that was in the Pacific. CC members mention a lot of cost cutting measures on Pride (reduced workforce in MDR, cabin service encouraged for 1 time daily, cold food, etc). You know, one of the most notorious cost cutting measures used when in a financial pinch is deferred maintenance. (Although all media sources say Carnival made 1+ BILLION in profit last year). Apparently that propulsion system has not been repaired since you were on the ship before. I read last week that the toilets went out recently. We have a cruise coming up and, frankly, I am worried. Interesting theory. I suppose (from my totally ignorant point of view:o) that it's possible. I don't know, though, as far as the Bay being particularly silty or of that silt/sediment affecting the engines. The Bay looks pretty silty to the naked (or goggle-covered:p) eye -- just go underwater in it and try seeing more than a few feet in front of you and you'll know what I mean. But I don't know if it is more so than other waters that cruise ships travel through regularly. Maybe Chengkp75 or someone else who might know about this will chime in and enlighten us.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSammie Posted April 4, 2016 #110 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I know the 4/3 cruisers have had a rough day - weird thing is, I'm curious if the Hub App went live today as scheduled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVIL Posted April 4, 2016 #111 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I know the 4/3 cruisers have had a rough day - weird thing is, I'm curious if the Hub App went live today as scheduled? I was curious about this too. It doesn't appear like it did, but I could be wrong. The app still shows "Coming Soon" for the pride. Would be nice if someone would be able to confirm this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwaters Posted April 4, 2016 #112 Share Posted April 4, 2016 GT is too far down and most likely repair work will be done at Freeport. Interesting theory. I suppose (from my totally ignorant point of view:o) that it's possible. I don't know, though, as far as the Bay being particularly silty or of that silt/sediment affecting the engines. The Bay looks pretty silty to the naked (or goggle-covered:p) eye -- just go underwater in it and try seeing more than a few feet in front of you and you'll know what I mean. But I don't know if it is more so than other waters that cruise ships travel through regularly. Maybe Chengkp75 or someone else who might know about this will chime in and enlighten us.:) Thanks for the info. I didn't know about the Bahamas offering repair options. Actually, that is comforting to know. I am thinking--more like hoping- if the ship becomes completely disabled Carnival will fly us back to Baltimore. (Hopefully). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVIL Posted April 4, 2016 #113 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Thanks for the info. I didn't know about the Bahamas offering repair options. Actually, that is comforting to know. I am thinking--more like hoping- if the ship becomes completely disabled Carnival will fly us back to Baltimore. (Hopefully). I don't believe Carnival would take on a ship load of people if they weren't confident that they would be able to get the technical issue resolved. If you are on the ship, sit back, relax and enjoy! We're sailing her in the coming weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecarbine Posted April 4, 2016 #114 Share Posted April 4, 2016 (edited) I don't believe Carnival would take on a ship load of people if they weren't confident that they would be able to get the technical issue resolved. If you are on the ship, sit back, relax and enjoy! We're sailing her in the coming weeks. Never mind; my rum may have typed a comment that could be construed as in poor taste. I have edited it out. Edited April 4, 2016 by ecarbine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Je Souhaite Posted April 4, 2016 #115 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Although the compensation is quite generous, I would take the refund and skip the cruise. Nothing's worse than sailing with a bunch of unhappy cruisers going to a destination they didn't want on a ship that's hardly moving in the Atlantic at this time of year where it will be colder than expected. ymmv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laumicmah Posted April 4, 2016 #116 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Looks like she's almost to VA. They must have left in the wee hours of the AM. I know I checked at around 12:30am and they were still at the dock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatloafsfan Posted April 4, 2016 #117 Share Posted April 4, 2016 CC members mention a lot of cost cutting measures on Pride (reduced workforce in MDR, cabin service encouraged for 1 time daily, cold food, etc). You know, one of the most notorious cost cutting measures used when in a financial pinch is deferred maintenance. (Although all media sources say Carnival made 1+ BILLION in profit last year). Apparently that propulsion system has not been repaired since you were on the ship before. I read last week that the toilets went out recently. We have a cruise coming up and, frankly, I am worried. I was on the Pride for 21 nights in January / February of this year and didn't experience any of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almendrada Posted April 4, 2016 #118 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Wow. And is the Chesapeake particularly silty? Is it possible a lot of silt is getting caught up in her engines? We sailed on Pride about 10 years ago and had no problems...but that was in the Pacific. CC members mention a lot of cost cutting measures on Pride (reduced workforce in MDR, cabin service encouraged for 1 time daily, cold food, etc). You know, one of the most notorious cost cutting measures used when in a financial pinch is deferred maintenance. (Although all media sources say Carnival made 1+ BILLION in profit last year). Apparently that propulsion system has not been repaired since you were on the ship before. I read last week that the toilets went out recently. We have a cruise coming up and, frankly, I am worried. I can't speak to the mechanical issues, but I sailed on the Pride less than a month ago, and we had no problems whatsoever with service or maintenance. MDR staff was brilliant, and our steward was all too willing to give us twice daily service. Also never experienced cold food. Also, everything (in our cabin at least) functioned perfectly. I hope that puts your mind at ease (at least a little) for your upcoming cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted April 4, 2016 #119 Share Posted April 4, 2016 The 5pm to 11pm call at Nassau is...not great (nicest way to put it). Given the proximity of HMC and the double sea day buffer on either end I'd think they could have kept Freeport (maybe shortened it a bit) and also made Half Moon Cay and 86'd Nassau altogether. Although the odds of getting into Nassau are much greater than HMC; that is always kind of a gamble with weather. If they had missed HMC you''d have a cruise with 5 full sea days and just 1 port of call. So I understand; making the best of the situation. Perhaps they could have switched to have a call at Port Canaveral instead of Nassau also; but without the ability to have a full day that's a big waste too. hope those aboard like relaxing sea days; I think the are great, but I understand the disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusin Karen Posted April 4, 2016 #120 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I was on the Pride for 21 nights in January / February of this year and didn't experience any of that. I can't speak to the mechanical issues, but I sailed on the Pride less than a month ago, and we had no problems whatsoever with service or maintenance. MDR staff was brilliant, and our steward was all too willing to give us twice daily service. Also never experienced cold food. Also, everything (in our cabin at least) functioned perfectly. I hope that puts your mind at ease (at least a little) for your upcoming cruise. We were on the 2 week sailing right before this cruise and we had NO PROBLEMS. We also did a B2B last May. Sure, I notice some cutbacks, but I notice them everywhere. The kind of BIG ONE I noticed this cruise is that if you order a drink, like a Bloody Mary or LI Iced Tea, they come in much smaller glasses. Kind of tall and skinny! And I noticed last year they did not have sugar on the tables anymore at the buffet! :eek: But I have absolutely NO COMPLAINTS. We asked our room steward to service our room twice a day and it was no problem. Matter of fact, we moved from one deck to another a few days into the cruise and THAT room steward had no problem with it either. Doesn't CCL own Margaritaville, the shops at GT and of course, they own HMC so they are losing bucks not stopping there. All in all, I think they really stepped up to the plate for these pax. Will look forward to hearing their experience next week as I'm sure we will! :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergidget Posted April 4, 2016 #121 Share Posted April 4, 2016 board and sail? How was the crew? U know their day had to have been hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laumicmah Posted April 4, 2016 #122 Share Posted April 4, 2016 She's coming up on the VA bay bridge tunnel. And only going 12.8 K. They should just go directly to Freeport and get her fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusin Karen Posted April 4, 2016 #123 Share Posted April 4, 2016 board and sail? How was the crew? U know their day had to have been hell. I thought the same thing. They must be ragged by now. And they were ALL such a GREAT CREW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdrmeister Posted April 4, 2016 #124 Share Posted April 4, 2016 She's coming up on the VA bay bridge tunnel. And only going 12.8 K. They should just go directly to Freeport and get her fixed. Does anyone have confirmation that she's definitely getting repairs in the Bahamas? There was speculation of getting them last night in Baltimore, but based on her current speed it doesn't seem like anything was fixed. Was hoping that someone onboard would have more info... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted April 4, 2016 #125 Share Posted April 4, 2016 Interesting. I didn't know that.:) But Pride was doing 10 knots well within the Bay, well past the BB&T. Do you know if the whale speed limit zone extends within the Bay? That could explain it. The speed limit for the whales was just outside the bay and only for this time of the year (migration north). The speed of Pride seemed to have followed what we experienced on Grandeur - slowed a bit at the tunnel and then sped up after inside the bay (to about 15 knots). It looks like the Pride is about to clear the low speed limit area (she's doing 10 knots) off VA Beach. Other than being about 9 hrs late (left at 2+ AM) I'd don't see any speed issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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