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16 minutes ago, Tarponjeff said:

.  Other people say they could not book it per the cruise line due to the "Jones Act" Seems the cruise line calls the PSVA the Jones Act.  Anyone know if this itinerary is good to go??  

They are probably talking about a combination of a later itinerary and it is PVSA. 

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This is ok as you are starting in Australia. It is only a problem sailing from one  American ports to another American port without going to a far foreign port.

 

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Both legs are legal under the PVSA (one starts outside the US and ends in the US, and the second starts in the US and ends outside the US), and together they form a voyage that not only begins outside the US but also ends outside the US, so the PVSA has absolutely no jurisdiction over this itinerary.

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On 1/12/2019 at 4:01 PM, Tarponjeff said:

I know this is an old thread but looking for answers.  Us Citizen on a ship (cruise) from SYD, Australia to Hawaii (3 stops in HI), then a second cruise (same ship) from Hawaii (3 stops again) then continue with a stop in Victoria, then on to Vancouver and disembark.  Fly back to US from Vancouver.  Two TA's told me that there is no problem on this itinerary and the PSVA.  Other people say they could not book it per the cruise line due to the "Jones Act" Seems the cruise line calls the PSVA the Jones Act.  Anyone know if this itinerary is good to go??  Thanks. 

 

Basically the Jones Act applies to cargo and the PVSA applies to passengers.

 

On 1/12/2019 at 4:05 PM, Host Clarea said:

PVSA does not apply at all.  Your cruise starts and ends outside the US.

 

Very true, except you should say "the voyage" (which consists of two cruises).  I mention this, not because you are wrong (your answer is correct) but rather because people keep looking at each cruise as being separate, and it is is the combination of multiple cruises, ON THE SAME SHIP, that must be looked at. 

 

On 1/13/2019 at 2:59 AM, chengkp75 said:

Both legs are legal under the PVSA (one starts outside the US and ends in the US, and the second starts in the US and ends outside the US), and together they form a voyage that not only begins outside the US but also ends outside the US, so the PVSA has absolutely no jurisdiction over this itinerary.

 

As Chengkp75 correctly points out, neither cruise, nor the combination of the two, falls within the jurisdiction of the PVSA.

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